Akita

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by garabandal, Oct 1, 2022.

  1. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    Understandable to have doubts over any apparition especially the way the vatican has handled them over the years . enough to make your head spin but one cant doubt the last message from akita just before covid in my opinion that completed convinced me Akita was true, Heaven warned us of the great evil of covid for sure.
     
  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Well said
     
  3. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Agree.
     
  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I personally consider Akita a continuation of Fatima; in a way, what motivated Maria's apparation in 1917 was the communist revolution in Russia, while in 1973 it was the fact that the only power capable of defeating communism had legalized abortion, in addition to the apostasy in the Church, which is a link of denunciation between the two apparitions;IMO.
     
  5. samuelj

    samuelj New Member

    Akita, as Cardinal Ratzinger would say was 'essentially the same as Fatima'. Bishop Ito did give his approval , perhaps this approval didn't just involve Sr. Sasagawa but included her spiritual director as well. +Ito would he have to disclose everything? And would this 'new discovery' make this 'essentially the same apparition as Fatima' vision discounted in toto?

    Don't proponents of Medjugorje say the same thing, that his 40+ year messaging is the same and/or continuation of Fatima as well? Garabandal adherents too?
     
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  6. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Thank you, Dave, for quoting the message of the current Bishop. It's reassuring. Nevertheless, I still have lingering doubts that the approval may have been obtained by deception. Perhaps the Bishop was aware of the prophecy quoted in the book. If so, I suppose that he could have told Sr. Sasagawa not to speak about it. If he had given her that instruction, it would explain why she never mentioned it. But if that were the case, wouldn't it have been an act of defiance for the priest to have recorded it in his book? How, then, could a disobedient priest be considered to have died in an aura of sanctity? The whole thing doesn't add up. A proper translation of the priest's book is necessary.

    As far as I know, everything about an apparition is examined before Church approval is granted. Any prophecy would be an important part of that examination especially one concerning a Judas Pope. I have a vague memory of reading that demons can inflict an illness or symptoms of an illness so they can appear to cure it later. I don't know whether a malignant tumour would be in that category of illness. I don't think it's beyond a demon's ability to make a statue appear to weep human tears. Appearance of the stigmata also isn't failsafe proof of a heavenly act. I'm sorry to be such a Debbie Downer but the bottom line for me is whether or not the Bishop was fully aware of the alleged prophecy.

    For all I know, Fr. Elias Mary could be a very holy man but to say that I was less than impressed by him would be an understatement. Perhaps that's down to some fault of mine that I'm recognising in or projecting on to Fr. Elias Mary.
     
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  7. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    The thing is, if it all had been examined as it should have been, the controversy would/should have ended immediately. If Bishop Ito knew all when he gave his approval, there really should be no controversy. But we'll never likely be told now what was what at that time. Add to that, everyone's "baloney" detector has been set to maximum since the release of the Third Secret of Fatima.

    Our Lady of All Nations is also confusing for the same reasons.....Approved then not approved but devotion is fine...it just goes on and on.

    God love Sister Sasagawa. She herself as far as I know has been obedient; her suffering must be great......
     
  8. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I appreciate that. It's just that for me, everything hinges on whether the Bishop was deceived. Satan can be very cunning. I'm sure he knows the whereabouts of every laboratory in the world, every gain of function programme and the character and plans/schemes of every person involved.

    We hear lots about the harm that can come from freemasons inside the Church. I think that Masons outside the Church can cause as much or more harm by sowing doubt in the minds of Catholics leading then to harbour suspicions against lawful authority. It's about 50 years since Sr. Sasagawa received the original messages. I dou't believe that God would want Catholics to spend 50 years or more speculating on whether each new Pope is another Judas or the AntiChrist. Talk of an AC Pope sounds very Protestant to me and contrary to Our Lady's track record of encouraging obedience to our religious superiors.

    I must stress here that I believe that Sr. Sasagawa was a very devout and holy nun. Even the most devout can be deceived.
     
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  9. Agnes McAllister

    Agnes McAllister Archangels

    My thoughts exactly
     
  10. Clare A

    Clare A Archangels

    I’m confused. If the ‘last pope’ is going to betray Jesus, and people are looking at the current one as perhaps fitting the bill, what of the future ‘holy pope’ who unites with the great monarch to save Christendom?

    If the hidden prophecy is true then Francis can’t be the Judas pope, surely?

    One can do a bit of smoke and mirrors by saying that the prophecy refers to the last pope of a particular era, not the last and final pope of all time. But I’m still scratching my head as one who accepted Akita as genuine.
     
