Today's consecration on the feast of the Annunciation is spiritually significant - Just as a child is conceived and carried in the womb during nine months - then labour pains - to birth Likewise today peace has been conceived but we have the labour pangs and contractions of labour to go through before peace is born. I expect a real purgation to come from heaven in order to cleanse of us of sin and attachment to sin and then will come the era of peace as prophecised at Fatima. I am not saying nine months - but I do expect the purgation to be a real short, sharp period of pain. Ave Maria
I understand your thinking; reminds me of the case of people who are truly converted only after going through periods of illness and suffering.
today the news about the war showed a possible rollback of the large-scale Russian offensive in Ukraine, moving to focus on the breakaway regions. also today Biden announced the plan to sell the North American gas (more expensive) to European countries, I wonder if when the cost of living in Europe soars because of this, people will protest in the streets, and with episodes of violence and repression. I think we can get rid of the terrible specter of a nuclear war but we find Europe very divided by the economic problems that stem from this war.
That possibility is discussed in this video from the Fatima Cemtre. They also settle the question about the peculiar (to us) title for Our Lady in the prayer. My only reservation about the prayer is that abortion was omitted from the list of humanity's evils in the 20th century. Abortion is probably the greatest destroyer of human life today and governments throughout the world are enshrining into law this sin that calls to Heaven for vengeance . It is high on the list of errors Russia has spread throughout the world and today of all days it should have topped the list of humanity's offences against God. Anyway, abortion isn't mentioned in the part of the video I have watched and the people from the Fatima Centre are quite optimistic. Here's the video:
Some natural disturbances are also down the line which will worsen our situation further. Everyone around me thinks normal life will resume when this war stops.
I believe we all must realise that the evil one has become very strong in the world today. The oligarchs in the world, are of satan, and they wish to control the world through the many diabolical plans they have in store for us; they are still to be reckoned with, even after the conversion of Russia, IMO. This is what Our Lady intimated when she insisted the consecration should happen before the spread of Russia's communistic ideals. We have been dealing with TWO dilemmas.... 1) the need for Russia conversion! 2) the need to defeat the errors of Russia's ideologies! which have spread throughout the world. Like a noxious weed it grows tall and fast overshadowing and affecting all, stunting the growth of the young branches and obscuring the light of established branches. I think we must be prepared to combat a greater evil; that is the spread of Russian ideologies (communism), under the guise of the new world order. These mega wealthy and powerful satanic players who wish to establish communistic rule to the world are waiting in the wings and will be hopping mad when and if Russia converts! Because this may very well destroy their current plans but make no mistake the instigators of the last 2 years worldwide mandated madness will strike back! We are called by Our Lady and Our Lord to remain in prayer and penance no matter what!
Whatever, This is a great video, a wonderful discussion. They point out that Our Lady of Fatima spoke of the errors of Russia specifically spreading throughout the world and not communism, Marxism etc. But communism and Marxism can be considered to be some of the errors or Russia too. I find it interesting that Our Lady of Garabandal on the other hand pointed to the time when communism comes again, maybe because we would understand this better if this is, in fact, the timing. They mention that it would have been wonderful if Pope Francis had released the text to the third secret yesterday. Maybe the pope will do that soon, let's pray about it. In reference to the third secret, at the end of the video when they discuss the white bishop and a pope who seems to be murdered I wonder if the vision was showing the seers a white martyrdom of a pope. Enough said about that. They even bring up Malachi Martin for just a few minutes but still. I forgot about Malachi Martin saying that the consummation of the third secret will begin within 20 years from 1996. Chris Ferrara mentions that Pope Francis became pope within that time frame and recently I realized that the Crimea was officially annexed by Russia on March 18, 2014 and we know that 3/18 is connected to the prophecies of Our Lady of Medjugorje. Chris does mention that Malachi Martin stated that Russia and Ukraine are involved in the third secret. Chris also reminds us that Malachi Martin said that the third secret speaks of a profound change in the entire world system. I especially like that they remind us that our job is not done with the pope consecrating Russia to Her Immaculate Heart and that we need to continue to live the messages of Our Lady of Fatima. Thank you for posting this.
