Fr. Michel Rodrigue - importance of Knock Ireland

Just like Jesus and about 90% of all rockstar saints. But if your lucky you might become a victim soul or martyr.


“To speak of certain holy individuals whom we collectively call “victim souls” takes us into territory that many Christians often fail to understand: the redemptive power of human suffering.

A victim soul is an individual who has been chosen by God to undergo physical, and sometimes spiritual, suffering beyond that of normal human experience. The victim soul willingly accepts this unique and difficult mission of offering up his or her pains for the salvation of others.” Copied from article. https://www.simplycatholic.com/what-is-a-victim-soul/

Most people don’t understand...the spiritual process is based on humility and suffering. We can’t comprehend why even the church attacks future saints. Its pretty simple. Its part of purification process.

Everybody wants to be Padre Pio for the special graces. No one wants to go through the spiritual purification he had to endure.

 

The old expression: if you want what I have, you have to be willing to do what I did to get it.

 

Those questions appear to be coming from some hopeful ignorance....hopeful that Fr. M is guilty of something. What a shame and lack of good will. "Church of the Future"? Again, apparently from your own design that's other than the reality. If you have so many questions why then do you proceed to lesson this priest's standing before you yourself even educate your own apparent ignorance? And sad to say you imply other erroneous misgivings about other good people....and don't seem to be up to snuff on Fr. M's own statements. Dig deeper and become more informed about someone prior to inferring what seems to be a spreading of misinformation. Your questions have their answers within earlier discussions.

May I add....people here should not be expecting to replace their own opinions for what the Church herself permits only for the bishops to decided upon.....esp. re: the talks of TLIG by Vassula in which so many of the clerics of the Church participate and permit their own faithful to also participate. And again, she doesn't fall under any canonical judgement by the Roman Church since she is Greek Orthodox and has a good many of those authorities participating and doing the same......like in the Roman Church; some pro and some against. Other than that factual foundation all else is gossip. It's all been explained previously but doesn't stop the repetitious errors of seeming now willful ignorance in order to smear.

 

ETA, You make many assumptions, and personal negative comments! Very few people, even on "Covid vacation," like I am, at the moment, have time to spend hours and hours, researching an alleged messenger.

This is a "discussion" thread, and these are legitimate questions... Espec. since Fr. Rodrigue appears with John Leary, why not others? How is he building monasteries if not with donors? How close is he to Mark Mallett/Fr. Iannuzzi? There must be answers to give.

Edited to add, from Serena, “On March 28, 2020, Fr. Michel wrote (click here to read his entire letter of March 26, 2020) to those helping him to accomplish the Lord's project of the monastery for the Church of the future. The phrase comes from the Countdown site itself...

 

With respect, ETA, you need to read that link and read up on Vassula. Your spin is off center She's not approved, and spiritual writing is frowned upon, Ratzinger said that about her works.
Also, with respect again, Fr. Michel has not been approved, so one may ask questions.
He is the founder of the Fraternité Saint-Benoît-Joseph-Labre, a lay association of the faithful which is not a religious institute.
These are Bishop Lemay's words from his email response to member Franciscan. No mention is ever made in that disclosure email that there is a potential monastery to be built. It's not a religious institute! It is a legitimate question to inquire about it.
people here should not be expecting to replace their own opinions for what the Church herself permits only for the bishops to decided upon.

The words in bold are from your post.

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So what has Bishop Lemay done and what has Fr. M done that encourages you to continue to influence others against what is still permitted by his bishop? The build up of the new (from his own PR and mystical experiences that have born so much good fruit) religious apostolate (not "institute" but still religious, because it includes the laity....no need to assume a lesser importance; only a different formation and purpose; should not then assume any lesser degree for possible holiness as people are seeming to do wrongly due simply to terms used....these days the laity are doing more for the established truth of the True Magisterium than many clerics....that shows another out of step assumption by this Bishop as far as the call to holiness for these times goes within the Church) w/ newly ordained priests that involve families and vowed laity; the permission of his bishop to do so as well as to build the necessary monasteries for same and within the requests from God the Father to hurry the second one. Those are what has been approved from the very same mystical interaction between Fr. M and God the Father. Facts on the ground vs personal opinion. Actions, as they say, speak louder than words. One thing though that we do know more about and that's the fact that this Bishop, according to Church protocol for PRs, could not form any final judgement since he is prejudiced against any and all (assuming even approved) PRs that involve the end times.....waaaaay out of touch w/ the Church's own order for proper discernment. And that would be properly questioned as has been done in other PRs to the proper Vatican authority. One must take into any judgement the entirety of the situation here....otherwise the sin of "clericalism" rather than obedience to the true protocol of the Church may be committed. We've had a lot of bad experience with that!!

Nothing wrong w/ asking questions but to repeat same when they've already been replied to many times over shows more of a preformed dislike or even fear of what doesn't fit into one's own already established thinking. You give me far too much credit for controlling any questions....ha! No doubt they'll continue to come while the actual benefiting from the graces of greater understanding (point of the thread w/ such a specific title for one talk) and helps for these now obvious moments of trial go wanting and even trashed.

