Vigano Being Vindicated

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  1. Dolours

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    I feel a deep sense of sadness when I see good people like Dr. Moynihan and Ralph Martin reluctantly shed the rose tinted spectacles. It brings to mind kids who find out there's no Santa. They tried so hard to see good where evil abounds but, being true believers, they can't bring themselves to be participants in an organised attack on the Faith.

    Who were the couple Dr. Moynihan said hosted Pope Francis the night before the Conclave? I recognised Tornielli's name but not the couple who had then-Cardinal Bergoglio over for dinner the night before the Conclave. Dr. Moynihan found out the hard way that accompaniment only applies to unrepentant rogues, scoundrels, perverts and sycophantic journalists. Have you noticed that the tactics of the Pope's magic circle are almost identical to those of the never Trumpers? The practice of regime change by fair means or foul probably has that effect on people who engage in it.
     
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  2. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    I hope and pray Abp. Vigano is right in his predictions, and putting my money where my mouth is in making preparation for Consecration on 12th December in honour of Our Lady of Guadalupe. She who came to end the culture of death in the Aztec world. That she may once again come to rescue the Americas from the new and modern culture of death. It can be found on the Consecration thread.

    Have included with my Consecration preparation a prayer asking God to confound the enemy trying to destroy the land of the free and the home of the brave, where so many Europeans fled when Europe was persecuting Roman Catholic Christians so many years ago historically, not to mention the millions of Irish who found a home in the Americas North and South, when the potato famine almost wiped them out. We all have a debt of gratitude to USA, and I pray they keep their freedom. With the help of God.

    Have surrendered all to Jesus, Whom I trust to take care of everything. Novena shared on the Forum.

    We all need to Keep Watch and Pray, for the soul of the Church as well as the soul of the Nations. I am sharing a Novena on the Forum to honour Jesus, King of all Nations ready for the feast of Christ the King, with Church and Nations in mind. Praise and Glory to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    Safe in the hearts of Jesus and Mary.
     
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  3. padraig

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    May God forgive me but the Holy Father reminds me of myself as a young man, before my conversion in so many ways. Looking back on it I was a total horror picture. But this helps me to understand his various dreadful goings on.

    However in one way he is so very different from me and this is in this clique thing. So Italian. Either you are , 'In' or you or , 'Out' Either you are a , 'Friend' or you're an , 'Enemy'. If you are a friend the sky is the limit. If you're marked down as an enemy , better go hang. Like some old Roman Emperor with a depraved court of sychophantic depraved eunuchs.

    I was too much of a loner for all this, 'You're my friend am I your friend ?' nonsense. Abominable.

    Reminds me of that famous scene from the film, 'The Robe'.

     
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    Oh, yes! I remember hearing that in an earlier interview. Thanks for the reminder. May it be so. I believe Vigano will continue to play a big role as will President Trump.
     
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  5. Dolours

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    I was wondering whether the pilgrims staying in Sta. Marta booked their rooms through Air BnB :D.

    It's anyone's guess what Pope Francis is really like. Even after being on the receiving end of the cancel culture, Dr. Moynihan still sees Pope Francis as a simple man. Joe Crozier said he's the best Pope in the history of the Church, which would make him better than St. Peter and all the martyred Popes! What I see is a manipulative narcissist with a vindictive streak and little or no supernatural faith. Whenever I try to give him the benefit of the doubt in the hope that he believes he is doing God's will, he comes out with another statement or action undermining all that he is bound to uphold, defend and pass on intact. He's in for a rude awakening if he believes that the God who sent His son to be persecuted for our redemption is happy with a billion people believing that a dopple ganger died on the cross and a better prophet happened along a few centuries later.

    What baffles me about the likes of Dr. Moynihan and Ralph Martin is that they seem to be genuinely surprised at how bad things are. How could they have missed the viscious, unwarranted and co-ordinated attack on Cardinal Burke? Also, they learned the same faith as us and have certificates to prove that they understand it. How did they miss the poison injected into the Amoris Laetitia footnote? Did they think that it's OK to ignore in pastoral practice any dogma the Pope doesn't like? I feel sad for them and for Bishops who must have seen the writing on the wall yet remained silent when they should have spoken out. Now they will be picked off one by one and there will be nobody to speak out for them. Having that dawn on them must be hard to live with. I hope that Patrick Coffin had a word,in Dr. Moynihan's ear and warned him that the "friend" most likely to have done the dirty on him is the one who said they were concerned about Archbishop Vigano's mental health. Dr, Moynihan should have reminded that "friend" of St. Anthony of the Desert's prophecy about the time to come when men will go mad.

    By the way, did you see Patrick Coffin's interview with Ralph Martin? That's worth watching if only for the revelation about Mrs.Speyr and her influence on von Balthasar. Hard to believe that Pope John Paul would have made him a Cardinal had God not pulled the plug on him. Lord have mercy on his soul.
     
