Fascinating isn’t it. Watching history pass us by, and knowing we are the generation of Revelations. Many changes are coming. May God have mercy, and may her triumph come soon.
That is exactly what occurred to me when the Coronation Communion Liturgy started! On SkyNews the commentator reminded the audience that the Bread and Wine was "a symbol" or "resemblance" of the "Body and Blood of Jesus Christ". But the similarity with the Novus Ordo Liturgy of the Eucharist was very evident. I noted also that the Archbishop of Cabterbury spoke about the "once-and-for-all Sacrifice of Christ" which was sufficient to cover the sins of all people [not "for you and for many"]. I have to say that our Parish priest offers a very reverent Novus Ordo Mass, but I have rarely ever seen anyone in our Churches reveive Holy Communion kneeling and on the tongue, and that includes myself. As I learn more, it is clear to me that the Novus Ordo was formulated to bring the Catholic Mass into line with the Anglican Protestant Mass. It is an ecumenical Mass. In the Mass of the ages there were 4 aspects (if that term can be used): Petition, Thanksgiving, Adoration and Reparation. It is clear that Adoration and Reparation were removed to a significant extent in the Novus Ordo Mass of St. Paul VI, leaving only Petition and Thanksgiving. Also the concept of the Propitiatory Sacrifice and Redemptive suffering of Jesus on Calvary is lost or very much de-emphasised. I also find it distasteful in the Novus Ordo to proclaim this mystery of Faith antiphon directly after the Trans-substantiation: "When we eat this bread [sic] and drink this cup [sic], we proclaim your death, O Lord, until you come again." It seems to be designed to weaken our Faith in the real presence of the sacrificed Body and Blood of Our Redeemer. What struck me in this article was the detestable nature of this progressivist thought of Aline and Alain Weidert (2022) (see article below): "If we want to be able to offer a tasty Christian faith and practice in the future, we must venture, by reflection and formation, to discover an as yet unexplored (untapped) font of salvation opened by Jesus, not first by his death against (“on account of”) sins but by his existence as Covenant. “For His humanity, united with the person of the Word, was the instrument of our salvation” (Vatican II, Sacrosanctum concilium, no. 5). The choice is clear! It is not between different religious sensitivities and aesthetics but between endless sacrifices to erase sins and Eucharists [sic] that seal the Covenant/Christ.” https://www.tfp.org/cardinals-roche...i-corresponds-to-a-new-theology/?PKG=TFPE3077
I agree. That watered down prayer after the consecration bothers me. I often make an act of love to the Real Presence of Jesus silently.
From post #103: I also find it distasteful in the Novus Ordo to proclaim this mystery of Faith antiphon directly after the Trans-substantiation: "When we eat this bread [sic] and drink this cup [sic], we proclaim your death, O Lord, until you come again." It seems to be designed to weaken our Faith in the real presence of the sacrificed Body and Blood of Our Redeemer. ________________________________________________________ When considering the above regret, InVeritatem, we first must realize it is almost an exact quote from 1 Cor 11: 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. However, if one looks at the whole passage, a clear defense of the Real Presence emerges: 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. 27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. There is a MOG thread which referenced an article (can't find it), that accents the beauty of St. Paul's insight. Let's follow Paul's logic which highlights the Real Presence: 1) If I receive only the Sacred Host, but in an unworthy manner, I profane both Christ's Body & Blood. 2) If I receive only from the Cup, but in an unworthy manner, I profane both Christ's Body & Blood. So what Paul is actually claiming is that each species ("bread" or "wine") contains the whole Person of Christ, and therefore retains only the accidents of bread and wine. However, you are right that in referencing only v. 26 in the Acclamation, the fullness of the truth that Paul intends is lost. Most Catholics are not able to understand the acclamation in the context of all three verses because they haven't read the whole passage. Jesus, I love you in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar!
What bothers me about the new mass is the structure of an altar with chairs behind it, which reminds me of the interior of a Masonic temple.
I get the feeling that Charles was chosen because his son is not fully under the thumb of world rulers. And if Charles' health is like that of his parents, his reign could last 20+ years! Notice how these people rarely get cancer or other terrible diseases and live very long lives. What do they know that we don't? Since everything is being placed under one big global banner and the coronation is part of it all, I can only hope and pray that the Lord will convert one of the leaders in place at some point, like he did with the emperor Constantine. I guess we should be praying for the conversion of our leaders.
Sharing this article which I just got from a friend where we can read this: Father Mark Vickers, a priest of the Diocese of Westminster and a historian and author, said that despite the Protestant nature of the proceedings — including the king’s oath — Catholics can and should pray for the king and rejoice in the fact the ceremony is so explicitly Christian. “The imagery and the symbolism and much of the language is that of the Catholic, medieval coronation service,” he said. “I think we should be very happy [about this] very explicit Christian prayer for our new head of state, and this is going to be televised to millions and millions of people across the world.” Within the coronation liturgy, numerous symbols soaked with Christian meaning will be present, including pieces of “regalia” that may seem odd to the untrained eye but speak to the religious nature of the monarch’s role.
When the king holds the golden orb with the cross at the coronation (representing the Christian world), it reminds me of the iconography that represents Christ with the orb (world) in his hands.
Fortunately, the only object behind the altars in the two parishes I'm connected to, is the Tabernacle! O Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly. I offer Thee the most precious Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifference by which He is offended. By the infinite merits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg the conversion of poor sinners.
Thank you for this excellent Catechesis, Mario. I am not expert in this at all but I have a feeling that the early Church did not fully grasp the enormity of what Jesus did at the Last Supper; that it took centuries for the Holy Spirit to guide the Church into the whole truth. Didn't Jesus say to the apostles that He had many things to tell them but that they would not be able for it. That is why He asked the Father to send the Holy Spirit. I remember reading a quote from St. Justin Martyr about 100 A.D.. Sorry I don't have it to hand. It gave me the impression that he did not yet grasp the enormity of the Trans-substantiation. I hope we are not in danger of losing the Eucharistic Theology which developed in the Church (about 300 A.D. ?) and was maintained for a millenium plus before the changes at Vatican II.
“St. Edmund Campion: “I pronounced a great day… wherein the terrible Judge should reveal all men’s consciences and try every man of each kind of religion. This is the day of change, this is the Great Day which I threatened, comfortable to the well-being, and terrible to all heretics. (Cobbett’s Complete Collection of State Trials…, Vol. I, p. 1063.)”
