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  1. Genuflect

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    she is back at it, there is a message for Sept 16
     
  2. Glenn

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    I am wondereing if a portion of the new message is aimed at the current situation (or this forum ) for judging.

    I am the sole judge.
    Do not deem yourself worthy of such a Holy Position.
    My Judgment is just and right or correct.
    Thus, do not judge, as I have said.

    When you judge your sisters and brothers, you elevate yourself above Christ Jesus and judge Him as well.
    And which of you would step up knowing this is true –
    to be the judge of your sisters and brothers you have to be the judge of the Son of Man.

    Dearest and bewildered Children, thus you must not judge.
    I have created each of you in My Image and I am perfect Love.
    I Love what I create.
    Do not judge My Creations because as you do, you bring insult and wonder or sadness to the Sacred Heart of God.
    If you could only know the blackness of such a sin.
     
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    Glenn good morning :)

    I never understand long posts like this from the Lord. I dont thin anyone here judged Linda but were trying to decipher the messages. I will go with the people here about them, but Linda I have respect for as a person and I dont judge her.

    Sometimes though I do wish that God would keep his messages short. When I do find sites on the internet that people put up about messages they get, I alwyas think God talks an awful lot. God forgive me for saying that.
     
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    Praying for Linda and praying especially for her Spiritual Director.;)
     
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    I recall bolts of lightening used to fly in this direction from On High from the , 'Three Patrick's' and MDM sites when they got nixed as well. :D

    I am sure God has more important matters to interest Him. If the mainstream Catholic media catch up with these messages then there'll be something to fire thunderbolts about.


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  6. Glenn

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    Good Morning FoundSoul, this is only a small portion of that post, they all are quite long.
    I guess any seer, true or otherwise, sees objections to their messages as a personal attack ,even if there was no intent to imply that. I pray for Linda.
     
  7. Fatima

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    I think to many people get confused and frustrated about the word "judge". Jesus said, "Ye judge a tree by its fruits". Yes, we are to judge actions and words as either being of God or not. We can never judge a person or the state of their soul. But we had better judge words and actions, lest you fall to accepting sin and loose your own soul for being silent when heresy lives on.
     
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    I have only briefly glanced at some of the messages on Linda's site but what stands out for me is the many words and how often these messages are received. Even the greatest saints didn't receive as much.
    I join Padraing in,...Praying for Linda and praying especially for her Spiritual Director.;)
     
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  9. Andy3

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    I did not find the text of judgement unusual in this case because when you read through or if you read through all of the messages from the past this topic of not judging comes up often. Plus, I would imagine Linda stayed in heavy prayer a lot over the weekend and was troubled by what had transpired so this in a way could be an answer to her praying to ease her mind a bit. As for the frequency of messages if we are indeed very very close and time is short as has been displayed in her messages from the beginning couldn't the messages be coming frequently/daily if God wants all people to have a chance to prepare for what is to come and experience His mercy? I am in the investment world for my job and we have a disclaimer that is placed on all reports: "Past performance does not guarantee future results". I can't help but think about that when evaluting things in life. Just because things happened a certain way in the past does not mean they will happen that way in the future. Didn't the children at Fatima receive daily visits for a year or more and didn't that also happen at Garabandral and Medj for a time before they too slowed a bit?

    Again I don't know about these things but these are my thoughts as to the why's. What I have noticed in all these messages and about Linda is the simplicity of the messages and the simplicity of Linda's knowledge on all things Catholic. If she was called by God and became devout in just the past year there would be no way she could know much about the church and the past. Someone mentioned back in this thread and I aplogize for who it was, that they had this overwhelming desire to learn and soak up all things of and from God as well as learning about the saints. I can see this too as I am very analytical and want to know everything when I have a passion for it but I also think that if this was happening to me in my life when would I have the time to dig deeper if God was talking to me daily. I would be rather busy with going to church daily, rosary, chaplets, other prayers and then spending the hour with God as Linda does then typing it for the board. I would also have other duties in my life like duties to my family. As much as I would want to learn about others in the past I just don't know where the time would be. I would be more focussed on the present job for God and the preparing others for the short time that we have. I want to be clear. I am not saying that Linda is right and we are wrong just displaying my thoughts about all this because Linda's messages, even though they are long, are very close to the countless others I read or have read of late. Does anyone know what it was like for other visionairies in the past? What was their knowledge? What was the knowledge of those at Fatima (well really just one since the other's died within a year). What about the kids at Garabandral or Sister Faustina? I had read in the past that Sister Faustina was not that educated and was very simple. There were those that dismissed her diary because they felt there was no way she could have written it so it had to be written by her other sisters in her order and possibly after death. I do not believe this but just have to wonder about what other visionaries had to go through while they were receiving their visions. Wasn't there also visionaires in Africa that knew nothing of the church until after their locutions had started and occurred. I thought I read of one visionary that is church approved that had the toughest battle with one of their friends who then completely changed course overnight and became her greatest advocate and supporter. Sorry for all the questions I am just trying to discern all that I read from all the locutionists throughout history and the current one's today still being discussed but not approved like Garabandral and Medjugori.

