Padraig, I had a long reply ready to post but my Guardian Angel must be watching out for me because I did something wrong and it disappeared. We can't call Pope Francis evil or possessed. Doing so endangers our own souls and I'm not putting my salvation at risk for the likes of him. We can judge his evil acts and there's no shortage of them, but that's as far as we can go. He probably thi ks he is being clever by whispering the odd orthodox comment to the choir. He can fool the choir but he can't fool God whether or not he actually believes in God. Pope Honorius 1 was condemned for far less than what Pope Francis has done and continues to do to the Faith. That he and lowlife like Leonardo Boff are soul mates tells us all we need to know about him. Have a look at about the 23:30 mark of this video. The "Jesus ate with sinners" excuse doesn't cover this:
I tried to expose Bernadin for 10 years. Malachi Martin said he was perfectly possessed. I did not hate him but prayed for him. I pray for this pope and hate him. I never hated anyone but now I do. Every day he disgusts me more and more. We don't understand him. It was mistranslated. Misunderstood. Blah blah blah. He and his Jesuit hacks and cronies are systematically dismantling the catholic church. It will just get worse, never better, as each day passes. People wake up as it goes. Everyone has a different threshold and gullibility. God will intervene one day. I am sure of that and pray every day.
Yes, Dr. Moynihan is a good man. But did he speak up when the Pope's scumbag friends were attacking the dubia Cardinals? Did he not notice the problem with Amoris Laetitia? If not why not? If he remained silent then, he shouldn't be surprised to see himself being cancelled now.
No. You mustn't hate him. That would be a win for the evil one. Even if he is an enemy of the Church, we can't hate him because he is made in the image and likeness of God. Our prayers will count for nothing if we have hatred in our hearts. Pity him because if he leads souls astray he will be judged more harshly than any other person. It is very likely that the real evil people are those who chose him and fed whatever sense of grievance he had against his superiors and the hierarchy, just as McCarrick knew how to butter him up promising that he could evangelise China.
Butter him up to evangelize China? To a pope who had a bishop from the Amazon representing him bragging how he hadn't baptized anyone in 50 years? Not buying it. More like billions of dollars good, suffering church bad. There is a saying that the church has grown from the blood of the martyrs. PF won't have none of that. Meets Jeffrey Sachs 57 times in a year but 0 times for Cardinal Zen. What a disgrace and total loser!
Yes: McCarrick was very shrewd. He had a lifetime's experience of knowing how to manipulate people. Telling a Jesuit Pope that he could be the one to succeed where Jesuits had failed in the past was a very clever move. There's a bit of history to the missionary activities in China not a whole lot different to the pachamama business. Something to do with the Chinese revering their ancestors and a dispute between missionaries about it. Pope Francis is desperate for an invite to China - desperate enough to betray the faithful Catholics there. McCarrick would have known that.
I worry with great sadness about how many Catholics are leaving the Church at the moment. A recent survey in the USA showed that one third of Catholics are considering leaving. I would say a lot or most of this can be left at the feet of Pope Francis. I don't have to be a Doctor to have a good idea when someone has cancer. I would not venture to treat them, but you get a good idea after a while. The same thing goes with the active presence of the devil. I would not be taking out the Roman Ritual to perform the Rite, but I 've seen enough and read enough in my time to know true evil when I meet it. They guys actively destroying the Church and he's not stumbling about doing it by accident. Probably one of the most evil actions in the entire history of the world. He makes folks like Hitler, Stalin and Nero look like boy scouts by comparison. So I'm very comfortable with calling a spade a spade in this regards.
I suppose it depends on where they are going. If they are leaving the Eucharist because we have a bad Pope their faith must have been very weak. Pope Francis and all the spirit of Vatican 11 crowd share the blame for the poor catechesis and watering down of the Faith since the Council but it isn't all his fault. There are some horrible Bishops in the US and Pope Francis brings out the worst in them. They have some good Bishops too. Sadly, not enough to outweigh the bad and lukewarm ones. One of the bad ones tweeted a very sinister comment about Taylor Marshall. I think there's an element in the Church in the US that wants to drive him out of the Church. I hope he sticks it out. He's a good family man. May the Lord give him the grace to endure the trials.