  11. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    Akita is not the product of a "false prophet." The "false prophets" are wicked. God describes how those people think and why they think the way they do in the following passage from the Book of Wisdom.

    Book of Wisdom Chapter 2


    The vain reasonings of the wicked: their persecuting the just, especially the Son of God.

    1 For they [the wicked] have said, reasoning with themselves, but not right: The time of our life is short and tedious, and in the end of a man there is no remedy, and no man hath been known to have returned from hell: 2 For we are born of nothing, and after this we shall be as if we had not been: for the breath in our nostrils is smoke: and speech a spark to move our heart, 3 Which being put out, our body shall be ashes, and our spirit shall be poured abroad as soft air, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, which is driven away by the beams of the sun, and overpowered with the heat thereof: 4 And our name in time shall be forgotten, and no man shall have any remembrance of our works. 5 For our time is as the passing of a shadow, and there is no going back of our end: for it is fast sealed, and no man returneth.

    6 Come therefore, and let us [the wicked] enjoy the good things that are present, and let us speedily use the creatures as in youth. 7 Let us fill ourselves with costly wine, and ointments: and let not the flower of the time pass by us. 8 Let us crown ourselves with roses, before they be withered: let no meadow escape our riot [lust]. 9 Let none of us go without his part in luxury [lust]: let us everywhere leave tokens of joy [pleasure]: for this is our portion, and this our lot. 10 Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged.

    11 But let our strength be the law of justice [right is might]: for that which is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. 12 Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. 13 He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. 14 He is become a censurer of our thoughts. 15 He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, and his ways are very different.

    16 We [the wicked] are esteemed by him as triflers, and he [the just] abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. 17 Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. 18 For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. 19 Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. 20 Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words.

    21 These things they [the wicked] thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them. 22 And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls. 23 For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him. 24 But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world: 25 And they follow him that are of his side.​
     
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  12. summary of the messages of Our Lady of Akita
    Our Lady’s message to Sister Agnes
    The approved messages of Our Blessed Mother to Sr Agnes Sasagawa in Akita, Japan from June 12, 1973 until Sept. 15, 1981.

    Bishop John Ito approved the supernatural nature of this event and the messages on April 22, 1984

    It began, in 1973 with 101 instances of a statue of Mary bleeding and weeping followed by messages of from Guardian Angel and Our Lady to Sr Sasagawa

    In December 1975, her Guardian Angel: said, "Do not be surprised to see the Blessed Virgin weeping. She weeps because she wishes the conversion of the greatest number. She desires that souls be consecrated to Jesus.”

    On September 28, 1981, her Guardian Angel explained the meaning of the weeping statue: "There is a meaning to the figure 101 (the number of times the statue wept). This signifies that sin came into the world by a woman and it is also by a woman that salvation came into the world. The zero between the two signifies the Eternal God who is from all eternity until eternity. The first one represents Eve, and the last, the Virgin Mary."

    The messages
    On August 3, 1973 Mary revealed to Sr Sasagawa: "My daughter, my novice, do you love the Lord? If you love the Lord, listen to what I have to say to you...Many men in this world afflict the Lord. I desire souls to console Him to soften the anger of the Heavenly Father. I wish, with my Son, for souls who will repair by their suffering and their poverty for the sinners and ingrates."

    "In order that the world might know His anger, the Heavenly Father is preparing to inflict a great chastisement on all mankind. With my Son I have intervened so many times to appease the wrath of the Father. I have prevented the coming of calamities by offering Him the sufferings of the Son on the Cross, His Precious Blood, and beloved souls who console Him forming a cohort of victim souls. Prayer, penance and courageous sacrifices can soften the Father's anger…Offer in reparation (whatever God may send) for sins. Let each one endeavor, according to capacity and position, to offer themselves entirely to the Lord."


    October 13, 1973
    "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests."

    "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    "The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them"

    "Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary. I alone am able still to save you from the calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in me will be saved."


    October 6, 2019
    “Cover in ashes, and please pray the Penitential Rosary every day.”

    An anthology of tape recorded talks by Father Yasuda was compiled and published in 2003. The book was published in Japanese and has not been as yet, translated into English. Father Yasuda was the religious superior that Sister Sasagawa went to for questions. Father Yasuda's testimony to Bishop Ito was instrumental in his giving approval to the apparitions. Father Yasuda died at the age of 97 in November 2013 in what some say was the odor of sanctity. An excerpt of the book has recently been reported...it came in a talk where Father Yasuda was talking about the sign left by the Son, he said:" Judas and the last pope are to sell Jesus to the enemy, therefore the era of antichrist pope will soon come. So no matter how much we worry, we cannot prevent this and there's nothing we can do about it. Therefore we must properly defend our faith." Photo of Sister Sasagawa in a rest home in Japan
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  13. MetAn

    MetAn Angels

    So sad about this is Sister Agnes is even staying outside of catholic.convent. Blessed are those who taking care of her now . Not to mention there is plenty of cancel priests who need to be taken care also. The church is rotten from the top to the bottom.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Regardless of the truth of Akita, and I still tend to favour it myself (not that this means much), we have had enough of warnings throughout the centuries. The state of the world has turned out just as predicted. We should not be surprised that the predicted consequences follow.
     
