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  1. AED

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    These are sobering words Padraig but comforting too. I have taken to offering the suffering of my death ahead of time in case I have no time at that time.;)
     
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    The annual apparition of our Lady to Mirjana Dragicevic-Soldo on march 18, 2021

    The visionary Mirjana Dragicevic-Soldo had daily apparitions from June 24th 1981 to December 25th 1982. During the last daily apparition, Our Lady gave her the 10th secret, and told her that she would appear to her once a year, on the 18th of March. It has been this way through the years.

    ''Dear children
    In a motherly way I am calling you to return to the joy and the truth of the Gospel, to return to the love of my Son – because He is waiting for you with open arms; that everything you do in life you do with my Son, with love; that it may be blessed for you; so that your spirituality may be internal, and not just external.

    Only in that way will you be humble, generous, filled with love and joyful; and my motherly heart will rejoice with you. Thank you.''



     
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    SAME OLD SAME OLD :(o_O Nothing new here folks!:unsure:

    Today, March 18, 2021, on the Mirjana’s birthday, the Blessed Virgin Mary gave a new message to Medjugorje…

    “Dear children! Maternally I invite you to return to the joy and truth of the Gospel. To return to the love of my Son, since He awaits you with open arms. So that everything you do in life you do with my Son, with love . So that you are blessed. So that your spirituality is internal, and not just external. Only in this way will you be humble, generous, filled with love and joyful. And my maternal heart will rejoice with you. Thank you.”
     
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  4. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    I do remember hearing Mirjana saying what would happen would be like when we spring clean the house.

    First we empty things out and move furniture to get behind it and give everything a good clean. What we are seeing is a total mess with the governments and the Church. This sort of looks like what Mirjana was talking about.

    I don't know where a deteriorating mentally Putin or senile Biden fit in. But between them and the poor Holy Father we are in one hell of a mess.
     
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    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    Shame on us if the Blessed Virgin Mary is still repeating the same advice after 40 years. If we listened and did as she asked, the Triumph of her Immaculate Heart would have already happened.

    NEW happens when enough of us respond and do as Blessed Mother asks. More war war and less jaw jaw as Churchill once said.

    Thank you Blessed Mother for not giving up on us even if we are as thick as two short planks. You still keep trying Blessed Mother even if it means trying to make a square out of a circle. Forgive us and ask Jesus to forgive us too. Without Him, we are stuffed.
     
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    If you had access to someone with infinite wisdom wouldn't you want a more inspiring and helpful message, especially with all the problems we are seeing with the governments and the church?

    A commission on Medjugorje established in 2010 by Pope Benedict XVI and chaired by Cardinal Camillo Ruini voted 13-1 to confirm the supernatural origin of the first seven occurrences of the apparition only. I wonder if this is because the messages have been so similar since then.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    I personally do not think the medj messages are meant for people who are already on the path of conversion which if you are a regular poster here you probably are. The messages, especially to mirjana, are meant to move people onto that path of conversion. Once you are on the path in a committed way you don't need to read the messages regularly and I don't really think you are the target audience anymore. Even today there is someone reading a medj message for the first time who will hopefully make the personal decision to convert. It is not repetitive for them.

    As for getting insight into dealing with the problems of today...I personally think once you become firmly committed to growing in holiness and are spending quality time with Jesus and Mary...they will reveal to you what you need to know. If nothing is revealed to you then you probably don't need to know anything right now and are being asked to trust. I do think this is available to all of us but it helps if your are firmly committed to conversion and strive down this path daily in a very determineded way.
     
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    Actually, indaiatubano, the problem in the world, and more particularly in the Church, is that the above message is the essence of the Gospel, and is not being lived out in the daily lives of most Catholics, hence the repitition:

    So that everything you do in life you do with my Son, with love...So that your spirituality is internal, and not just external. Only in this way will you be humble, generous, filled with love and joyful.

    The daily grind of Catholic life is what it is all about...I've been involved in the Charismatic Renewal, Marian devotions, family prayer groups...but it is perseverance in my Faith, lived on a daily basis, from which the victory shall spring. Our Lady is looking for souls to pick up their crosses and follow after her Son! The joy which springs forth from such a daily struggle is never superficial, and always inspiring!

    Holy Mary, Mother of God!
     
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    Ah, PS, if I had read your post before I started typing, I wouldn't have bothered...well said!:LOL:

    Safe in the Father's Arms!
     
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    Mirjana’s annual message:

    March 18, 2021


    “Dear children! In a motherly way I am calling you to return to the joy and the truth of the Gospel, to return to the love of my Son – because He is waiting for you with open arms; that everything you do in life you do with my Son, with love; that it may be blessed for you; so that your spirituality may be internal, and not just external. Only in that way will you be humble, generous, filled with love and joyful; and my motherly heart will rejoice with you. Thank you.”

    Sorry for reposting this. I just saw that it was already posted two times, but it’s never too much to repeatedly ponder Our Lady’s Words. For me this message was very enlightening. What is highlighted by Mario is worth pondering.
     
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    Exactly. Precisely.
     
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    a beautiful mother will always warn her children from danger in the simplest of ways....so as not to be misconstrued....so I think the apparitions that tell us things that sound like they are out of the daily news are terribly off. This is not Super 8 ball....this is a Mother who loves her children so much she speaks in the simplest, most humble of ways.
     
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    That's what mothers do, they repeat themselves over and over and over, because most of the time their children don't listen.

    If my son asked for a more inspiring and helpful message every time I asked him to tidy his room he'd likely receive a clip round the ear, but thankfully our Blessed Mother is an infinitely kinder, holier and more patient mother than me!
     
