Russian troop build-up

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  1. Luan Ribeiro

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    in recent days Biden has been talking about tough economic sanctions if Russia goes ahead... so if the West doesn't react militarily in weeks after the invasion would Russia gain any strategic advantage to invade Europe in the intervening time?
     
  2. garabandal

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    If Russia invades after the Pope goes to Moscow it will fulfil yet another prophecy of Garabandal.
     
  3. Andy3

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    It's hard to know who is the problem and who isn't. The errors of Russia was communism. That is definitely all over the world now. I don't know what to make of Putin. Is he a white hat? Putin seems much more Christian than most world leaders but that doesn't mean he is good. I loved how he openly came out against the deep state and NWO saying they will never be allowed to happen in Russia and he will fight them. Is he fighting them now? Or, are they baiting him into war with Ukraine like they tried in the past. I don't think he will fall for the bait and this may all be war drums and rhetoric. There is no doubt in my mind, the evil people want war so badly. They wanted it badly in the past but Trump seemed to stop that plan if only temporarily. They want the war because they want the US to lose so the balance of global power can switch to China. Who knows really. These are just my own thoughts and theories on the matter.
     
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  4. Basto

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    I'm not saying that Putin won't make a massive invasion of Ukraine straight away, but that doesn't quite fit the policy he's made known to us so far. Putin is a geopolitical strategist and an expert in so-called hybrid warfare and propaganda. His line of action, so far, has been to undermine the neighboring country from the outside, providing weapons and logistical support to ethnic Russian rebels in Ukraine to make the war look like an internal factional or regional conflict where he only wants to help the oppressed by the western-friendly Ukrainian state.
     
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  5. Luan Ribeiro

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    does he believe the Russian economy would resist a full-scale war with Ukraine and perhaps NATO?
     
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  6. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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    Don't fret, Biden is planning to tell Ukraine to just cede some territory to Russia. I bet they do it too.

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/12/09/biden-russia-ukraine-putin/

    Anders Hagstrom White House Correspondent
    December 09, 2021 11:12 AM ET
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    President Joe Biden’s administration reportedly plans to push the Ukrainian government to appease Russian President Vladimir Putin by ceding territory, The Associated Press reported Thursday.

    Biden held a virtual meeting Tuesday with Putin, during which Biden threatened an “economic” response should Russia invade Ukraine. Russian troops have been amassing on Ukraine’s border for weeks, a nation that has long sought to join NATO but is unlikely to gain membership within the next decade, officials told AP. (RELATED: EXCLUSIVE: ‘Speak Loudly And Carry A Small Stick’: Republicans Blast Biden’s Response To Putin’s Escalation In Ukraine)

    U.S. officials reportedly plan to urge Ukraine to grant autonomy to eastern regions that are still controlled by separatists who participated in the 2014 Russia-backed revolt against the Ukrainian government. The eastern Donbas region has held a vague “special status” since the 2014 uprising, a status Ukrainian parliament voted to extend for another year on Dec. 3.

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    President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin meet during a summit on June 16 in Geneva, Switzerland. (Peter Klaunzer/Pool/Keystone via Getty Images)

    Biden has previously confirmed that deploying U.S. troops to help Ukraine fend off an invasion is not on the table, focusing instead on economic sanctions.

    “We have a moral obligation and a legal obligation to our NATO allies if they were to attack under Article 5, it’s a sacred obligation,” Biden said. “That obligation does not extend to NATO – I mean to Ukraine. But it would depend upon what rest of the NATO countries were willing to do as well. But the idea that the United States is going to unilaterally use force to confront Russia invading Ukraine is not on, in the cards right now. What will happen is there will be severe consequences.”

    The president’s critics have argued his stance on Ukraine is projecting a message of weakness to the world, and particularly to China. Reporters also pressed the White House on the message Biden’s Ukraine response may send to China at Tuesday’s press briefing. China has long mirrored Russia’s aggression toward Ukraine with its own threats to retake Taiwan by force.

