Civil war in the Catholic Church, as Team Francis alienates the entire African continent.

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  1. sparrow

    sparrow Exitus ~ Reditus

    Michael Matt video

    In this episode of The Remnant Underground, Michael Matt exposes what is really going on with Fiducia Supplicans – the Vatican Declaration approving blessings for same-sex couples. This has nothing to do with pastoral sensitivity, and everything to do with politics, Agenda 2030, the SDGs of the United Nations, and the EU-ACO Treaty between the European Union and seventy-nine poorer countries.

    So why are the African Catholic Bishops resisting Pope Francis to his face? Because forty-seven African countries will be most negatively impacted by the EU-ACP Treaty, which will force African nations to embrace the militantly Christophobic European Union position on human sexuality. With the Vatican signaling change to the Church’s teaching on sexual morality, African bishops will be cut off at the knees.

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/in...can-wokeism-supports-diabolical-eu-acp-treaty
     
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  2. Carmelite

    Carmelite Archangels

    What damage has been done. Come Lord Jeaua
     
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  3. sparrow

    sparrow Exitus ~ Reditus

    :cry:
     
  4. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    These words just tore at my heart. :cry:
     
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  5. sparrow

    sparrow Exitus ~ Reditus

    Everything is in such an uproar in the world, the Church and in our own lives (almost my whole immediate family).
    We have multiple things going on that seem to be hopeless. Yes, I trust in God but these are seemingly impossible situations. The spiritual warfare is insane. A good friend gave me Fr. Rippergers book, Deliverance Prayers. Pray that it helps us!
     
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  6. Byron

    Byron Powers

     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I would be very , very , very careful indeed to interpret events in Our Mother the Catholic Church as a kinda Us or Them Political event.

    This is not some Kinda football game.

    Them and us.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    At the Moment I am inclined to think as far as the USA is concerned they will both go into the most tremendous Civil War, coupled with huge physical events like San Francisco wiped out in an Earthquake ..and the entire East Coast gone in a Tsuanami caused by an asteroid strike mid Atantic.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    But there is no doubt as far as Catholic Prophecy is concerned the USA will simply, shortly, simply, cease to exist.

    At least in her present form, as a Federal State. As a Republic.

    But as an internal Confederation of various states of the former USA and big and small, I believe she will continue.

    This is no bad thing as Washington is just as rotten and rotten as anything ever could be...
     
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  10. EricH

    EricH Principalities

    Where do you get this from? I have never seen any clear prophecy about the us from an authentic apparition
     
  11. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    So true! It seems everywhere people are putting hope in the "next elections", whether it be a country or "a conclave." It's been on my mind for quite awhile that there may not be any more "elections" in the foreseeable future...it's like they're all hanging on for dear life, waiting for something........for some reason, it's not bothering me all that much ~
     
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  12. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    What's coming down the line makes elections and politics irrelevant.

    In order to survive requires intense and constant personal prayer & conversion and many rosaries each day. The time of grace is preparation time.
     
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  13. Carmelite

    Carmelite Archangels

    Well I better get ready. Drowning is a quick ticket to Heaven. Which I have admit looks more tempting daily:)
     
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  14. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    So much confusion already around this blessing of couples. In my parish on Sunday, the homily was on this topic and it was very concerning to me where father was going with this. He really embraced it and made points even calling out some parishioners not by name but as to what some had said to him regarding the blessing of same sex couples. He told that blessing them is blessing the sin to which father said that if he didn't bless sinners then no one would ever get blessed. I understood the point he was making but all of his homily was about compassion and love ie love the sinner but he never ever condoned the sin. He never went that extra step of saying hate the sin. He never pushed into the sin at all. It really irritates me when people say we need to love and accept all like Jesus did and yet leave out the rest of Jesus's message. Every time he forgave what did he say next? Go and sin no more. Father even went on to tell us all very sternly that being gay is not a choice and we need to love and embrace them, welcome them into our church etc. You may be right father you may be wrong about it being a choice or not. That is not for me to decide, but it is a choice to act on the sin and that, if we truly love others, is what needs to be focused on too. Embrace these people with love because it truly is a huge cross to bear, but how can we say we love them when we condone their sins. We all make the choice to sin. Why do we sin? Because in temporary moments of sinning we find the idea of it fun. But what may be fun for a short period of time destroys our relationship with God. I feel awful for the cross gay individuals have to carry but out of love we must be welcoming of them as our spiritual family but also must talk to them and try to help them understand that there is grave punishment to face if they give into their actions as there is for all of us in sin. Where are the brave priests to finish the message? Where are the brave priests to stand up on the alter and speak messages of love and welcoming but also go onto to give great warning for the actions of sins. So many priests are only always about love love love and never the consequences of sin. This homily has been so heavy on my heart. I don't know what to do about it. Do I speak to Father? I don't think this speaking will help because over the past 4 or 5 months, it has become very clear to me that the priest I had so much love and respect for is just another woke liberal and not real Catholic anymore. He has become something else, he has become modern and political. There is no doubt in my mind he will be openly blessing all gay couples that come to him. That whole homily I just couldn't help but think how much confusion there would be from any gay person who heard it. Family members present will be telling their gay friends and family members to come see father for your welcoming blessing. Father even went on to say that this blessing is not the blessing of their marriage in a Catholic sense because that marriage is for the purpose of procreation and that is not what their unions are but the are unions nonetheless and they do raise children and they can be blessed like any sinner. At the end of mass he even joked about anyone who is without sin please stand up for the blessing. The church laughed but I found it to be disgusting. What has happened to reverence in our churches for our Lord. I would never leave our Catholic faith but I tell you what, orthodoxy is becoming so much more beautiful and attractive each day over the feel good, woke bs that has infiltrated our once beautiful faith and churches.
     
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  15. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Don't get me started on this! It's the little crack they are trying to create to be welcoming. It started in the Episcopal church, created a big schism there. Then went to the United Methodist Church, created a big schism there. My cousin is now a part of the 'new Global Methodist Church. So now they are after the die hard Catholics. This is to create the 'new one world religion'. So it was only a question of time, the divide and conquer. So how to confront this. Well you could go to another church with a more conservative Priest. That is creating the schism the new world nuts are trying to accomplish. Or show up at church with your "comfort pet" your cat or dog and demand to be blessed as a couple. Well you are not sinning with your comfort pet but are living together. Ha! That would water down the whole blessing concept they are trying to elevate. In the US you can demand that your comfort pet can go anywhere with you. I'm surprised I haven't seen them in churches yet, but it's coming. Our normal world is becoming abnormal. As of now churches are exempt from allowing in comfort pets but get a group together and start screaming about it and that will cave. I just have to look at the absurdity of all of this. But Our Blessed Mother said Don't Leave the church. God will fix this. We must be cheerful martyrs in these times.
     
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  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I appreciate the last few lines of your post, Katfalls.
    Don’t leave the Church. God will fix this.
     
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  17. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I will never leave the church. All the attacks against the Catholic church, how could anyone wonder anymore it isn't the true church. Only the true church would be attacked so much from the demons of hell.
     
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  18. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I personally have never subscribed to the secular culture of using the term gay to describe homosexuals or homosexual behaviour.

    That is the term they self identify as. If a priest uses the term gay from the pulpit he has already been indoctrinated by the world. The correct term for a priest would be same sex attracted persons.

    But we live in a world that is brainwashed by contemporary culture with very powerful propaganda.

    The moment Pope Francis used the term gay many years ago I knew we were fighting a losing battle in the Vatican.
     
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  19. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    That correct term you pointed out gave me chills because to the contrary of what you said, the pedos want to be referred to as minor attracted persons.
     
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