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    I understand the Replies! The problem is with all these messages nothing is really changing. When Pope John Paul II visited Ireland in 1979, 80% of the population went to mass and now only 30% go. The number of new trainee priests at Maynooth is at a record low. I am sure it is the same in other countries. It would be nice to know where we are going wrong and how can we fix the problem.
    Should we take the Eucharist on our tongue or in our hands?
    Is the Latin mass correct or the Novus ordo?
    Who is the correct pope or do we have two?
    etc.
    I am sure Our lady could help us easily to solve these issues.o_O;)(y)
     
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    In the early stage of the apparitions an atheist psychologist ended up believing in the apparitions. When asked why, he said because Mary acted like a real mother, always on time and repeating her instructions to her children. I remember the story of a nun who was complaining of her sewing and dropping her pins, Jesus talked about doing our daily chores without complaining and saving souls and said pick up a pin, save a soul. Are all of us doing our daily duties with Jesus, without complaining? Jesus told sister Lucia of Fatima that 'The sacrifice required of every person is the fulfillment of his duties in life and the observance of My Law. This is the penance that I now seek and require."
    Our Blessed Mother gives us a blueprint on how to do this


    So that everything you do in life you do with my Son, with love...So that your spirituality is internal, and not just external. Only in this way will you be humble, generous, filled with love and joyful.

    Early Christians were Joyful in living the truth of the gospel, so must we be.

    Imagine the conversions!
     
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    It's true that the messages fro Medugorje (and other ongoing sites) can appear repetitive and I don't claim to follow every single one. I am more inclined to dip in from time to time.

    Some of them however are real eye openers. I was reading one the other day in which Our Lady showed them Heaven, Hell and Purgatory.

    Apparently there was one blond young girl, beautiful who went into the fires of hell and emerged totally black like a monster complete with horns and a tail. I find this account fascinating. Also in line with other mystics down the centuries.

    The account of Purgatory I also found compelling. As if people were wandering in a mist.

    https://mysticpost.com/2021/03/medj...make-sure-you-are-ready-for-what-will-happen/

    Medjugorje Today March 15, 2021 – Marija reveals why Our Lady showed her, Heaven, hell and purgatory. Make sure you are ready for what will happen.
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    Our Lady wants us to think of Heaven, Hell and of Purgatory. She said our life will be very different, our attitude toward life will be very different, when we think of the life after this one. And she said we shall really, truly understand that this life is only passing like a flower, and that here we are in this world in a passing path. This is why she urges us: enjoy it….that we may live this short life in joy; that we may understand, as it says in the Bible…that we are truly on a path that we’re only passing by. This is why Our Lady showed Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. To show us that these realities exist.
    Medjugorje visionaries have been shown views of hell and purgatory. Giving her testimony before a packed cathedral, the visionary Marija explained what the Virgin Mary has told (and shown) them about the afterlife.
    Heaven, according to the Medjugorje visionaries, is a huge place of great lights, beauty, and immense joy. Meadows, mountains, hills, beautiful countrysides are all present; people possess an inner light, a serene joy radiates from their presence.
    “She said that there are so many people who do not believe that there is Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory.”

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    Purgatory is a very sad and chilling place. The visionary described it as a misty area with gray fog through which people could be heard trembling, weeping, moaning, and where an extreme loneliness permeates the sadness of the atmosphere. Hell is even more disturbing. The visionaries have described it as a vast place with many people and a great sea of fire in the center. According to the visionaries, the people in Hell are enraged, cursing, ugly, occupied with unending anger. They enter the torturous fires naked and come out horrific, no longer in human shape, in vastly darkened, blackened skin.
    With Medjugorje, there is a purpose to the Virgin Mary showing the visionaries not just heaven, but hell and purgatory as well.




    Marija says it is important that we understand that Heaven and hell are real. She says: “And through the message that she gave us she said that our lives must be like a flower, and that we are here just in a passing way. Only eternal life does not pass. For that reason she urges us, and she asks us, to think more of the spiritual life and of paradise.
    She wants us to think of Hell and of Purgatory. She said our life will be very different, our attitude toward life will be very different, when we think of the life after this one. And she said we shall really, truly understand that this life is only passing like a flower, and that here we are in this world in a passing path. This is why she urges us: enjoy it….that we may live this short life in joy; that we may understand, as it says in the Bible…that we are truly on a path that we’re only passing by. This is why Our Lady showed Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. To show us that these realities exist.

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    Vicka describes Hell
    Vicka: Yes, yes. Hell is like when you see a person, for example a blonde girl, who is normal before entering the fire.But when she goes down into the fire and then comes back up, she changes into a beast, as if she had never been a person. Father Livio: Marija told us, in the interview with Radio Maria, that when Our Lady showed you Hell during the apparition without bringing you to the afterlife, this blonde girl, when she came out of the fire, also had the horns and the tail.Is that it? Vicka: Yes, it’s just a way of being like demons. It is a transformation that happens quickly. Before falling down into the fire, they are normal and when they come back on they are transformed.
    Our Lady told us: “These people who are here in Hell have gone there with their own will, because they wanted to go there.Those people who here on earth go against God already begin to live in Hell and then only continue “.
     
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    Isn’t that the truth!
     
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    Latest Medjugorje Message, March 25, 2021

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    “Dear Children! Also today I am with you to tell you: Little children, who prays does not fear the future and does not lose hope. You are chosen to carry joy and peace, because you are mine. I have come here with the name 'Queen of Peace' because the devil wants peacelessness and war, he wants to fill your heart with fear of the future - but the future is God's. That is why, be humble and pray, and surrender everything into the hands of the Most High Who created you. Thank you for having responded to my call.
     
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    This is what stands out to me.

    No worries! God's got this! Quit the fear. Don't let those who try to manipulate us with their mongering win.
     
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