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  15. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Hi Whatever,
    Apparently the second book of Fr Yasuda was comprised of his homilies and talks, and remains untranslated from Japanese to English.
    We know the messages Our Lady of Akita gave the world were conveyed, however maybe Sr Agnes asked additional questions and received messages that were not part of the message for the world, and she may have spoken about them to her confessor Fr Yasuda.
    Additionally we do not know who the last pope will be! There may be 10 more popes after Francis or 510 more popes. Or possibly zero.

    The approved apparition of La Salette also says similar things.
     
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  16. josephite

    josephite Powers

    I was unaware that the seer Melanie of La Salette suffered from the stigmata for many years in her later life, found this out recently. It was from a credible source but I can't remember who.
    The apparitions were and are approved but we Catholics were told that Melanie lost her marbles in later life and could not be trusted.
    However in 1999 (I believe) her secret which was given to Vatican in 1879 was found accidently in the Vatican Archives. Posted below


    Secret of Our Lady of La Salette to Melanie (1879 Version).


    Melanie, what I am about to tell you will not always be a secret. You may make it public in 1858.

    The Priests, the ministers of my Son, the priests by their wicked lives, by their irreverence and their impiety in the celebration of the holy mysteries, by their love of money, their love of honors and pleasures, the priests have become cesspools of impurity. Yes, the priests are asking for vengeance, and vengeance is hanging over their heads. Woe to the priests and those dedicated to God who by their infidelity and their wicked lives are crucifying My Son again! The sins of those consecrated to God cry out towards heaven and call for vengeance, and now vengeance is at their door, for there is no one left to beg mercy and forgiveness for the people. There are no generous souls, there is no one left worthy of offering a spotless sacrifice to the Eternal on behalf of the world."

    "God will strike in an unprecedented way."

    "Woe to the inhabitants of the earth! God will exhaust his wrath upon them, and no one will be able to escape so many afflictions altogether."

    "The chiefs, the leaders of the people of God have neglected prayer and penance, and the devil has bedimmed their intelligence. They have become wandering stars which the old devil will drag along with his tail to make them perish. God will allow the old serpent to cause divisions among those who reign, in every society and every family. Physical and moral agonies will be suffered. God will abandon mankind to itself and will send punishments which will follow one after the other for more than thirty-five years."

    "The society of men is on the eve of the most terrible scourges and the gravest events. Mankind must expect to be ruled with an iron rod and to drink from the chalice of wrath from God."

    "May the vicar of my Son, Pope Pius IX never leave Rome again after 1859; may he, however, be steadfast and noble, may he fight with his weapons of faith and love. I will be at his side. May he be on his guard against Napoleon; he is two faced, and when he wishes to make himself Pope as well as Emperor, soon God will draw back from him. He is the eagle who, always wanting to rise higher, will fall on the sword he wished to use to force his people to be raised up."

    "Italy will be punished for her ambition in wanting to shake off the yoke of the Lord of Lords. And so she will be left to fight a war; blood will flow on all sides. Churches will be locked up or desecrated. Priests and religious orders will be hunted down, and made to die a cruel death. Several will abandon the Faith and a great number of priests and members of religious orders will break away from the true religion; among these people there will even be bishops."

    "May the Pope guard against the performers of miracles. For the time has come when the most astonishing wonders will take place in the earth and in the air."

    In the year 1864, Lucifer together with a large number of demons will be unloosed from hell; they will put an end to faith little by little, even in those dedicated to God. They will blind them in such a way, that unless they are blessed with a special grace, these people will take on the spirit of these angels in hell; several religious institutes will lose all faith and lose many souls. "

    "Evil books will be abundant on earth, and the spirit of darkness will spread everywhere, a universal slackening in all that concerns the service of God. They will have great power over Nature; there will be churches built to serve these spirits. People will be transported (spiritually) from one place to another by these evil spirits, even priests, for they will not have been guided by the good spirit of the gospel which is the spirit of humility, charity and zeal for the glory of God. On occasion, the dead and the righteous will be brought back to life."


    continued below
     
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  17. josephite

    josephite Powers

    (That is to say that these dead will take on the form of righteous souls which have lived on earth, in order to lead men further astray; these so-called resurrected dead, who will be nothing but the devil in this form, will preach another Gospel contrary to that of the true Jesus Christ, denying the existence of Heaven; that is to say, the souls of the damned. All these souls will appear as if united with their bodies.)

