In fairness I always say Father Malachi because many deny his priesthood. I picked MM from you as it was easier to write
OK. And For your Penance, please to refrain from saying "MM" no matter what the circumstance.. <jest kidding> "Malachi Martin" is not an uncommon usage.. And As to his supposed being laicized, I don't know; nor have I ever had any extra desire to pursue or involve in that particular controversy.
What do we know? I know what MM said to me.. And another claims that Fr. Amorth agrees. Lucifer and Satan are not one and the same.. Luciferianism has crept into some corridors of the Catholic Church I recall some rad trad nuns being very Non Serviam! Which is something Lucifer is claimed to peddle There's been other incidents connected with the Vatican (and some Jesuits) which have been attributed to Luciferianism.. AND? Most/All? here appear to agree that Satan and Lucifer are the same creature..
Without a doubt, I am sure Malachi Martin would have readily agreed with you, wholeheartedly, that Jesus should be everyone's "Goto." There's no disputing that.
Sticking just on "Jesus should be everyone's "GOTO" .. I agree.. But IS JESUS every so-called Christian's clearcut GOTO in praxis?
Yes, I do recall having heard that distinction on one of the Art Bell interviews, but I didn't really think much of it. After all, I remember reading a book, years back, entitled "The Devil Rocked Her Cradle" authored by David St. Clair, based on a reported exorcism that took place in Earling, Iowa in 1928. A Capuchin exorcist, the Rev. Theophilus Riesinger, assisted by a local priest, Fr. Joseph Steiger, conducted the grueling exorcism. One of demons that possessed the unfortunate victim identified itself as “Beelzebub,” reportedly another name for “Satan,” but turns out that they are not one and the same, if the story is to be believed. “Lucifer” shows up at one point along with “Beelzebub,” which might further add to the confusion. That being said, I don’t think it matters much, this claim by Malachi Martin that “Satan” and “Lucifer” are two distinct entities. Would it alter how we conduct our lives as Catholics? I think not.
Well, he’s made some astonishing claims over the years—chief among them, he being a participant in assisting during numerous exorcisms over the span of decades. Either this claim is true or it isn’t. If Malachi was indeed a bonafide exorcist, it’s not up me to disagree with his assertion regarding Lucifer and Satan.
Bonafide exorcist or not, ... making assertions which have been shown with evidences by others to be false, allows us to disagree and reject.. When an especially world-renowned Exorcist tells that... It makes us wonder more about Luciferianism and MM and exorcists It raises alarum bells, and changes how we therefore used to use MM as a super source during 'apparitional' and 'other' discussions on Catholic Forums.
Raises alarm bells? For what? Either way, it doesn’t necessarily influence my thoughts, actions, and behaviors as a Catholic. I would think that on a scale of 1 to 10, this would be no greater than a 1 or 2 as far as controversial claims made by Malachi Martin—certainly nothing like the main topic of this thread, which is the Third Fatima Secret.
For MM, Prominent Exorcist, to say that at exorcisms he recognizes two different distinct spirits, Lucifer, and, Satan.. and that between the two, Lucifer is superior to Satan, as Lucifer is, "the chief cook and bottle washer"! Hmmm... Only 1 to 2 out of a scale of 1 to 10 of Controversial Claims made by Malachi Martin.. ? ... Other Controversies.. ? Hmmm... Third Fatima Secret? Recall: Malachi Martin has been allegedly claimed by some to be privy to the 'real' Third Fatima Secret....
