King Charles III

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  1. padraig

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    But everything that happens is in the Design of Providence. The Blood of the Martyrs is the Foundation of the Church. The fact that the Church in Ireland was so heavily persecuted for centuries led to its purification. When the English under Strongbow first invaded Ireland the Monasteries were in a state of degeneration, for instance monks invented whiskey, the water of life and had become too fond of it; they often had , 'wives' who lived with them. The Church had become too rich and powerful ..as it is today..and was rotting on the vine.

    The persecution purified her, rather like an athlete who runs off the fat and when it ended the Church burst forth on Glory enabling her to help spread its bounty over the entire planet.

    I expect one day to see the same fruits from the Church in China, for instance.

    Now the Church in Ireland became rich and powerful once again and rotted on the vine.

    Now we must expect a new pruning. A new persecution.

    In a sad, wonderful kind of way we must thank the English, they were the instrument of God's wrath and through the blood they shed led us back to Christ.
     
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    It’s everywhere. Americans don’t even know who or what it means to be an American - your posting in the time for a laugh proves it.
     
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    We’ve been robbed and deliberately deceived.
     
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    The British King is Woke as they come, with all that that entails.

    Like many of the super rich he appears to have taken Woke up as some kind of hobby or quasi religion.

    He is not the brightest mind that ever walked the Earth. None of the Windsors were. Not has he ever showed the slightest interest in the ten commandments in his personal sexual life. He is, effectively a Pagan....and a super Woke one.
     
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    I have an issue with splinters from the cross of Christ being carried by an unrepentant adulterer. :confused:

    Idk I might even have issues with a non Catholic carrying it but that wasn’t my first thought. I could I think be persuaded that a non Catholic could. I would have to think more on it (n)
     
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    It's all about being nice and getting along.

    Jesus was the exact opposite of being nice and getting along.

    John the Baptist was never nice to Royality. Hence he was minus his head.
     
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    Again, in fairness to Pope Francis I have not seen any Catholic Bishop in any relevant country rebuking King Charles for the huge, huge public scandal he has given. They had many, many years to do so and remained totally silent.

    Better not to make waves.

    Better not to rock a very big boat.

    Better to be nice.

    Better to stay silent and not take risks.
     
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    Such are these days so like the end of the Roman Empire.
     
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    Here is Dr. Gavin Ashenden (Catholic convert and former Anglican Bishop) criticising King Charles in an ultra, ultra nice way. But at least he is saying something.

     
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    He is wonderful

    The English are very understated. This is the English equivalent of him hitting the King on the head with a sledgehammer
     
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    I have to say I think his analysis and mode of delivery is excellent in its clarity and depth and truth. I do think that if King Charles and others in the Anglican Faith are going to receive and contemplate this message, it will only be from someone like Dr. Ashenden.

    It is interesting also that he states that YHWH, our Living God, is not the same as the god Allah. Our God is a loving God, while Allah is there only to accept the "the submission of the recalcitrant".

    I would add that "submission" is not to be excluded from our Faith in the Most Blessed Trinity. St. Louis Marie Grignon de Montfort says that we are ultimately to be slaves of Jesus Christ and that this may be expressed as being a slave of love to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
     
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    While it is salutary to be voluntary slaves of He who keeps us in being, Our Lord also taught us the Our Father.
     
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    Yes, a good summation on the topic. I would say, also, that just as Christ is our brother but also our Lord and Saviour, and just, as stated in Hebrews, that He did not grasp at equality with God but humbled himself as a slave, so we should not grasp at equality with Jesus as heirs to the Kindom of God, but rather as slaves to our Redeemer.
     
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    I kinda cling to the passage Psalm 8:5

    you have made him only a little lower than God and crowned him with glory and honor.


    yes we swim in the infinite sea of His Holy Will, but it is infinite as He Himself is infinite.

    I find the slave thing off putting.
     
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    The Spiritual Life reminds me of this.

    At the start it is like a man walking along a very narrow , Rocky rather dark canyon. In many ways it can seem trying and off putting.

    At one point, the Dark Night it may indeed turn into a very narrow , bad smelling tunnel of total darkness that he has to crawl along for many many years. But at the end he emerges into the most beautiful of all valleys, wide and gorgeous. A place of great freedom.

    As St Augustine famously wrote, 'Love and do as you will'
     
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    'Equality' is a very dangerous word, a tremendously destructive concept, as we can see all around us. It eventually levels everything down to that of the floor of Hell. Your wonderfully rational response to my earlier post ties things up very neatly. We creatures, created from nothing, would be nothing unless God willed it otherwise. As such, even the opportunity to offer ourselves as willing slaves is an unimaginable privilege. Yet, it is the infinite generosity of our God to accept us as wholly undeserving sons of The Father and brothers of The Christ (daughters/sisters is implicit in this sentence and it is tautology wrought from the 'equality' agenda that insists on tedious duplication). How happy the slave who knows his Master loves him so. Such a slave is truly a prince.
     
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    On the subject of King Charles, he is a very complex person. An austere childhood and schooling at a place where he was extremely ill suited formed an insecure and depressive character who was nonetheless surrounded by toadies who rolled on the floor in hysterical laughter at his every weak joke. Neither situation is conducive to a healthy mindset.

    Two corrections to the first post: He claims to have been physically faithful in his marriage until it had broken down. I am inclined to believe him although he wasn’t emotionally faithful to his wife.

    Dumfries House was bought with Charles’ own money. I believe he had to take out a loan for some of it. He did a wonderful thing in saving the house and contents for the nation and it has brought employment and leisure to a depressed ex-mining area. It’s a place for training people in old skills, restoration and there is a park for locals to use. I don’t know if he stays there but even if he does, he has put in much more than he’s taken out. His Scottish home is Birkhall and he prefers it to any other home in Scotland.

    I am dismayed at the prospect of a coronation stripped of Christian meaning. The most important aspect is the anointing. Pagans and non-Christians don’t have such a concept. The invitation has a green man image. Does the King think to resurrect ancient tradition and if so will there be a sacrifice?

    Charles is said to be intrigued by the Orthodox faith and has been on retreat at Mount Athos several times. Let us pray that something deeper takes hold of him.

    But yes, I view the coming celebration with some dread. The Earl Marshal, the Duke of Norfolk, one of our most senior nobles and a Catholic, whose job it is to organise royal events (the late Queen’s funeral being one) has not been invited to the coronation, despite being involved in the planning. Horrible.

    Edit: the Earl Marshal will attend. So glad.
     
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