Why the Miracle of Garabandal is not till Apr. 2024 at earliest...

It's time for a History class. If the argument is not of Spanish Heritage, St. Hermenegild could fit that bill. His mother is not from Spain, and the Visigoths were originally from Eastern Europe. They are only invaders of Spain....

 

Hermenegild seems unlikely based on fact that the next viable date would be 2034. Seems like we are closer than that. But that's just my sense.

 

Again , in Sept. of 1963 Conchita said : " “The Miracle will be on the feastday of a young martyr of the Eucharist, a boy who carried Communion to persecuted Christians. "
Does that sound like he qualifies ?

 

She once looked at the date of the martyr in the haliological calendar, which seems to exclude Saint Tarcisius, who is not celebrated in April. However, the date of the miracle could reveal the true date of the martyrdom of Saint Tarcisius, while also including Saint Hermenegild.

 

Conchita also said that the martyr of the Eucharist had a strange name, which certainly does not match Tarcisius, which was a very common name in Catholic Spain, but this requirement fits well with São Hermenegild.

 

Totally agree. The only Saint that her description sounds like is Tarcisius. So either his feast date would need to be moved to April before the miracle or its some other little known martyr that we aren't even aware of and isn't on calendars

 

But Conchita looked at the saint's date on the calendar at the time of the apparitions, and so far there is no record that Saint Tarcisius was celebrated between April 8th and 16th at the time of the apparitions.

 

That's actually not how it played out. I've heard that before as well but I think that is not the correct account. Glenn may be able to chime in on the facts

 

I have seen his feast day celebrated on 2 days August 15, and April 26 , but thats all.

 

Oh wow!

 

Could you tell us Glenn when was St Tarcisius’ feast day celebrated on April 26?

 

During my family's first visit to Rome about 20 years ago we were present for a Holy Sacrifice of the Mass celebrated on one of the altars in the catacombs of Saint Callixtus. The memory is clear for me since I held my son, Danny, for most of the Holy Mass, and then had to climb the 70 stone steps back to ground level!

Weary arms!

 

I read on the website of the Portuguese apostolate of Garanbadal a testimony by Father Morelos' niece, Guadalupe Morelos de Kania, dated 06/10/2018, in which she says, among other things, that she remotely remembers, but is not sure that Conchita would have told to Father Morelos that he saw the name of the martyr on a date different from the date of the miracle; Supposedly she would have heard it over 47 years ago, when she was just 11 years old. If this information is true, it helps explain a lot.

https://www.apostoladodegarabandal.com/padre-morelos-e-o-grande-milagre/

 

Here it is translated:

IMPORTANT TESTIMONY OF FATHER GUSTAVO MORELOS' NIECE ABOUT CONCHITA AND THE DATE OF THE MIRACLE
Conchita revealed to Father Gustavo Morelos that the Miracle would happen in April!

Before we tell you a little more about this surprising revelation, let's contextualize about who Father Morelos was and his relationship with Garabandal.


Father Gustavo Morelos

Father Gustavo Morelos was a Mexican priest, who died on March 7, 2015 at the age of 87. He had news of what was happening in San Sebastián de Garabandal already in 1965, with the appearances in his final stretch. He managed to spend about three months in Garabandal that same year studying the phenomena, interviewing the girls, their parents and brothers and countless witnesses. He lived the surprising recovery of a nephew who had already been "abandoned" by the doctors - and whose cure he always attributed to Our Lady of Garabandal. Since then, until his death, he worked for the dissemination of the messages of Garabandal. As a faithful son of the Church that he was, before speaking of Garabandal in a diocese, he asked for the And it does so, first of all, for the very content of the messages, which it considers "timely, useful and salutary admonishments to obtain eternal salvation".

Returning to the theme of this article.

This is how Father Morelos' niece, Guadalupe Morelos de Kania, testifies on 10/06/2018, information she received directly from her uncle:

P. Morelos: "Is it in the first semester or in the second?"

Conchita: "In the first one."

P. Morelos: "Is it a month of Jesus?"

Conchita: "No, Father."

P. Morelos: "Is it Maria's month?

Conchita: "No, Father."

P. Morelos: "So it's April, tell me if it will be in April?"

Conchita: "Yes, Father!"


FULL TESTIMONY OF FATHER MORELOS' NIECE:

I will tell you all the complete story of the dialogue between Father Morelos and Conchita.

My uncle went more than once to visit the seers, right after the end of the apparitions and before the time of the denials. On one of these visits my uncle, Padre Morelos, was at Conchita's house, more precisely in Conchita's kitchen and the two were alone. My uncle was very persistent, a bit capricious, but a man of great faith. And this is how Conchita said:

"As a priest, I command you to tell me the date of the miracle."

Conchita: "Father, I can't, Our Lady forbade me."

P. Morelos: "But I'm a priest and you have to tell me."

Conchita: "Father, I can't, I can only say 8 days before."

P. Morelos: "What if I try to guess?"

Conchita: "I still can't tell you."

P. Morelos (a little upset) "Oh no Conchita! Our Lady never told you that if someone guessed, not to say yes."

Conchita: "But it's the same, Father"

P. Morelos: "It is not the same thing, I am a priest, I know theology and I can assure you for the tranquility of your conscience that it is not a sin, that you would not lack anything that Our Lady sent you."