    One last question on this as I am trying to discern the various other messages you can read out there from people. If these people are being contacted by Stan instead of God why such the need for heavy devotion to Mary, confession often, eurcharist daily, rosary daily, etc etc that you read in these "locutions". Also how could Stan be able to name Jesus Christ as he often does in these messages? I just feel that when I read these various locutionists the drive it has created for me is more church, more confession, more rosary, more chaplets, more devotion and more deep time in prayer and contact with God and being a better more loving neighbor. These locutions I have read have inspired me to strive to be completely devout and obedient to God's will. I am still a sinner but now I have seen the errors of my sins and am starting to understand why my sins have been so wrong and hurtful to not only God but others both past and present and I am trying to be much closer to God. Right wrong or indifferent in where these messages have come from what they have done for me or what God has done for me because of these is slowly making me into a much better child of His than I have ever been in my 37 years on this rock.
     
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    When I prayed about all these messages in the last few years, I asked the Lord to help me discern. I opened my bible and FIVE times in a row it opened right to a passage that jumped out at me, although they were five different passages! It said " many false prophets will come in My name" and again " Many will claim to be the Christ " (or speaking for the Christ??) I felt comfortable that most of these were false. Now stan is a crafty one at that, and ESPECIALLY with those that are loving and devout, but open to this stuff. I say "open" because they love the wonder of their prayer life more than serving God. Jesus Himself tells us to submit to the obedience of the Church, as it is the only safe way to wander in the spiritual life, and the only safe guide. If He is truly speaking, He will not stop if you submit to the Church, as we know from the Saints like Faustina, but he will encourage you to obey. The DANGER with all this, even though it is telling people to pray the rosary, etc... is that the POINT (if it is the evil one) is to get people addicted to this seer by "good" things, and then when they are all "hooked" to turn and have them leave the Church. MDM is the perfect example. If a seer would take the time to be a little concerned, and actually READ the bible, they would understand that God nor Jesus NEVER spoke in this way to people. In fact Mary hardly ever spoke at all, Jesus in parables, and God gave commandments. Jesus does speak to many people in prayer as a friend and beloved, but usually NOT to be published because of so much room for error in locutions.
     
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    Thanks Carmel. I totally saw what you meant with MDM. I was reading them all until the messages changed daily to persecution against those questioning MDM. Totally saw that the fruit was rotten. MDM was trying to change the beliefs of the church and seemed like she was almost trying to start a new church. I have not had the feeling with Linda's yet or the locutions.org person yet though I must admit I have my doubts about the locutions.org person. With Linda it seemed the big clincher for people was the captial punishment issue where I could totally see what God was getting at especially when you take into context of the modern era being able to keep the dangerous people away from society rather easily so there would technically be no need for capital punishment today at least in the more developed countires of the world. Ironically enough I was listening to Catholic Answers this past week on Sacred Heart Radio and a non catholic called in about capital punishment as well. I think it was Father Packwa (sp?) who answered saying the same thing the church only allows capital punishment when there is no other option to keep the individual away from people but in the modern developed world these deaths should become almost obsolete.
     
  12. Fatima

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    Let me take you back to my generation of the Baltimore Catechism on the question of why we were born. "We were created to know, love and serve God in this life, so we may be with him for ever in the life to come". If we want to serve God, we must love God and in order to love God, we must know God. One of the problems Linda had was that she took great pride in remaining ignorant of her faith and following only this "voice", which often times was incoherent in style and theologically unsound at times. Knowledge of God is something that must be developed in order to fully love and serve him as He desires, especially as an adult.
     