Didn't he write to Pope Francis along those lines? I think Cardinal Parolin got a mention. According to this CNA report, he was friends with a Chinese Bishop who was a former Jesuit. They were old friends going back to the days when McCarrick was in Newark. It looks like the Jesuit left the Church to become a Bishop for the Chinese government and was later reconciled and made an official Bishop by Pope Benedict. That Bishop died in 2013. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/mccarricks-unofficial-role-in-vatican-china-relations-42192
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/mccarricks-unofficial-role-in-vatican-china-relations-42192 "Archbishop McCarrick’s unofficial role in Vatican-China relations Courtney Mares Vatican City, Sep 17, 2018 / 08:05 am MT (CNA).- Following reports that the Holy See and the People’s Republic of China could be about to sign an agreement on the appointment of bishops in the country, attention has turned to the role of Archbishop Theodore McCarrick in fostering Vatican-China relations over the last two decades. Over 20 years, Archbishop McCarrick traveled to China on at least eight occasions, sometimes staying in a state-controlled Beijing seminary, often serving as an unofficial bridge between the Vatican and Chinese government-appointed bishops until 2016. Prior to allegations of sexual abuse and harassment becoming public this summer, the former cardinal had been an outspoken proponent of a deal between Chinese President Xi Jinping and the Church under Pope Francis, according to Chinese reports. “I see a lot of things happening that would really open many doors because President Xi and his government are concerned about things that Pope Francis is concerned about,” McCarrick told The Global Times, in an exclusive interview in Feb. 2016. The interview quoted McCarrick as saying that the similarities between Pope Francis and Xi Jinping could be “a special gift for the world.” The the state-approved Chinese newspaper also reported that McCarrick traveled to China in Feb. 2016 -- “a trip in which the cardinal said he would visit some ‘old friends.’” “His previous visits included meetings with Wang Zuo'an, head of the State Administration for Religious Affairs and late bishop Fu Tieshan, former president of Bishops’ Conference of the Catholic Church in China (BCCCC), an organization not recognized by the Holy See,” The Global Times reported. In June 2014, David Gibson reported in the Washington Post that McCarrick had traveled to China “in the past year” for “sensitive talks on religious freedom.” This detail aligns, in part, with the 11-page “testimony” of former apostolic nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Viganò recounted a meeting with McCarrick in June 2013, during which Vigano claims he was told by McCarrick, “The pope received me yesterday, tomorrow I am going to China.” McCarrick was hosted by the Beijing seminary during at least two trips to China, according to a 2006 State Department document made available via Wikileaks. The vice-rector of a Communist-approved seminary, Fr. Shu-Jie Chen, described twice hosting McCarrick in an account found in a cable from Christopher Sandrolini, Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy to the Holy See. Chen described himself as “king” of the seminary, saying that he “could do what he wanted within its walls.” Sandrolini also noted that the vice rector “downplayed persecution of the underground Church,” calling the underground church “uneducated” and “elderly.” He said that Chen seemed “unconcerned” that “evangelization was not an option for official religious personnel. A cable from U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican Francis Rooney in March 2006 noted that Archbishop Claudio Celli, who was at that time the Holy See’s principal China negotiator, insisted that McCarrick was not in a position to negotiate with China and that his visits to China were “unofficial.” There appears to be a gap between McCarrick’s trips to China between 2006 and 2013, though McCarrick’s influence was still active. In 2009, the archbishop had a message relayed to a friend in China through Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House of Representatives. Pelosi conveyed McCarrick’s greetings to Bishop Aloysius Jin of Shanghai, formerly a leading Chinese Jesuit. “She [Pelosi] relayed Cardinal McCarrick's good wishes to Bishop Jin. Bishop Jin said he and Cardinal McCarrick had exchanged visits, beginning when the latter was Bishop of Newark,” the State Department cable reads. During McCarrick’s time as Archbishop of Newark, Aloysius Jin Luxian was not recognized as a bishop by the Vatican. He was ordained a coadjutor bishop of Shanghai without papal approval in 1985, his