Civil war in the Catholic Church, as Team Francis alienates the entire African continent.

You said, "If such a person is wrong (and doubtful anyone save for the Bishops as a group are qualified to make such a determination) then he would be leading others to separate themselves from the chair of Peter."

You left out the option that "if he is correct" he would be leading others toward holiness and away from an unlawful "usurper" of the papacy who professes heresy. That is why I said that your original statement was over-simplified. You left out the better half of the equation.

Your statement discussed only the negative and said it would be "the highest stake gamble" to separate from a perceived "usurper." Wrong.

The highest stake for a Catholic is to lose the state of grace by committing a mortal sin. But if the person separating from a "usurper" does so in "good faith" then he would not be committing a mortal sin. Therefore, the decision to separate oneself from a perceived heretic would not be "the highest stake gamble" as you suggested. In fact, the higher stake gamble is to continue to follow a heretic as your religious leader.

 

Well, I guess I do not consider myself qualified to declare the Pope a "userper" or to encourage others to separate themselves from Francis and all the Bishops and Cardinals that I most respect who consider him a valid Pope...Burke, Sarah, Schneider, Walter Brandmüller, Strickland, (posthumously) Pope Benedict.

 

I think my problem in a specific Church building were such an abomination was performed would be that it would be deconsecrated, cursed an inhabitation of demons and well on the road to hell with all involved who gave their consent. Rather like a mini Sodom and Gomorrah, As St Paul informs us in Scripture good not must be yoked with evil.

However Catholic Prophecy informs us that the Evil Ape or False Church would flourish beside the True Church so its just a matter of find a Parish or small group of good Catholics who have not one foot already in hell. A bit like a return to the Catacombs. I tend to prefer the Traditionalists as there is zero chance of them giving way to such abominations. A Novus Ordo one who stood firm might do too.

However Papa Frankie seems to be on a one man Crusade to wipe out Trads so it looks like truly like going back to the being underground. I don't mind this as I spent most of my laugh being chased by anti Catholic policemen so it'll be nothing new.
I do believe the False Church will be assisted by the Secular powers all over the world.

 

If these, 'blessings' happen in my parish then I too will go traditional which is fine. I worry though about my grandchildren who all attend my parish also. They would be unlikely to go to the traditional. One can see how these hellish blessings will impact the outlook of young catholics. This is really satanic.

 

I think Saint Athanasius at the time of the Arian Heresy said that whilst the Arians had all the big buildings and Churches Catholics still had the true Faith handed on from the Apostles. It would have been the same during the Protestant Rebellion in England. I think only one Bishop stayed with the Church in the whole country. If the Faith is really important to the parents it will be important to pass it on to their children. If it is not so important they will be happy to go along with the False Church which Papa Frankie is constructing.

St John Fisher, the only Catholic Bishop who stayed faithful said that he was old and so it was easier for him to give his life. I must admit I have a real yen to suffer for the Faith. But I am older and it is much easier for me to say this. But yes I would count it a great honour and joy to go to prison or be put to death for the Faith. What a joy!

 

What is going on at the moment is a winnowing, a separation , a purification between those who truly hold the Apostolic Tradition passed on from the Fathers and those who follow the False Church of Satan led by people like Papa Frankie.

It reminds me of the parable of Jesus on the Pearl of Great Price.

Matthew 13:45-46

The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price
45 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, 46 who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it.

 

But in this case, those who would be in schism would be those who adhere to gay blessings, not those who refuse this type of sacrilege...

Related to that, in a recent interview with Bishop Athanasius Schneider conducted by Centro Dom Bosco in Brazil, someone asked if it makes some sense to maintain some silence regarding Fiducia Supplicans to avoid worse damage to the Church. The good bishop replied that this is nonsense because we are already in the really bad things, no one has the right to remain silent in the face of this sacrilege.

Here's his answer to that question in Portuguese, I don't know if it's possible to activate automatic translation subtitles:

 

'Fiducia Supplicans could be a turning point in the crisis in the Church. But this requires a courageous recognition that the whole conciliar project must be rejected. If not now, when? Or will conservatives once more acquiesce rather than admit their approach has been mistaken'?

Food for thought from The WM Review

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This is the point I am at - the present incumbents in the Vatican are post conciliar products. If someone like Fernandez can get to one of the highest positions in the church with his record then the smoke of satan is blowing freely where it wills.

We need a mature and disciplined look at the Vatican II project that has so badly backfired.

 

A short French Documentary on what's going on in the Church.

It would make you weep.

 

I, in good conscience, have to say the following in response to the questions posed to Fr. James Martin and his responses:

What is the church saying to you, but also to LGBTQ+ Catholics?

The church is saying to me as a priest: You can do it now — with certain limitations, as long as it doesn't seem like a marriage — which I couldn't do yesterday.

And what it is saying to same-sex couples is that: We value you, and we want God to bless you as individuals and we hear you.

It's a really big step. It's kind of hard to overstate, because I think, for so long, people have thought that the church was just anti-same-sex everything. And so it's a big surprise and a nice early Christmas gift for LGBTQ Catholics.