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    I think the Church's teaching on Capitol punishment is excellant. As Jesus said we must be so careful, as those who kill with the sword will be killed with the sword. When we sin terribly like murder, we are not only open to God's punishment, but to the world's punishment as well, and God warns us of this. The "world" is not Christian in nature, and does not care if you have enough life to come to conversion like a Christian would. But talking about capitol punishment at all in a locution seems to be silly, with all the really IMPORTANT things going on in the world, like abortion, and innocent peoples and Christians being murdered in the Arab countries, and as it takes an average of 10-20 years on death row in USA before anyone is actually done in, seems like they have more of a chance for conversion than the poor murdered victim, so anyway, that whole thing just really made me think of Stan, and pouring smoke in our eyes to get us arguing...
     
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    :confused::confused::confused: because I am a simple man I could not even start to pick holes in Linda's so called messages but the above quote said it all for me (that's why I have very quietly prayed for her from a distance) its not a way I would expect a person receiving messages from God to speak it just did not sit well with me....

    as for her latest message from her source regarding judging maybe if Linda took the time and read Matthew 7 she will also see that Jesus gives clear instruction on judging but also in the same piece of scripture he also talks about false prophets.;)

    May God truly bring Linda into his forgiving arms....


    Matthew 7

    Do Not Judge
    7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
    6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
    Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking
    7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
    The Narrow Way
    13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
    You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
    15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
    I Never Knew You
    21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
    Build on the Rock
    24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
    26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
    28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
     
  15. Andy3

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    Interesting messages of late. I still pray for discernment but do read them with interest. Here is a portion from today and this totally fits the 2017 timeline of events as seen in several prophecies:

    Blesséd Children, pray.
    I say this so often; this is because it is crucial.
    Prayer is so very crucial.
    It is more than important.
    It is essential.

    Do not fall short on prayer.
    Encourage others to pray all the time regardless of time or occupation.
    I Love always to hear prayers.

    Look to the east, Children!
    Such war comes!
    It is a cold and bitter time, this war!
    Do not ignore the import of these words.
    The war comes. It comes.
    And you must not doubt.

    God, what kind of war?

    ****
    It grows to include the whole of the World.
    It will darken the World for a time.
    It starts to unroll slowly, slowly, but it is now inevitable.
    The density of the war is an uncertainty
    and but for your prayers can be a devastating thing

    ****
    the low will be elevated and stunned and cruel with their new power.

    It is a hand-held war.
    A war where men will see the eyes of other men.
    It is a personal war and it is very much made up of hatred.

    God, when will this take place?

    **** [Approximately late 2015 - first half 2016.]
    Israel will fall at this time – at the end of two years.

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    Surrender yourself and listen.
    The most important part is that Israel will fall.
    She will fall incredibly fast and the World will stand aside and watch without providing her aid.
    There will be no good Samaritan here but one who will then be destroyed as well.
    ****
    Israel is key and she will fall.
    That is the biggest sign.
    Israel falls or fails.
     
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    And this too. I always wonder what Benedict must know and have seen.

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    Pray for My Beauteous and Belovéd Benedict who serves Me so well.
    For He knows My Vision and Will are good.
    He has seen My Plans for the Church.
     
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    I am still reading these with interest and do not see any comparrisons at all with what God tells Linda vs MDM and others in the past that were pretty clear that they were not coming from above. I am still not so certain that Linda can be dismissed despite the arguments made against her. I may be the only one around here reading the messages still but i did what to point out that yesterday's message was right in line with all these messages of the warning and darkness coming. Here are some interesting parts of it.

    Know the clouds will gather and hounds will howl and horses will stomp their feet,
    and many caged animals will grow wary and unmanageable.
    As the clouds roil with red fire, the skies will open with great glory
    And the King of Glory will show Himself to the World
    And every eye will see Him as if He were not feet from Him.
    And every person will see the nature of their sins laid out before them
    And even the belovéd Little Flowers will see theirs (such as they are)
    And we will weep.
    Call on Me for My Mercy when you are most tortured.
    Pray and My Mercy pierces your heads; feel the pain of your sins be replaced by the peace and Love of My Mercy.
    Trust in Me, your Lord God, the Christ and Savior, the Spirit who lifts you.
    Trust in My Son’s Belovéd Sacrifice fully.
    Trust and great gifts will be given you and divine miracles will be shown you.
    Put yourself all into My Hands. [That is to say, give all of yourself over to God.]
    All of yourself must I have to help you see these great works.