Below is a very recent interview of Father Paul Kramer, of the Fatima Center, by Father David Nix regarding Fatima and the 3rd secret. Some highlights: https://padreperegrino.org/2022/07/tce46/ - Father Kramer does not believe the consecration has been successfully completed. - Father Kramer does not believe Pope Francis is a valid pope. - The text of the 3rd secret addresses apostasy within the Church from the top down. This apostasy was greatly enabled by changes to the Mass made following Vatican 2. - Padre Pio was told the 3rd secret by the Blessed Mother in person. This is known through a book about Father Gabriel Amorth, the chief exorcist of Rome, written by Zavala. Father Amorth and Padre Pio were close friends. - Father K says the Fatima seer Jacinta talked about seeing a worldwide famine during the last vision given to the children. He believes it's on our doorstep. - When the consecration is validly made, Russia will immediately convert to Catholicism. This process will not take decades or years because God wants the world to know this has occurred through the Immaculate Heart of Mary. - The Orthodox mass has been maintained in the same form since the time of St. John Chrysostom. So we can use it after the consecration and triumph.
Very interesting, after the reunification of the churches, will the divine liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom be predominant in churches around the world?
Famine in Scripture refers to Lack of Food Supplies - Generally caused by drought / pestilence Currently, due to Western Sanctions against Russian Goods - Famine's been exacerbated by a blockage of Russian Foodstuffs and Fertilizer and Energy needs for food producution - to the West
Sunnyveil, Thank you for posting this. I don't think that I agree with everything that is stated but I don't have the answers either. I suppose that I wish that Father Gruner was still alive because he believed in both Fatima and Garabandal, as did Padre Pio who is also mentioned in this video. I believe that it is stated in the video that Padre Pio said that when Russia is properly consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart the conversion of Russia would be immediate, miraculous but since I believe in the prophecies of Our Lady of Garabandal and Our Lady of Fatima told us that the errors of Russia would spread, it makes sense to me that the Warning and the Miracle are required for the world including Russia to convert. Father Kramer states that Our Lady did not state that the consecration "will be too late" but just late, idk. I was reading through a thread here yesterday about how Sister Lucia stated that the 3rd secret is in the Book of Revelations (chapters 8-13) and I thought about commenting but I never did. It is a very good discussion and is somewhat related to this video, imho. I recall Malachi Martin being asked about the 3rd secret over and over again, if it is this or that but he always stated no, it is far worse or something to that effect. I think that it might be very dangerous for us to state what Father Kramer has stated about Pope Francis in this video and I am aware of what a mystic recently stated about the pope (ref. lifesitenews video posted on signs thread maybe). I also came across the following from an interview with Mari Loli yesterday, she appears to be stating that the Chastisement (punishment) is the takeover of the Vatican by communists (maybe not a violent revolution or maybe, idk): It was then that I put Mari-Loli to the test to see if she would tell me what The Great Punishment would be that the Blessed Mother talked to them about and why they had cried. She said she could not tell me, but I kept on insisting and she repeatedly told me, "I can't tell you, I can't tell you." Finally, I told her, "Go to the chapel and there decide whether or not you are going to tell me." After being in the chapel for an hour, she came out with a holy card in her hand. She gave it to me and then ran away. The word "COMMUNISM" was written on the card. I stood there looking at the word "COMMUNISM," and I thought to myself: "This does not tell me anything." Later I told Loli: "You have to explain this to me." Then she said, "The Blessed Mother has shown us how Communism will enter into the Church, and this is The Great Punishment. When we saw the consequences, this is what made us cry." http://www.garabandal.org/vigil/J_A_1988/Father_Morelos_1988.shtml So, is this what Sister Lucia was referring to when she stated that the 3rd secret is in the Book of Revelations (chapters 8-13)? Is what we are experiencing now a precursor? I think so. It can't be the Chastisement spoken of by Our Lady of Garabandal because we are still waiting for the Warning and the Miracle, right? I think that it is quite possible that Father Kramer is a little ahead of himself but only God knows and I think of what Mari Loli also stated, "God does not want this to happen so quickly". These are my thoughts, I am interested in hearing others thoughts. Edited to add: I came across a post from Glenn which helps clarify what the pre-Warning time will be like. Here it is #4089 .
I believe the third secret is apostasy and that there's no forgiveness of sins for the last three and a half years
