Approved apparitions in the Amazon!

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  1. garabandal

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    From the beginning God has used prophet's to bring his messages and warnings to mankind. Amos 3:7 "For surely the Lord God does nothing without revealing his plan to his prophets his messengers". How God interacts with his children here on earth in and through messages is not "a very small part", but a very essential part of his plan. In these end times God has chosen his own Mother as the queen of prophets to brings heavens messages to earth. Although few are listening and fewer yet understand the messages that are given through his messengers, it is the full intent of our loving God to make those "who have ears to hear" prepare themselves spiritually and physically for his plans. God has always acted in this way and warned us in scripture, "do not despise prophecy" as most in the world and some even on this forum seem to do. I thank God for loving us his children enough to prepare us. Without hearing, learning and putting into practice what came to me 35 years ago upon hearing of Fatima, I would still be steeped into sin and living in this crazed world like most everyone else. The messages from heaven changed my direction and brought me into the deep riches of my Catholic faith when I was a wondering soul in a meaningless world. Thank God for his messengers. They have a very serious and hard task commissioned by God.
     
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  4. Fatima

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    I find these messages and all the other ones Edson has allowed to be posted most credible. I pity his current bishop who wants to hinder the will of God and the Blessed Mother to spread God's plans throughout the world. Nothing in them is contrary to faith or morals and they surely fit into the prophetic consensus of other approved and alleged messages from heaven.

    January 21, 2017:

    Peace my beloved children, peace!

    My children, God is calling you to conversion and many are deaf to his voice. Turn back to God, repenting and asking for forgiveness of your sins, for when the Lord says “enough,” everything on the face of the earth will change and many will be those who will cry and mourn for not having been obedient to His call.

    Convert, convert, convert, therefore for the times are serious and evil. Welcome my invitation to prayer and live out my messages, with great faith, within your homes with your families.

    Pray the Rosary every day and fill your day with little prayers so that the Holy Spirit would enlighten you much more and so that in you the desire would grow to pray more and more and to be in the presence of God.

    Brazil is becoming black because of the terrible sins that are being committed. A dense darkness is wanting to envelop your country, a dark cloud of violence, death, and lack of faith. Receive my motherly words in your hearts and ask for God’s light and grace, so that all evil might be warded away from you and your families. Pray and God will hear you!

    Return to your homes with God’s peace. I bless you all: in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen!

    Today, during the apparition, the Blessed Mother showed a dark and fierce cloud that was enveloping the map of Brazil. This dark cloud, as she said, means the violence, death, and lack of faith that plague the Brazilian people who are not praying or being obedient to God’s call. If Brazil does not listen to God’s call to conversion, it will suffer greatly. Let us pray our Rosary and live out the messages of Our Lady with great faith and thus, only thus will God hear us. [Italics: Edson Glauber]December 29, 2016:

    12/29/16
    I had a vision of the arm of Jesus raised above the world, prepared to strike it. The Lord gave me a reading for us to read, meditate, and for us to change the course of our lives, while we still have time to convert and be good people.


    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, who change darkness into light, and light into darkness, who change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own sight, and prudent in their own esteem! Woe to the champions at drinking wine, the valiant at mixing strong drink! To those who acquit the guilty for bribes, and deprive the just man of his rights! Therefore, as the tongue of fire licks up stubble, as dry grass shrivels in the flame, even so their root shall become rotten and their blossom scatter like dust. For they have spurned the law of the LORD of hosts, and scorned the word of the Holy One of Israel. Therefore the wrath of the LORD blazes against His people, He raises His hand to strike them. When the mountains quake, their corpses shall be like refuse in the streets. For all this, His wrath is not turned back, and His hand is still outstretched.

    (Isaiah 5:20-25)

    October 8: 2016

    When Our Lady raises her right arm she is showing us a sign of protection and blessing. Often she has made this gesture during the apparitions. She is warding off a great evil and danger, in order that it might not occur, that it might be lessened. This happened recently when I was in the USA. May the power of her motherly love and her intercession continue warding great evils and calamities away from this country and all the other countries where she has sent me to speak about her holy messages.
     
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    I believe he is authentic.
     
