Rest In Peace Sister Dianna Ortiz

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  1. TinNM

    TinNM Guest

    Despite all, I am endeared to Sister Dianna Ortiz, Ursuline Sister.. . she worked in Guatemala, teaching and in 1989, she was abducted, this was very bad. She passed on back in February, Maryknoll also had an article on her I wanted to post but this is enough for now. She really had a rough time, torture.

    Some articles on her:

    Dianna Ortiz, nun who told of brutal abduction by Guatemalan military, dies at 62 - The Washington Post

    Dianna Ortiz - Wikipedia

    Robert F. Kennedy Center for Human Rights:
    Dianna Ortiz - Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights (rfkhumanrights.org)

    How tragic to have lost her.

    I am a big fan of St. Father Stanley Rother who has been beatified was killed in Guatemala, our pastor made a big deal out about his feast day, last July 28th. Stanley Rother - Wikipedia You'll see that for Father Stan, though he was buried in his beloved Oklahoma, his heart was preserved in Guatemala.... I've seen a picture of it, it is in a glass jar type of container. His rectory was being robbed, he tried to stop them and he was killed. Okarche, Oklahoma was his home and out on the outskirts of town when you enter is a sign proclaiming how proud they are of him. I can't find that picture of that sign. He was rejected by one seminary but he was so dedicated if not the best in grades, he found another one to attend.

    Wikipedia article on Father Stanley: Stanley Rother - Wikipedia

    Both of these people have either a biography to read on them or, as in the case, of Sister Dianna, she wrote a book about her terrible experiences.

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  3. TinNM

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    You know, I have to say.... and I was more new then when I posted this about 2 weeks ago,

    In the 1980s, military repression happened a lot in Central America, please hear me out.

    The Four Nuns were killed in El Salvador 1980 murders of U.S. missionaries in El Salvador - Wikipedia , ( also see mentioned in "Catholic Movies", "Romero" about the good Archbishop Oscar Romero of El Salvador starring Raul Julia, a Paulist pictures movie Watch Romero Collector's Edition (1989) - Free Movies | Tubi (tubitv.com) In a nutshell, yes, a good movie but I was thinking about how a first time viewer might see it and one just sees angry soldiers running around without knowing why? But my criticism may not be valid to be honest) Free on youtube too:



    But back to Sister Dianna Ortiz, see, she had to endure real brutality,

    She got raped and you know what? If one reads about her, she got an abortion over that rape, rape torture I'd say. I actually sent this news to Lila Rose's (famous pro-life activist) charitable organization Live Action and asked them what they thought. Live Action | Pro-Life Advocacy for Dignity and Human Rights I never got quite an answer but apparently, it did get me on some pro-life mailing lists, charities requesting donations but that's another story. This is covered in many news stories including her wikipedia biography:

    She saw a doctor in Guatemala and another after she returned to the United States; both later submitted testimony that she showed evidence of torture, including extensive cigarette burns.[6] Ortiz suffered greatly from her experience; like other torture victims, she lost many of her memories from the period before she went to Guatemala. After returning to the U.S., she had to be reintroduced to her family. It took her a long time to rebuild her trust in people. In addition, she later recounted, she learned she was pregnant from the rapes. Overwhelmed by the treatment she had received, she got an abortion. This added to her survivor's guilt and emotional burden.[4]
    Dianna Ortiz - Wikipedia

    And I was overwhelmed with this, I mean, she must have gone through absolute hell by being raped and made pregnant, it almost seems like gang rape.

    So, her book which at sometime, I'd like to read:
    Amazon.com: The Blindfold's Eyes: My Journey from Torture to Truth eBook: Ortiz, Dianna: Kindle Store

    So, her story just blew me away... especially since I'm from her general area where she was brought up when the numerous articles say she was from the Southwest. Also, I think she was part of a sizable family but became a Nun rather young and I'm talking about her discovering her calling right out of high school it seems to me.

    And the Robert F. Kennedy human rights website mentions her as posted already in post one. Dianna Ortiz - Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights (rfkhumanrights.org)

    Anyway, I was a newby when I posted this and so I didn't want to make a big deal of this... but any feedback is welcomed. Sometimes, if a new member in a forum zooms in on a particular story, they might look like they have an agenda which some forums frown on... so I just wanted to be careful. I am very pro-life but obviously, Sister Ortiz was really pushed into an area of extremes.

    She went through hell, it's a bit hard to find fault with her...but that's just me, a male. The thing is, these criminals severely mistreated her and probably got no punishment whatsover. Sister Dianna's story sure is something, she went to Guatemala as a teacher, that is all she was and I believe this happened to her in '88-'89. She really suffered, nobody should ever be treated like this.

    More: Sister Dianna Ortiz—US Nun Who Survived Guatemala Torture and Became Human Rights Champion—Dies at 62 | Common Dreams News (I think Common Dreams is a leftist type of website, just saying, it does not mean an endorsement of their content, be forewarned. )
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    Despite all, Sister Dianna Ortiz seemed like a very brave woman...

    As for Saint Father Stanley Rother, yes, there is a biographical book on him as well that I'd probably need to read, I really admire him and I do pray for his intercession.
    The Shepherd Who Didn't Run: Blessed Stanley Rother, Martyr from Oklahoma, Revised - Kindle edition by Scaperlanda, Maria Ruiz. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

    I know, some of my posts are long but I really wondered about this. The tragedies of St. Stanley Rother in Guatemala and that of Sister Ortiz also in Guatemala I thought kind of tied together. I'd also say, I'm pretty conservative but what was happening in Central America in the late '70s, 1980s has bothered me because I've been down there. Guatemala is a different country than El Salvador per the movie but all of those countries are close together, small countries and it seems they faced the same kinds of problems.

    You know, famed journalist and I am sure, Catholic (She's from New Orleans where we have great numbers), Cokie Roberts ran into a bit of trouble on this issue:

    Reporting on Dianna Ortiz case[edit]
    In 1989, Sister Dianna Ortiz, a Catholic nun from New Mexico, was abducted, raped, and tortured while working in Guatemala by members of a Guatemalan government-backed death squad. Her abductors believed Ortiz was a subversive.[21] During a subsequent interview, Roberts contested Ortiz's claim that an American was among her captors. (The United States provided significant military aid to Guatemala at the time.) Roberts implied that Ortiz was lying about the entire episode, although Ortiz later won a lawsuit against a Guatemalan general she accused in the case.[22] It was later revealed that Patton Boggs, the law firm of Roberts' brother Tommy, was paid by the Guatemalan government to promote a more positive image of the regime, which was widely criticized internationally for human rights abuses.[23][24][25]
    Cokie Roberts - Wikipedia

    I still like the late Cokie Roberts who worked for NPR but that doesn't mean she couldn't be wrong.

    I can not think of a worse experience than what Sister Dianna went through.

    That order, Maryknoll was pretty active in reporting all of the news on this. A bunch of Priests were killed down in El Salvador too, 1989 murders of Jesuits in El Salvador - Wikipedia , really, really tough times.



     
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