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  6. Dolours

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    Yes, Julia, I have been praying the Novena to Christ the King. Pray for the conversion of China.

    Sometimes I wonder whether we wouldn't be better off knowing nothing about the scandals. Then it occurs to me that God must have a reason for all this coming to light in an age when true Church teaching is available to anyone with access to a library or the internet. Maybe the Lord is letting us know that it's time to prepare ourselves for the stage when even the elect would be deceived were that possible. We can't hold fast to a Faith being obscured by mixed messages and contradicted in pastoral practice unless we know that Faith and remember that the Truth will always be true even if nobody believes it. Maybe God is making it easier for us to distinguish between the faithful and faithless Shepherds. That could be the way God has chosen to answer our prayers. These are trying times. It's the month of the Holy Souls and we can't get a plenary indulgence because we have no access to the Sacraments.

    Dr. Moynihan seems to believe, as do I, that the katechon (restrainer) is somehow linked to Holy Mass.

    Fr. Nix has a series on the Catechism of Trent on his Padre Peregrino YouTube channel. Parents of young children might find it helpful because it is straightforward and covers the essentials.
     
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    The best insight I have gotten into the Holy Father was in reading the book, 'The Dictator Pope';

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07DFCN7KW/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

    It reminded of a very large Bio I read one time on Mao Tse Tung. In both cases I quit early . Why? Because both central characters were just so totally, totally horrible. It was a bit like a day out in the dump yard. My own take on the Holy Father (as with Mao Tse Tung) is that he is perfectly possessed by the devil and a very, very high level devil at that.

    By perfectly possessed I mean the individual cooperates and agrees to work with the evil spirit. In other words the Holy Fathers evil is of such an order that it is praeternatural and as evil as you ever find anywhere. Total, total wickedness of a very ,very high order indeed. Satanic in fact.

    I don't think you will find people Like Ralph Martin or Dr Moynihan even understanding what I am even talking about. :):)

    But this kind of thing is very well described in the book, 'People of the Lie', by Dr Scott Peck.

    In the case of the Holy Father this possession appears to have been there from a very early stage, which makes me suspect he was Satanically Consecrated at birth or before by some powerful Coven (or grouping of Covens).

    I know this sounds nuts, but anyway, I think he was kind of hand picked from birth for the Church by evil.


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    Yes, Padraig; I think it is nuts. I do believe the Holy Father's sponsorship of a new education model that concurs with his push for fraternity among religions, is off the deep end. But I don't believe this and all the other horrors, substantiates your claim that the Holy Father is possessed.

    It does remind me to repent and strive to abandon pride and ask the Holy Spirit to finish His work in my soul:

    Ephesians 1:16 I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 18 having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power in us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20 which he accomplished in Christ when he raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places...
     
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  9. picadillo

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    He knows exactly what he is doing. Destroying the one true faith. Mcarick, but hey who am I to judge.
     
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  10. Dolours

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    I have the Dictator Pope book. I didn't buy it and only skimmed through it. I'm a bit wary of any book when I'm not sure whether the author may be bringing political bias to internal Church matters.

    We really don't know the half of what goes on. There appear to be factions and factions within factions, all pushing and pulling against each other and all claiming to be on the side of good. I think we know now that Pope Francis was hand picked to head a Lutheran style reformation from the seat of St. Peter because they knew that only a Pope could pull it off. The people who picked him were clever. They were probably evil too. But that doesn't make him evil. We know that his Jesuit superiors saw a character flaw in him that they considered made him unsuitable to be a Bishop. That could have been the reason the reformers chose him. It looks like they had been grooming him for a very long time. He may genuinely believe that the Holy Spirit singled him out to "improve" the Church. If he has narcissistic tendencies, the people who handpicked him will have no problem playing him.

    He does seem to have some concern for the poor along with a chip on his shoulder about America and, to a lesser extent, Europe. I wonder whether it ever occurs to him that if he sets a precedent of discarding dogmas on marriage and sexual morality, deriding the very term "dogma" in the process, a future Pope could follow his example and discard the dogma of the labourer being worthy of his hire. Remove one load bearing stone from the foundation and eventually the entire structure could collapse. I think he is streetwise but he will never earn the title Doctor of the Church.

    I think that we won't get anything like a clear picture of what's going on until someone has the courage to look at the St. Gallen group, dissident Jesuits and their allies in Catholic academia, and starts seeing how they all connected to give us Pope Francis.
     
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    I am so sorry Terry. I am afraid he is gas lighting you. ..and millions of others. He's very good at that.
     
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    Purest evil. Evil walking.
     