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    Where are the usa speaking arrangements I'm about 4 to 6 hours from,nj in mass
     
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    I believe they are true, I wish he was in Ireland I'd be there like a shot
     
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    I ask you?
    Zephaniah 1

    1 The word of the Lord that came to Zephaniah son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hezekiah, during the reign of Josiah son of Amon king of Judah:


    Judgment on the Whole Earth in the Day of the Lord
    2 “I will sweep away everything
    from the face of the earth,”
    declares the Lord.
    3 “I will sweep away both man and beast;
    I will sweep away the birds in the sky
    and the fish in the sea—
    and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.”a]">[a]

    “When I destroy all mankind
    on the face of the earth,”
    declares the Lord,
    4 “I will stretch out my hand against Judah
    and against all who live in Jerusalem.
    I will destroy every remnant of Baal worship in this place,
    the very names of the idolatrous priests—
    5 those who bow down on the roofs
    to worship the starry host,
    those who bow down and swear by the Lord
    and who also swear by Molek,b]">[b]
    6 those who turn back from following the Lord
    and neither seek the Lord nor inquire of him.”


    7 Be silent before the Sovereign Lord,
    for the day of the Lord is near.
    The Lord has prepared a sacrifice;
    he has consecrated those he has invited.


    8 “On the day of the Lord’s sacrifice
    I will punish the officials
    and the king’s sons
    and all those clad
    in foreign clothes.
    9 On that day I will punish
    all who avoid stepping on the threshold,c]">[c]
    who fill the temple of their gods
    with violence and deceit.


    10 “On that day,”
    declares the Lord,
    “a cry will go up from the Fish Gate,
    wailing from the New Quarter,
    and a loud crash from the hills.
    11 Wail, you who live in the market districtd]">[d];
    all your merchants will be wiped out,
    all who trade withe]">[e] silver will be destroyed.
    12 At that time I will search Jerusalem with lamps
    and punish those who are complacent,
    who are like wine left on its dregs,
    who think, ‘The Lord will do nothing,
    either good or bad.’
    13 Their wealth will be plundered,
    their houses demolished.
    Though they build houses,
    they will not live in them;
    though they plant vineyards,
    they will not drink the wine.”


    14 The great day of the Lord is near—
    near and coming quickly.
    The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter;
    the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry.
    15 That day will be a day of wrath—
    a day of distress and anguish,
    a day of trouble and ruin,
    a day of darkness and gloom,
    a day of clouds and blackness—
    16 a day of trumpet and battle cry
    against the fortified cities
    and against the corner towers.


    17 “I will bring such distress on all people
    that they will grope about like those who are blind,
    because they have sinned against the Lord.
    Their blood will be poured out like dust
    and their entrails like dung.
    18 Neither their silver nor their gold
    will be able to save them
    on the day of the Lord’s wrath.”

    In the fire of his jealousy
    the whole earth will be consumed,
    for he will make a sudden end
    of all who live on the earth.


     
  9. Once again, as almost expected these days, it seems that those who are usually the furthest from the apparition, the messages, the fruits, and most of all without even meeting with or discussing the matter with the seer/s, him/her/them selves, willy nilly go about disturbing and confusing the faithful. I've seen this happen so many times, and esp. at times where people are praying, obeying, and gathering hope from actual witnessed fruits of grace and their "authorities" enter in without the awareness of their own possible grave sin against the faithful and spread a kind of disorientation.....thus participating in the greater darkness spreading everywhere.....while themselves not carrying any of the same kind of burden they lay upon the already suffering servants! This is why I believe that we are being told more and more now to deepen our own spirituality, prayer, discernment through the Holy Spirit, and knowing Jesus through the Word as well as through the Immaculate Heart of His mother.

    Turmoil Surrounds Alleged Seer

    http://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/turmoil-surrounds-alleged-seer
     
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    What is hard about this is the struggle to remain obedient. Bishops are given charisms to discern. God has made it so. And they have the authority to limit or forbid visionaries. We cannot pick and choose. We must remain obedient. In this our protection lies.
     