    "In places there will be extraordinary wonders, because true faith has died and a false light shines on the world. Woe to the Princes of the Church whose only occupation will be to heap wealth upon more wealth, and to preserve their authority and proud domination!"

    "The vicar of my Son will have much to suffer, as, for a time, the Church will be the victim of great prosecution: this will be a time of darkness. The Church will suffer a terrible crisis.

    "As the holy Faith of God is forgotten, every individual will wish to be his own guide and superior to his fellow man. Civil and ecclesiastical authority will be abolished. All order and justice will be trampled underfoot. Nothing will be seen but murder, hatred, jealousy, falsehood and discord without love for the mother country or the family. The Holy Father will suffer greatly. I will be by His side to the end in order to receive his sacrifice. The wicked will make several attempts on his life, but they cannot harm Him. But neither he nor his successor will live to see the triumph of the Church of God.

    "All the civil governments will have one and the same plan, which will be to abolish and do away with every religious principle, to make way for materialism, atheism, spiritualism and vices of all kinds.

    "In the year 1865, there will be desecration of holy places. In convents, the flower of the Church will decompose and the devil will make himself like the King of all hearts. May those in charge of religious communities be on guard against the people they must receive, for the devil will resort to all his evil tricks to induce sinners into religious orders, for disorder and the love of carnal pleasures will be spread all over the earth.

    "France, Italy, Spain and England will be at war. Blood will flow in the streets. Frenchmen will fight Frenchmen, Italian will fight Italian. A general war will follow which will be appalling. For a time, God will cease to remember France and Italy because the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been forgotten. The wicked will make use of all their evil ways. Men will kill each other, massacre each other even in their homes.

    "At the first blow of His thundering sword, the mountains and all of Nature will tremble in terror, for the disorders and crimes of men have pierced the vault of the heavens. Paris will burn and Marselles will be engulfed. People will believe that all is lost. Nothing will be seen but murder, nothing will be heard but the clash of arms and blasphemy.

    "The righteous will suffer greatly. Their prayers, their penance and their tears will rise up to Heaven, and all of God's people will beg for forgiveness and mercy and will plead for my help and intercession. And then Jesus Christ, in an act of His justice and His great mercy will command His angels to have all His enemies put to death. Suddenly, the persecutors of the Church of Jesus Christ and all those given over to sin will perish and the earth will be desert-like. And then peace will be made, and man will be reconciled with God. Jesus Christ will be served, worshiped and glorified. Charity will flourish everywhere. The new kings will be the right arm of the Holy Church, which will be strong, humble, pious in its poor but fervent imitations of Jesus Christ. The Gospel will be preached everywhere and mankind will make great progress in its Faith, for their will be unity among the workers of Jesus Christ and man will live in fear of God.

    "This peace among men will be short-lived. Twenty-five years of plentiful harvest will make them forget that the sins of men are the cause of all the troubles on this earth.

    "A forerunner of the Antichrist, with his troops gathered from several nations will fight against the true Christ, the only Savior of the world. He will shed much blood and will want to annihilate the worship of God to make himself be looked upon as a God."

    "The earth will be struck by calamities of all kinds (in addition to plague and famine which will be widespread). There will be a series of wars until the last war, which will then be fought by the ten kings of the Antichrist, all of whom will have one and the same plan and will be the only rulers of the world. Before this comes to pass, there will be a kind of false peace in the world. People will think of nothing but amusement. The wicked will give themselves over to all kinds of sin. But the children of the Holy Church, the children of the Faith, my true followers, they will grow in their love for God and in all the virtues most precious to Me. Blessed are the souls humbly guided by the Holy Spirit! I will fight on their side until they reach a fullness of years."

    "Nature is asking for vengeance because of man, and she trembles with dread at what must happen to the earth stained with crime. Tremble, earth, and you who proclaim yourselves as serving Jesus Christ and who, on the inside only adore yourselves, tremble, for God will hand you over to His enemy, because the holy places are in a state of corruption. Many convents are no longer houses of God, but the grazing ground of Asmodeus and his like. It will be during this time that the Antichrist will be born of a Hebrew nun, a false virgin who will communicate with the old serpent, the master of impurity, his father will be a Bishop. At birth he will spew out blasphemy; he will have teeth, in a word, he will be the devil incarnate. He will scream horribly, he will perform wonders, he will feed on nothing but impurity. He will have brothers who, although not devils incarnate like him, will be children of evil. At the age of twelve they will draw attention to themselves by the gallant victories they have won; soon they will lead armies aided by the legions of hell.