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    No PF won't be a Doctor of the Church. I am not sure whether he is extremely cunning or rather dim. Didn't the St Gallen Mafia plot to have him succeed JPII in 2005 only for him to withdraw when it was clear that Ratzinger was strongly favoured? Francis' tools are ambiguity and confusion, he does dreadful things but can come out with some lovely words. One of his first acts was to lay flowers at a statue of Our Lady, but then he was rather rudely nonplussed at the idea of being given bouquets of thousands of rosaries. Had he really not come across this practice?

    I did read the Dictator Pope and found it most revealing. I had tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but doubt always remained. Some time ago on this site there was discussion about the sense of unease felt by many who watched the newly-elected Francis on the balcony. I had it myself but put it down to the fact that he isn't JPII or BXVI. I now think it may have been a sense of foreboding.

    I don't know if Francis is actually possessed - he's a slippery character in many ways and it's hard to pin him down as this or that. Wasn't he supposed to have performed an exorcism on a pilgrim in St Peter's Square? Houses divided and all that. What is certain is that he's an enabler of some very bad elements which we thought we'd seen the last of like Liberation Theology (Marxism in a dog collar). A dear friend used to refer to Modernists as 'old fashioned' because they seemed so entrenched in the 1970s. Alas they have been given new heart.

    Of all the abominations we have seen of late, I think the veneration of Pachamama may be the worst. A major breach of the First Commandment in the heart of Rome.
     
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    Ephesians 6:12
     
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    With the passing of time, my eyes have been opened to the truth and weight of this Scripture. It explains everything.
     
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  17. Absolutely concur, HH.

    And because of what it does indeed say, Padraig, we will NEVER be able to wrap our rational minds completely around their activities. We know OF them, their existence and how they may choose to operate, but no one can unequivocally assign their having taken residence in someone’s person unless one is an exorcist working on a case. We just do not know and should never presume that authority.

    And, Dolours, I watched from time to time over the years how Dr. Moynihan gradually became more and more able to recognize what was going on in the Vatican. He is a humble man and I admire him for his work and his approach. He knows a lot more than either you or I ever will about all the machinations going on inside it
     
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    Who ultimately has the last word? God alone. No President. No Pope. Not even the Man of Lawlessness. Only Jesus Christ. Lord of Lords. King of Kings! We may differ on the Pope.

    But the whole of Friday's Evening Prayer acknowledges who alone sits on the Throne: the Holy One of Israel. The Holy One of the New Israel!

    God, + come to my assistance.
    – Lord, make haste to help me.

    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit:
    – as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be for ever. Amen. Alleluia.


    HYMN

    Crown him with many crowns,
    The lamb upon his throne;
    Hark! how the heav’nly anthem drowns
    All music but its own:
    Awake, my soul and sing
    Of him who died for thee,
    And hail him as thy matchless King
    Through all eternity.

    Crown him the Lord of Lords,
    Who over all doth reign,
    Who once on earth, the incarnate Word,
    For ransomed sinners slain,
    Now lives in realms of light,
    Where saints with angels sing
    Their songs before him day and night
    Their God, Redeemer, King.

    Crown him the Lord of heav’n
    Enthroned in worlds above;
    Crown him the King, to whom is giv’n
    The wondrous name of Love.
    Crown him with many crowns,
    As thrones before him fall,
    Crown him, ye kings, with many crowns,
    For he is King of all.

    PSALMODY

    Ant. 1 We will call him the peacemaker, and his throne shall stand firm for ever.

    Psalm 113
    Praise the name of the Lord


    He has cast down the mighty and has lifted up the lowly (Luke 1:52).

    Praise, O servants of the Lord, *
    praise the name of the Lord!
    May the name of the Lord be blessed *
    both now and for evermore!
    From the rising of the sun to its setting *
    praised be the name of the Lord!

    High above all nations is the Lord, *
    above the heavens his glory.
    Who is like the Lord, our God, *
    who has risen on high to his throne
    yet stoops from the heights to look down, *
    to look down upon heaven and earth?

    From the dust he lifts up the lowly, *
    from his misery he raises the poor
    to set him in the company of princes, *
    yes, with the princes of his people.
    To the childless wife he gives a home *
    and gladdens her heart with children.

    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, *
    and to the Holy Spirit:
    as it was in the beginning, is now, *
    and will be for ever. Amen.


    Psalm Prayer

    Lord Jesus, Word of God, surrendering the brightness of your glory you became man so that we may be raised from the dust to share your very being. May there be innumerable children of the Church to offer homage to your name from the rising of the sun to its setting.

    Ant. We will call him the peacemaker, and his throne shall stand firm for ever.

    Ant. 2 His kingdom will endure for ever, and all the kings of the earth will serve and obey him.

    Psalm 117
    Praise for God’s loving compassion


    I affirm that . . . the Gentile peoples are to praise God because of his mercy (Romans 15:8-9).

    O praise the Lord, all you nations, *
    acclaim him all you peoples!