Given the conversations you've had, or couples who have come to you and you couldn't help them at that time in the way they wanted … what do you think this will mean to them?

I've been asked many times to do blessings and I've said that I can't. They understand, but they're sad, right? It's like being turned away.

But now they've told me today that they feel much more welcome and much more excited about it.

It's a sign for them of Pope Francis's regard for them and that he's hearing them. It's a sign that they're being listened to.

The church still, though, as you know, says marriage is between a man and a woman. This is not a marriage ceremony. These are blessings of same-sex couples. So does that still concern you?

No, because I think that we have to focus on the positive step forward. I don't think that many LGBTQ Catholics expected that.

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In the above pink, Fr. Martin has stated nothing against the document, which allows for the blessing of a homosexual couple as individuals. But, in his interview with CBS, he crosses the line by saying:

"The irony is, as a Catholic priest, you can bless all sorts of things. You can bless dogs, you can bless sheds, you can bless schools, you can bless factories. But up until now, you couldn't bless same-sex couples, which really struck people as really unjust.
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Once you shift from blessing individuals to blessing couples, the line is crossed. In his video of blessing two homosexual men, Fr. Martin allows them to hold hands, accenting the fact that they are presenting themselves as a couple to be blessed as a couple. Here in lies the true difficulty which African Bishops see, and all of us agree on. Technically, Fiducia Supplicans focuses on the couple as individuals, but the Father James Martin(s) of the world, and the world itself, will look at this as ultimately endorsing the blessing of homosexual couples as couples.

Lord have Mercy! It is so sad that one must split hairs to shed light on this diabolical scheme!
Thus the document becomes a weapon of the devil and the endorsement of homosexual activity. So, so, so destructive of the Faith. It's consequence is diabolical, which the African bishops realize. The Vatican refuses to modify the document and therefore faithful Catholics must condemn it due to its consequences.

 

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He continued to say:
"And now you can. So it's really wonderful to be able to do it publicly and not have to worry about skulking around in the shadows."

Is it fair to conclude that he has been worrying & "skulking around in the shadows" for quite some time now?
Is it fair to ask why the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. interviewed this man instead of one of Canada's Bishops? Why would the Bishops allow this man to speak for them? At least, that's how it appears to me.

Lord have mercy indeed....

 

Hang on a few years and see whether we get a Pope Francis 11 or Pius X111. Switching to an Eastern Rite church would probably tale that long anyway. We shouldn't be subjected to any freakshows at Mass because Cardinal Fernandez says the "blessings" are not to take place at an altar. (I know there's a difference between shouldn't and won't).

Beastiality is legal in Spain. I wonder what would happen there if someone arrived with his pet and asked the priest to bless their irregular union. And what about a convert from Islam with four wives he's obliged to support. What if he arrives with all four women and says he can't choose between them? Can that irregular union be blessed? Would the Bishops be happy to see photos of that kind of inclusivity in the NYT?
The mind boggles.

 

What a strong sense of irony

 

I love Father Charles Murr, I could listen to him all day. I wish he were my Parish Priest, or Bishop.

 

He's a true gem.

 

Given that not all Latin Rite priests will bless same sex or cohabiting couples, surely one would just need to find a local parish with an orthodox pastor. I must say I have a fondness for the Syro-Malabar Catholics. Not many of them in the UK though. I live in a rural parish so shopping around is not easy.

 

Yes my own city , Belfast has a majority Catholic population and many , many Parishes. I am quite sure there will be quite a few Parishes who will not allow this Abomination, though it might mean travelling a bit more. But I would not fancy travelling round like a gypsy when the Bishops changes priests from Parish to Parish. I love having a permanent home. Which is why I will settle for the Trads.

The only problem being Papa Frankie will crush them all if he lives long enough.

But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Thank God for the Rosary, I said two today , one in Church and one while walking in the Forest. Heaven. My next big step will be three, but I might change to a different rosary, for one, Maybe he chaplet of the angels.

 

Plus he has a very good sense of humour as Fulton Sheen had.

 

Yes, joining a traditional Catholic parish was one of the things Taylor Marshal recommended in his video about lifting one's spiritual game in 2024. According to the papal decrees Quo Primum (Pius V) and Summorum Pontificum (Benedict XVI), nobody has the authority to suppress the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the form passed down from ancient times (Traditional Latin Mass). Attacks may continue, even to the point of persecution. But nobody has the authority to persecute faithful Catholics, these unjust things are only being allowed by God in order to purify us.

This is why we are now seeing people splitting into two camps, as prophesied by Blessed Sr. Anna K. Emmerich ( quoting off the cuff): "A concession was demanded from the clergy which could not be granted. I saw many priests weeping over it, others happily going along with it. It was as if people were spilling into two camps."

Similar to the 'vaccination'-campaign, the faithful remnant will be severely persecuted, but in the end, Almighty God will vindicate us once again. The ones who now happily happily approve of 'innovations', either because they are evil, or convinced by the propaganda, or careles, or because they follow the false authorities now in power, will come to regret their decision which seems such an easy choice right now.