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  11. But Bishops as well as any authority must be obedient to the Church's requirements for judging such things as private revelations. This is impossible from a distance and without thorough examination of the entirety, esp. including the portions involving the qualities of the seers, personally examined in all ways. If there was such a thing as some special granting of all encompassing "charism" for such things then we would not have one Bishop granting permission for years for any particular private revelation to continue being spread and being promoted, continuing day by day with new revelations, only to be followed by another Bishop at some later time, after hearing complaints from some who do not wish to believe that the Mother of God would ever "speak in such a way" or speak in a rather apocalyptic manner....and who simply wishes to rid the moment of any further public talk about such a thing under his jurisdiction...and thus rid himself of annoying further questioning. In one case that I can think of the original Bishop did a thorough examination of all things required by the Church, including rigid scientific examinations of the seers involved, having that assessment granted by another Bishop in the place the seers later moved, for a long period of time, until the complaints began by those who simply did not like the later messages or their more serious warnings about the future. Then whammo....a "fixed" and fraudulent quickie charade of a negative judgement by a Bishop who revealed a personal prejudice of ongoing PRs when he forbade, conveniently, any connection to Medjugorje, something the Church Herself was still in the process of examining.

    When one does not use one's reason in these matters, following the requirements of the Church for such things then one simply falls into what the Church often has later condemned and that is "clericalism". And it was JPII who emphasized that reason must always accompany one's faith. And the category of Private Revelations is one of the most open and complicated parts due to so many things, one thing being the obvious human prejudices of the authority in question who, in these times esp., may simply be a person without any acceptance of the mystical whatsoever thus interfering with any trusted discernment....or else they would simply be done deals without any further need for re-examinations as so often happens. That is not "picking and choosing" but rather obediently following what the Church Herself requires when those in authority choose to neglect to do so themselves.
     
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    I am basing this on Fr Ripperger and Fr Wolfe from sensus fidellium who both in separate sermons--actually Fr Ripperger was giving a retreat on spiritual warfare--emphasized that the local bishop has the charism for his diocese to decide on authenticity of apparitions etc. and Fr Rippeger emphasized that he doesn't have to be a good man. Even if he is a bad bishop His position carries that authority and he is given discernment by the Holy Spirit. Fr Ripperger gave a solemn warning as an exorcist to be obedient to the bishop in such matters because we cannot judge these things for ourselves. We are up against a super intelligent and crafty enemy who would like nothing better than to deceive us into disobedience. Even before I heard Fr Ripperger say this I knew this from my own studies. Also from reading the saints. This is why I stopped reading Charlie Johnston and why I will have nothing to do with Holy Love. Very clear guidelines were given in both cases by the respective bishops. To disregard it would be very risky spiritually.

    So until the matter is cleared up about Edson Glauber I wil give it a pass. Quite honestly I am losing any attraction for seers and messages. I am sticking with approved apparitions of OurLady and the scriptures. Everything else is to some degree noise to me now. Fr Hardin has a talk on you tube about discerning apparitions which pretty much says what Fr Ripperger says. I cannot speak for anyone but myself but for me the Obedience to the Church in these matters is my safety net.
     
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  13. I don't believe anyone has encouraged disobedience, once it is official that is, but no one is encouraging blind obedience. That is not of the Faith. Heaven's intentions are continuing in all ages. Because past approved private revelations have not been complied with, and in many cases even cavalierly dismissed for all practical purposes, is the reason for the necessitating continued influence from Heaven in order to prevent further delinquency and actually the loss of souls. I wouldn't dismiss what is current as not being just as relevant for the times as those that took years to approve in the past. There were the remnant few who took to those before full approval as well because they saw how necessary to the times they were....and also took to heart the warnings for the future if requirements of mitigation were NOT obeyed.
     
  14. I am 100% sure that Luz de Maria is fake. It is not so difficult to see it. Look to the details. If the antichrist is alive, I bet he's behind this new age thing. There are good messages there. It's the kind of message that catches catholic old ladies crazy about exciting messages.

    I am not sure about Edson Glauber, but there may have been demoniac interference at some point in the course of the apparitions.

    The last bishop Carillo Gritto who recognized the messages was a man of theology of liberation, without any mystical life, the type of man who wore civilian clothes and only knew about social justice. He recognizes the apparitions without the help of the commission, it was a personal and weak decision based on very weak evidence, being contrary to the rules of the church on the recognition of apparitions.

    I pass Edson Glauber for now. God bless him. He at least seems to be humble. I hope it is a true apparition and the truth will surface one day.
     

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