    Strong is his love for us; *
    he is faithful for ever.


    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, *
    and to the Holy Spirit:
    as it was in the beginning, is now, *
    and will be for ever. Amen.

    Psalm Prayer

    God our Father, may all nations and peoples praise you. May Jesus, who is called faithful and true and who lives with you eternally, possess our hearts for ever.

    Ant. His kingdom will endure for ever, and all the kings of the earth will serve and obey him.

    Ant. 3 The authority and honor of a king have been given to Christ; all peoples, tribes and nations will serve him for ever.

    Canticle: Revelation 4:11; 5:9, 10, 12
    Redemption hymn


    O Lord our God, you are worthy *
    to receive glory and honor and power.

    For you have created all things; *
    by your will they came to be and were made.

    Worthy are you, O Lord, *
    to receive the scroll and break open its seals.

    For you were slain; *
    with your blood you purchased for God
    men of every race and tongue, *
    of every people and nation.

    You made of them a kingdom, †
    and priests to serve our God, *
    and they shall reign on the earth.

    Worthy is the Lamb that was slain *
    to receive power and riches,
    wisdom and strength, *
    honor and glory and praise.

    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, *
    and to the Holy Spirit:
    as it was in the beginning, is now, *
    and will be for ever. Amen.

    Ant. The authority and honor of a king have been given to Christ; all peoples, tribes and nations will serve him for ever.


    READING
    See Ephesians 1:20-23

    God raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in heaven, high above every principality, power, virtue, and domination, and every name that can be given in this age or in the age to come. He has put all things under Christ’s feet and has made him, thus exalted, head of the church, which is his body: the fullness of him who fills the universe in all its parts.

    RESPONSORY

    Yours is the splendor and the power;
    yours is the kingdom, O Lord.
    – Yours is the splendor and the power;
    yours is the kingdom, O Lord.

    You will rule over all.
    – Yours is the kingdom, O Lord.

    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
    – Yours is the splendor and the power;
    yours is the kingdom, O Lord.

    GOSPEL CANTICLE

    Ant. The Lord God will give him the throne of David, his ancestor; he will rule in the house of Jacob for ever and his kingdom will have no end, alleluia.

    Canticle of Mary
    Luke 1:46-55
    The soul rejoices in the Lord

    My + soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, †
    my spirit rejoices in God my Savior *
    for he has looked with favor on his lowly servant.

    From this day all generations will call me blessed: †
    the Almighty has done great things for me, *
    and holy is his Name.

    He has mercy on those who fear him *
    in every generation.

    He has shown the strength of his arm, *
    he has scattered the proud in their conceit.

    He has cast down the mighty from their thrones, *
    and has lifted up the lowly.

    He has filled the hungry with good things, *
    and the rich he has sent away empty.

    He has come to the help of his servant Israel *
    for he has remembered his promise of mercy,
    the promise he made to our fathers, *
    to Abraham and his children for ever.

    Glory to the Father, and to the Son, *
    and to the Holy Spirit:
    as it was in the beginning, is now, *
    and will be for ever. Amen.


    Ant. The Lord God will give him the throne of David, his ancestor; he will rule in the house of Jacob for ever and his kingdom will have no end, alleluia.

    INTERCESSIONS

    Let us pray to Christ the King. He is the firstborn of all creation; all things exist in him.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord.

    Christ, our king and shepherd, gather your sheep from every land,
    – give them pasture in green and fertile meadows.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord.

    Christ, our leader and savior, form all men into your own people, heal the sick, seek out the lost, guard the strong,
    – call back those who have wandered away, strengthen those who waver, gather all your sheep into one flock.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord.

    Judge of all ages, when you hand over your kingdom to the Father, place us at your right hand,
    – so that we may inherit the kingdom prepared for us from the beginning of the world.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord.

    Prince of peace, break the weapons of war,
    – and inspire the nations with your peace.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord.

    Christ, heir of all nations, gather humanity and all the good things of your creation into the kingdom of your Church which your Father bestowed on you,
    – so that the whole body of your people, united in the Holy Spirit, may acknowledge you as their head.
    May your kingdom come, O Lord

    THE LORD’S PRAYER

    (Gathering our prayer and praises into one, let us offer the prayer Christ himself taught us:

    Our Father, who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come;
    thy will be done on earth
    as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    and forgive us our trespasses
    as we forgive those who trespass against us;
    and lead us not into temptation,
    but deliver us from evil.


    CONCLUDING PRAYER

    Almighty and merciful God,
    you break the power of evil
    and make all things new
    in your Son Jesus Christ, the King of the universe.
    May all in heaven and earth proclaim your glory
    and never cease to praise you.
    We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son,
    who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit,
    one God, for ever and ever.
    – Amen.
     
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    This looks interesting. Will watch tomorrow. Thank you.:)
     
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