Conchita: "Okay, Father, tell me a date."

P. Morelos: "You have to help me a little, just say yes or no, Our Lady did not forbid that."

This is where Father Morelos' questions began...

P. Morelos: "Is it during the first 3 months of the year?"

Conchita: "No, Father"

P. Morelos: "Is it in the first semester or in the second?"

Conchita: "In the first"

P. Morelos: "Is it a month of Jesus?"

Conchita: "No, Father."

P. Morelos: "Is it Maria's a month?"

Conchita: "No, Father."

P. Morelos: "So it's April, tell me if it will be in April?"

Conchita: "Yes, Father!"

P. Morelos: Now the day and the year are missing...

Conchita smiled.

P. Morelos: "Is it between the 7th and 17th?"

Conchita: "Yes! Father"

P. Morelos: "Does Thursday fall on Holy Thursday?"

Conchita: "I don't know, priest, if this Thursday will be a Holy Thursday."

P. Morelos: "Because you speak of a Martyr of the Eucharist, it could not be Jesus"

Conchita: "The Holy Saint is not Jesus."

P. Morelos: "Have you ever seen this saint on the calendar?"

Conchita. "Yes, I saw it, but I don't think it's Spanish because it has a very strange name that I had never heard before.

P. Morelos: "Let's go to the year"

And my uncle started saying year after year...

Conchita: "Father, it's better to do it every 10 years because there's still a long way to go to the date, let's see if I'm not ashamed to announce it on the radio and on television because I'll be very old!

Note: At that time it was not thought that there would also be the Internet through which the news arrives quickly anywhere.

P. Morelos: "Is it after the year 2000?"

Conchita: "Yes, Father".

P. Morelos: "Don't even tell me anything else, doctors don't give me more than 70 years of life ..."

Note: Here is the proof that the Great Miracle could never have happened in the 80s and 90s as many people announced because they did not know in depth the history of Garabandal. For example, crossing the information of the prophecy of the Popes revealed to Conchita, events could only happen after the fourth Pope of the prophecy, which we all know now that it

P's niece Morelos also says the following:

I'm not sure what I'm going to say next, because I was an 11-year-old girl, and it's been 47 years and everything I said before was very well recorded in my memory, but what I'm going to say next, I still have some doubts.

I think she also said that she had seen the name of the Holy Martyr of the Eucharist on a different date than the Miracle, but I don't remember exactly. I've attended many lectures about Garabandal and I've heard a lot, I don't know if I heard from someone else whom Conchita told or God gave me to understand a little more so that Faith would work on me. God only knows...

Guadalupe Morelos (Niet of Father Morelos).

End


Final comment:

Conchita says to this day that we should NOT speculate on dates and that we should focus on living the Messages and being in the Grace of God, and very close to the Eucharist (watching the Holy Mass and visiting the Blessed Sacrament often) and also very close to our Blessed Mother. Wanting to guess the dates can be a great distraction to forget the essentials: LIVE THE MESSAGES!

Translated into Portuguese by the Apostolate of Garabandal in Portuguese, January 2022

 

For some reason I've always thought that the saint was St. Stanislaus even though he doesn't really fit the description.

 

Maria saraco seemed to think this as well. Many others though think st Hermenegild. I don't think either are right. Her description clearly is tarcisius. Which would require his date to move. But who knows. I guess we're all guessing until the day arrives

 

This is something that I have posted about before, without knowing about what you posted here.....Namely that it seems to be only speculation that Conchita learned the name of the boy Eucharistic
saint by looking on the calendar, at the day of the miracle Our Lady told her. It is entirely possible she learned the name directly from Our Lady. She tells the priest she saw the name on the calendar, we do not know if she saw the name of the saint on the same day of the month that Our Lady told Conchita the miracle would fall on, as we might expect. None of the saints listed on the old calendar in April 8-16 fit the description of the saint. Tarcisius fits it exactly. Hundreds of times saints have had thier feast days moved. It would be fitting that Tarcisius would have his feast moved just in time for the great Miracle. We will have all experienced the Warning before the miracle, so we will know it is coming.

All this attempted date calculating based on bits of info is contrary to building faith. We must live the messages Our Lady gives us. We lose nothing if we do so, and yet have no idea when the Warning might come. On the other hand even if we were able to figure out the date, and didn't live the messages, we would have gained nothing. And in fact would be more culpable for our lack of response to Our Lady's requests.

Live the messages. It is a mystery to be lived, not a puzzle to be figured out.

 

It's December. There is still time for the pope to visit moscow. Maybe he wont maybe he will.
Im not guessing dates but i really hope 2024 is still the year. Even if it's not then thats ok. We need penance and change in the world. It breaks my heart. I hope that the pope may still visit moscow by march ir april hangs by a thread. Maybe he will. I really hope the warning will happen soon. But i dont know the date and im not trying to guess the date. I feel like the only way my family will convert is if the warning happens because they wont listen but ill contuine to pray for them (remeber st monica prayed 18 years for her son st augustine to convert before he finally converted). God bless and merry Christmas.