Obviously I've acquainted myself with what the Church permits for such as Vassula which places me further along the historical facts than what still appears wanting in your own education on this particular subject. You still don't understand what the Church permits or what the Bishops have taken advantage of in their own actions and discernments re: Vassula? Or would you just prefer that they hadn't done that since you personally don't like it?? They are the ones involved in the on the ground activity for this subject who are not out of order for what is currently permitted. And the current Pope won't change that either from what is understood from his own meetings with Vassula and for her mission of joining the Roman and Orthodox Churches....the goal of so many former Popes as well.

 

That "click here" link does not work. I will go back to the CTTK site to find it.

 

I am afraid I will have to close down this thread as I am getting nothing but complaints.

But if anyone wants to argue otherwise you are very welcome to do so.

But maybe leave it to midnight to let folks finish things off.

It's sad to do so but people are really hurting each other.

Sad, sad, sad.

 

How can we be hurting each other to ask questions about the validity of what is taking place, Padraig. I know I did not use any bad language or say anything hurtful or hateful.
I don't mind if you close down the thread, though. It's your forum. I think people know their blame. Deep inside we all have to face it one day.

 

That explanation speaks to the purified Church, the one that is now beginning to be formed by Mary in her Son's image.....as "birthed in travail".....w/ her true Sons and what will be worthy of entering into the New Era of the Divine Will that she has promised after the purification of the tribulations. Fr. M is well aware of these promises and expectations for this future which the Holy Spirit is preparing in order to fulfill the perfect prayer of the Our Father. If you haven't noticed the current "institutional" church is falling into apostasy and schism. His own experiences and communications w/ the Trinity speak to what is to come. We are warned now to follow only the True Magisterium and her faithful sons are now being formed (started by the formation of the Marian Movement of Priests from the messages given to Fr. Gobbi and continued to be followed by that permitted movement) and forming others for this Truth and coming need. This is to recognize the coming full confrontation between Satan and the one who is destined to crush his head. Fr. M's new religious apostolate is being formed out of such revelations to him and others and from St. John's Revelations. Thank God!

 

Yes, Padraig, it doesn't seem to produce any real benefit except perhaps for introducing some to what could be for them a blessing from such a one as Fr. Michel. Perhaps that has been done and there are other sources, as Countdown to the Kingdom site, to continue that interest. Unfortunately though, that solution benefits those who from the beginning have desired just that outcome of closure rather than just ignoring the threads that cause them personal heartburn! Since we are in serious times and times for real decisions on what is newly revealed re: the exposure of evil vs good, there has to come more strong defense of one or the other since we will stand for that personal choice after the Warning.

It's your baby though and the contentment of the visitors is important even when stronger words of revelation invite personal discomfort.....since our Lady would NEVER say anything even remotely like the question of coming wars and sufferings and punishments or the need for the coming purification of the Church IF we don't follow her guidance....no....never! Or even the need to wake up to a future where only those who follow her continuing guidance given more specifically within the ongoing messages will survive. Amen!!

 

This man said the Blessed Mother 'walked into' his bedroom. He claims to have conversations with Jesus. I have watched a few of his YT videos. Be very very careful. I think it's demonic. Also, Fr. Goring has gone off the rails. He made a YT video advising people not to be vaccinated against Covid 19 citing Revelation as authority. Be very very careful.

 

I rest my case! That just never happens....ever! Everything personal....never historical facts showing same claims....even within the "approved" PRs.

 

Well you know on a forum like this were there are frank exchanges of views you are taking a risk of taking it on the chin.

People come to me and complain. But you know its a bit like a boxing ring. You're bound to get the boxing glove in the face at one time or another, complain as you will.

I've a pretty thick skined myself and can bounce back up.

I recall a very,very famous Catholic Apologist a few years back who was outraged on the forum at the things that were being said to him. He left pretty briskly having emailed me in horror.

But he had a fixed site were people could not contradict him or say mean and nasty things .

Sometimes you know mean and nasty things happen to be the truth.

If you have a forum, an exchange of views , you're going to get hurt. No avoiding it. But life's like that.

You pays your money and you take your chances.

'We've all gotta be prepared to take it on the chin, to some extent.

I'm sorry but its true.

The problem with the modern world is everyone has got so super nice.

With everyone keeps complaining to me about everyone else its gonna end up like a graveyard here.

When I was at school no one ever, ever , ever went complaining to the teacher.

Now I have a queue.

 

Padraig please don’t. Reading what ETA writes in defense of a priest and his messages, that are not condemned is a learning moment for all of us. ETA’s words are so intelligent, articulate and inspirational. Maybe you can advise those against Fr Michel to start their own thread with their own arguments. Nobody should continuously harass those who believe we should judge after messages are condemned. Fr Michel has obeyed his Bishop. He’s doing nothing wrong.

 

So argue. Fight back. State your case.

I think my own big lesson on the internet is.

Walk away. Leave it. Good bye. Forget about it.

If you don't want to walk away . Don't walk away.

I've never been in a Pub Fight in my entire life. I just choose to walk away. I'm not sure why others don't.

 

I’m still here.

 

Good, be prepared to get hurt. Ask yourself if it is worth it.

If it is . Get back in the ring.

If it's not worth it.

Leave it.

But always bottom line. 'Is this what God wants?'