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    and:

    Now the swine back away or retreat, for they know what comes.
    I see them depart into the darkness of foliage that is dark.
    They wait for disorientation.
    People will feel shocked by their sins and this could be chaotic.
    When the soldiers come about to shoot down any who would speak about Me, that is one of the final pangs.
    A final warning to pray even more.
    While some will be dead, those who are left to endure the mirror of the World’s sins must suffer
    to pray for the forgiveness of their sins and those of this heavy World.
    Know, Dearest Children, again I say, I hear your prayers.
    Do not doubt Me, for I am the One True God.
    I have made the stars and the moon and the sun.
    Do not disbelieve in Me, for despite all of these good gifts I have given My Children,
    still one more was necessary and so Belovéd –

    I sent My Son to you to be Sacrificed and in His Loving Obedience and in Our Shared Love for you,
    He allowed Himself to be reduced to earthly man.
    He accepted punishment, torture, and death that each of you, My Belovéd Children, would have new life.
    This greatest Sacrifice saves you from the horrors of eternal hell
    and yet so many of you disregard His Sacrifice and demean His Love.

    Children, repent of your sins now, I say.
    Repent, for time works against you.

    Children,
    Pray for those who are lost, those who disbelieve and those who have become lukewarm in their Love and belief for Me.
    Pray the Rosary, for it is a saving grace.
    Pray for those who war.
    Pray for the Little Flowers who die in mass numbers. It is an affront to My Heart.
    Pray for My Belovéd Priests that they retain their holiness and faith in the light of the struggles to come.
    Pray to the Queen of Peace, the Most Blesséd and Beauteous Mother who I Love Most Dearly.
    She intercedes so Lovingly for this World and through her intercessions has given you so many graces.
    Pray for the days when the oceans will crawl savagely up to cities where the waters do not belong.
    This will happen again and again.
    Great waters will appear in cities throughout the World so as to cleanse it
    and they will be as abnormal as a horse that swims freely in the ocean.
    And these waters come from the seas, from rivers, and from the skies,
    like the tears of angels escaping Heaven which hope to help cleanse the World to bring joy to God.
    Yes, water like fingers will go through towns in places everywhere that are not used to or not ordinarily meant to be watered or wet lands.
    Pray Dear Children, for strength and pray that you too are always compassionate with your sisters and brothers.
    When you help one, you help Me.
    When you turn one away, you turn Me away.
    Do not be found acting without compassion
    for it brings pain to My Heart and I will treat you as you have treated others.
     
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    I can't remember exactly where it was, but somewhere in those messages God the Father several times referred to Mary as "my Mother". That seems to me to be blurring the distinction between the persons in the Trinity.

    And again going by memory, at one point the she recounted some kind of inner vision while praying the rosary in which she sees Mary screaming and struggling with the soldiers who are scourcing and crucifying her Son, with Mary eventually fainting and passing out during the worst of it. I don't know, but to me that does not sound like a brave and willing co-redemptrix with Christ (although it would be a completely normal reaction for a grieving mother, but Mary is no normal woman).
     
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    Right Phillip but for me those are not reasons to discredit because I would assume that God may speak to an individual in a manner that makes sense to them. God is Jesus and is the Holy Spirit. So does it matter if God the father calls Mary his Mother when God the Father was/is Jesus and Mary was/is his Mother and is called the Mother of God. As for the second thing. I do not recall that in her past messages but will dig deeper. I agree with you in a way but also feel that Mary was a human Mother first before she was the Queen of Heaven. If Jesus, being God and human had doubts in the garden and showed his human side and weakness, then surely his mother could be appalled by the whole scenes of the passion. Again I don't know just what comes to mind. Being horrified at what is happening to your child does not mean you do not have courage or are brave, it just makes you human like she was. I would have been horrified watching that and probably would have passed out too and maybe would not even know who He was, just horrified and angered by the scene of it all. I am sure there were many other mothers in the crowd who were feeling the same thing if that indeed happened. I am quite sure though and feel in my heart that she would not have been calm and standing there proud. I would imagine she was struggling and fighting with soldiers just to get close enough to him like she did and kind of like the scene was depicted in the movie The Passion of Christ.
     
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    There seems to be some confliction with the locutions.org site and this woman from New York. On locutions.org 02/04/11

    "The moment of the greatest darkness is the moment before the greatest light. The very moment when it seems that Israel will be destroyed is the moment when I will save Israel and all will proclaim that Jesus is the Messiah. I have revealed the deepest sorrow of my heart."
     

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