What a wonderful thing to say: we are in the post-Consecration days! We must remember the purpose of these requests of Our Lady: to establish devotion to her Immaculate Heart. What a temptation! Now that the Consecration has been made by Pope Francis, we can sit on our laurels and wait for Peace. No! Now we, more so than ever, must promote the Rosary and practice the First Five Saturdays. This should become more universal. And as they do, peace will increase and spread. Josephite emphasizes that the New World Order is not simply going to roll over and die. But what are our key weapons? The Rosary and the First Five Saturdays! In one way or another, the promotion of these two gifts must be emphasized, especially now that the world has been exposed to the international event of the Consecration. If we sit back and say, "Finally!" but do not follow through, the race to the finish line will barely get out of the starting gate; we must strive for the finish line. I vote for promoting the First Saturdays fervently since the Consecration has attracted attention. Even Cardinal Cupich of Chicago performed the Act of Consecration! We must not allow this moment of promoting Devotion to the Immaculate Heart to be swept away! Let us join Our Lady in crushing the head of satan! How so? Establish First Saturday cenacles in our parishes, in every parish. Promote devotion to the Immaculate Heart via the most practical weapon Our Lady has provided! As it spreads, so shall we move closer to the Triumph each month! The Consecration mirrors the Normandy beachhead of WWII. Like Nazism, the NWO shall be defeated; the tool of JoeJerk shall be choked off, for wherever he turns the First Saturday cenacles will bar his way! The Consecration to the Immaculate Heart must not simply be performed, but lived out. Let's get to work! Philippians 3:13 Brethren, I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature be thus minded; and if in anything you are otherwise minded, God will reveal that also to you. 16 Only let us hold true to what we have attained. O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
It is a good discussion. I wish I had seen it before Taylor Marshall's video about the title used for Our Lady. I had only watched a few minutes of it when I posted it which I did because the part I had watched was relevant to Garabandal's opening post on this thread. In the past I was inclined to dismiss the people at the Fatima Centre for being too obsessed with how Pope John Paul's consecration fell short of Our Lady's request. Now, having watched all or some of other videos (the Reason & Theology crowd were so obnoxious that I could only endure a few minutes of that video) the Fatima Centre have gone up in my estimation.
I thought the same thing, "I wish I had seen it before Taylor Marshall's video about the title used for Our Lady." but this video from the Fatima Center was not available until after the consecration occurred. It was very wise of you to look to the experts for their analysis.
No wisdom on my part. I did suspect that there was an over-reaction but Spanish speakers in the comments section of Taylor Marshall's video gave me the jitters. A later comment pointed out that it was a term traditionally used in the East in reference to Our Lady. I'm editing this to say that I disagree with them about our being entitled to know the interpretation of the vision as given by Our Lady to Lucia. While we know that Our Lady told Lucia what it meant, we don't know that the meaning was meant for everyone, for the Pope or just for Lucia.
Hi Whatever, Dr Taylor Marshall did an about face, (a sort of retraction) within 12 hours (I think) of that first video which questioned the consecration due to the title of Our Lady as "Earth of Heaven". Apparently Bishop Schneider saw Dr Marshall's video and contacted him with information that Dr Marshall then disseminated, I will post the video below. I have also posted this video to two other threads. Dr Taylor Marshall states that Bishop Athanasius Schneider sent him information regarding this title of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the fact that is a legit title. In fact on meditating on this I find it a beautiful title for Our Lady. He gives quotes provided by Bishop Schneider, regarding the authenticity of this title. At the 6.30 minute mark, we have the quote of St Ephrem the Syrian At the 10 minute mark, we have the quote of St John Chrysostom, (I find this the most beautiful as it alludes to Mary as the new Paradise of God and the new Jerusalem) At the 17 minute mark we have the quote of St Peter Damian and at the 18 minute Mark we have the cannon for receiving Holy Communion Ode 1.
Thanks Josephite. I wish we could clone Bishop Schneided. Have you seen his interview with Timothy Gordon? I posted it on the Consecration thread. He is so clear about Russia's errors and how they have spread to the West. It's really worth watching if you haven't seen it already. Here it is to save you searching for it:
Thank you Maria D, The video is very good, I was able to take away many salient points, the fact that my hearing is compromised made it difficult in parts to decipher, due to the poor audio, but I listened to the end and agree Bishop Schneider is indeed a Bishop after my own heart! I didn't catch all of his explanations of the Russian errors spread to the world but having been abreast of most of them (due to remaining updated by many holy persons and organisations including Bishop Schneider in other interviews) I was able to lip read (so to speak) and use an educated guess. Thank you
Thank you Carolyn. I still have to watch the videos that have been recently posted on this thread. I like Bishop Schneider very much also and I'm very glad that he reached out to Dr. Taylor Marshall to offer his help. I came across the following video which I may have watched in the past but I thought that others here may be interested in this discussion especially now. It is lovely to see these men work together to help us all understand these things better. I am in the process of watching this video (again?).