position was not recognized by the Vatican until 2004. Bishop Jin died in 2013. A 2007 article in The Atlantic described the close friendship between McCarrick and Jin, and how McCarrick claimed to have relayed messages from the Chinese government-appointed bishop to the pope in the 1990s. Both the State Department and Chinese media recorded a 1998 visit to China by Archbishop McCarrick. On that trip he was one of three American clerics to visit China to discuss religious freedom, meeting with Bishop Michael Fu Tieshan, vice-chairman of the Chinese Communist Party’s Standing Committee of the Chinese National People's Congress. Fu was made a bishop by Beijing 1979 without approval of the pope. Chinese media reported that McCarrick paid a visit to the National Seminary in Beijing in 1998. In Aug. 2, 2003, the South China Morning Post reported that McCarrick “spent three days in Beijing earlier this week on what was ostensibly a private visit.” McCarrick was “the first cardinal from a western country to visit the mainland since relations between China and the Vatican turned frosty after a dispute over canonisation in October 2000,” the article continued. In a Dec. 2003 State Department cable, U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican Jim Nicholson wrote that Vatican Office Director for China Monsignor Gianfranco Rota-Graziosi “did not expect concrete improvement stemming from the informal trip last summer of Washington Cardinal McCarrick to China.” On Sept. 14, the Wall Street Journal reported that the Holy See could be about to enter a deal with China which would include the recognition of seven illicitly consecrated bishops serving in the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association - a state-sponsored form of Catholicism whose leaders are chosen by Communist authorities. Reports of the Holy See and Chinese government working towards a formal agreement on the appointment of bishops have been circulating since January, 2018. At the same time, China has launched an increasing crackdown on religious practice in the country, demolishing churches and harassing worshippers." (emphases mine - SgC) Everything in the CNA report speaks of Communist tactics being employed, with no concern for evangelization at all. It acknowledges that China is cracking down on Christians and demolishing churches. McCarrick is quoted as saying that the similarities between Pope Francis and Xi Jinping could be “a special gift for the world" To date, the Vatican-China agreement is top secret. There is simply no way to look kindly upon PF's or McCarrick's motives. +
And you can rest assured Father Frank Pavone will not let America forget who Donald Trump is and what he did for America, Win or lose. Please God Abp Vigano will come to be recognised for his part in coming to the help of America in this diabolical phase of history. Keep Watch and Pray.
My guess is obvious, the rapid growth in the Chinese catholik church is over and the exodus will soon begin as Francis makes yet another compromise with the devil.
The worst thing I heard recently was a remark the Superior General of the Jesuits made. He was quoted something Jesus said in Scripture as an argument against some heretical goings on , to which He replied, 'How does anyone know what Jesus said? Was anyone there with a tape recorder?' Thus burying with a casual remark the inerrancy of Scripture. This sent chills down my back. Have we a Church really sunk so low? Clearly we have.
The unmasking of the wolves continues apace. I pray for Cardinal Zin and the faithful persecuted bishops and our faithful brothers and sisters in China. Bad enough to be threatened every day but then to have the institutional Church stab you in the back--how much more like Our Lord can they be. This is the "Triduum" for faithful priests and laity in China. The betrayal....and then Calvary. Do these faithless church men think the lion will eat them last. The pattern is the same. Henry VIII. Jacobin France, Stalin's Russia, Masonic Mexico same revolution different cast of players. Same (very few) brave Catholics. May God give all of us the strength to resist. And pray for our brothers and sisters who are already in the belly of the beast. St John Fisher pray for us All the martyrs of China and Vietnam Nam pray for us All the Russian Polish Hungarian martyrs pray for us May all the Mexican martyrs pray for us Blessed Miguel Pro intercede for us! (Feast on Monday 11/23) God have mercy on the Bride of Your Son. Rescue and restore her! In Jesus's Name through Mary's Immaculate Heart.
These are the fine folks the current pope and his associates have chosen to side with. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/431043/eyes-will-be-plucked-out-over-hong-kong-china-warns