    “Some observers have described a nightmare scenario where President Putin invades Ukraine and also simultaneously President Xi uses force to reunify Taiwan with China. Is the U.S. prepared to deal with such a scenario?” a reporter asked national security adviser Jake Sullivan.

    “The United States is going to take every action that we can take, from the point of view of both deterrence and diplomacy, to make sure that the Taiwan scenario you just described never happens, and to try to avert the invasion into Ukraine,” Sullivan said. “That is the object of our policy right now. Those are the steps we’re taking.”

    Russian troops continue to amass along the Ukrainian border, and U.S. intelligence officials believe that Moscow is prepping for a full-scale offensive against Ukraine as early as the next few weeks, according to The Washington Post.
     
  7. HeavenlyHosts

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    War is an economic boon to the war machine economy, too. You made some very good points.
     
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  8. Andy3

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    Indeed. They especially like to have wars at the end of economic systems to usher in a reason for the new one. I think we are at that point now. The Federal Reserve system has been in place for over 100 years now which is way past the norm for past central bank systems. These systems eventually run their course and they need to usher in a new one hint....the great reset. Without war, they can't hide the flaws of the current system that are becoming rather obvious to most economists like myself around the world. Look at the US. They want to begin to taper as well as increase rates. These actions will destroy the economic growth but they don't want the blame to this collapse in growth to be so obvious. They need a scapegoat to create the new system. War was the original plan, but that didn't work, so thus ding ding ding, global pandemic. Now that has not worked and economic growth around the world is booming but that nasty inflation monster is getting larger and larger. They need a new scapegoat, so the war drums are beating. War is very profitable to the globalists and their agendas. Buckle up folks!!!
     
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    Spot on.

    We are on the road to a cashless society with central bank digital currency.

    The vaccine passports will then be tied in with our banking and our health records and whatever else they want to put into the Digital ID System.
     
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    The US is looking to pass a vaccinated vs unvaccinated database. This is a huge invasion of personal health privacy and can't be called anything other than nefarious.
     
  11. Indy

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    That's the main agenda.
     
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  12. Basto

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    I think the only thing he believes in is his own will.
     
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  13. Basto

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    Is Mr. Putin trying to correct "a major geopolitical disaster of the century"?


    "Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself." (President Putin's Annual Address to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, April 25, 2005; The Kremlin, Moscow)


     
  14. Luan Ribeiro

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    Perhaps it's a silly question I'm going to ask: but is it possible that the US will react with a total economic embargo against Russia if the invasion takes place (since Biden has emphasized economic coercion as a resource).
     
  15. AED

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    Its hard to see this president do anything so strong or decisive quote honestly. But maybe he is only a figure head. I honestly don't know.
     
  16. Basto

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    Putin Laments Soviet Breakup as demise of "Historical Russia", amid Ukraine fears:

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has described the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 as the demise of "historical Russia," a comment that could fuel speculation about his foreign policy intentions amid a buildup of tens of thousands of Russian troops in regions bordering Ukraine.

    "It was the disintegration of historical Russia under the name of the Soviet Union," Putin said of the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union while speaking in a documentary film called Russia. Recent History that aired on state television on December 12.

    Putin, a former agent of the Soviet KGB security service, has previously lamented the collapse of the Soviet Union, calling it the "the greatest geopolitical disaster of the 20th century." The comments in the documentary, however, reveal how much he feels the disintegration of the Soviet Union devastated Russia's power.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-historical-russia-soviet-breakup-ukraine/31606186.html
     
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    Blessed Elena Aiello:

    Russia will march upon all the nations of Europe, particularly Italy, and will raise her flag over the dome of St. Peter.
     
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  18. Don_D

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    If we do something like this it will impact all of Europe. Russia holds the keys to Europes energy needs and Ukraine is criss crossed with it's pipelines. I don't think there is any way that this would be an option short of an all out declaration of war which is out of the question.
    I think it is much more likely that the administration will advise Ukrainian officials to cede those lands which are culturally and ethnically Russian.
     
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  19. Basto

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    On the Ukraine frontline

     
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    Would the Russian Orthodox see this as "a holy war" against the Bishop of Rome whom they consider an apostate, or would they be against this persecution?
     

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