    "The seasons will be altered, the earth will produce nothing but bad fruit, the stars will lose their regular motion, the moon will reflect only a faint reddish glow. Water and fire will give the earth's globe convulsions and terrible earthquakes which will swallow up mountains, cities, etc....

    "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.

    "The demons of the air together with the Antichrist will perform great wonders on earth and in the atmosphere, and men will become more and more perverted. God will take care of his faithful servants and men of good will. The Gospel will be preached everywhere and people of all nations will get to know the truth.

    "I make an appeal to the earth. I call on the true disciples of the living God who reigns in Heaven; I call on My children, the true faithful, those who have given themselves to Me so that I may lead them to My Divine Son, those whom I carry in My arms, so to speak, those who have lived according to My spirit. Finally I call on the Apostles of the last Days, the faithful disciples of Jesus Christ who have lived in scorn for the world and for themselves, in poverty and humility, in scorn and in silence, in prayer and mortification, in chastity and in union with God, in suffering and unknown to the world. It is time they came out and filled the world with light. Go and reveals yourselves as My cherished children. I am on your side and within you, provided your faith is the light which shines upon you in these unhappy days. May your zeal make you hungry for the glory and the honor of Jesus Christ. Fight children of light, you, the few who can see. For now is the time of all times, the end of all ends.

    "The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay. But now Enoch and Elijah will come, filled with the spirit of God. They will preach with the might of God, and men of goodwill will believe in God, and many souls will be comforted. They will make great strides forward through the virtue of the Holy Spirit, and will condemn the diabolic errors of the Antichrist. Woe to the inhabitants of the earth! There will be bloody wars and famines, plagues and infectious diseases. It will rain with a fearful hail of animals. There will be thunderstorms which will shake cities, earthquakes which will swallow up countries. Voices will be heard in the air. Men will beat their heads against walls, call for death, and on the other hand death will be their torment. Blood will flow on all sides. Who will be the victor if God does not shorten the duration of the test? At the blood, the tears and the prayers of the righteous, God will relent. Enoch and Elijah will be put to death. Pagan Rome will disappear. The fire of heaven will fall and consume three cities. All the universe will be struck with terror and many will let themselves be led astray because they have not worshiped the true Christ who lives among them. It is time; the sun is darkening; only faith will survive.

    "Now is the time, the abyss is opening. Here is the king of kings of darkness, here is the Beast with his subjects, calling himself the Savior of the world. He will rise proudly in the air to go to Heaven. He will be smothered by the breath of the Archangel Saint Michael. He will fall, and the earth, which will have been in a continual series of evolutions for three days, will open up its fiery bowels; and he will be plunged for eternity with all his followers into the everlasting chasms of hell. And then water and fire will purge the earth and consume all the work's of men's pride and all will be renewed. God will be served and glorified."
     
  18. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I accepted it too although I confess to never having liked that particular statue.

    Well, if the prophecy about the Pope wasn't meant for the world it casts further doubt on Fr. Yasuda having died in the odour of sanctity - a term often used to suggest that the deceased person is already a saint. And who dares question the veracity of the words of a saint? Also, if the alleged prophecy was received after the Bishop's approval, then it is an unapproved private revelation which is no more reliable than any other of the possibly thousands of unapproved private revelations in Church history.

    The rest of the messages of Akita - the ones Sr. Sasagawa relayed to the Bishop and the world - are similar to previous messages from Heaven and are fully compliant with accepted Church teaching. People make a big deal about the "Bishop against Bishop" part of the prophecy. Even a cursory glance at Church history will show that we have had Bishops against Bishops since the earliest days of the Church. Didn't someone say not long ago that the only time the Apostles acted in unison was when they all fled from the Garden of Gethsemane?

    Yes, there could be hundreds of future Popes. Are we Catholics now to question every future Pope in case he's the one Akita warned against? That doesn't sound to me like it came from the Blessed Virgin.
     
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  19. Agnes McAllister

    Agnes McAllister Archangels

    I believe in Akita. This last thing totally makes me think of Malachi Martin and what he said about the 3rd secret. God's timing is perfect.
     
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  20. I disagree with every word whatever has written on this thread. We have been told in the catechism that before Christ's return, there will be a great apostasy. We are living through it, no matter how much people do not want to actually accept it.
     

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