MOG's Thoughts on Governor Nikki Haley?

Discussion in 'The Spirit of the USA' started by Xavier, Jan 30, 2024.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It is unsettling that Nikki Haley has not thrown in the towel after her defeat in her own State and with no path to power.

    I have a feeling that she knows something we don't, namely that Trump will not be around too much longer one way or another. That is the only logical reason why she could still be in there. She's not stupid, neither are her big backers.
     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    Fearful thoughts but you have a point. Her backers are not giving up. That's for sure.
     
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  3. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    These were my thoughts too, Padraig.
     
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  4. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Here are some fun stats:

    2024 Michigan General Election: Haley vs Biden

    POLLSTERDATESAMPLEMOE
    HALEY (R)
    BIDEN (D)

    1. Haley+10.8
    2. Haley+10
    3. Haley+12
    4. Haley+11
    5. Haley+10

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/haley-vs-biden

    Virtually every Poll shows Haley crushing Biden by 10 points or more in Michigan. Meanwhile,


    In 2020:

    "Biden ultimately carried Michigan by 2.78%"

    If Republicans actually want to win the White House in 2024 - as opposed to just lose to Biden again - the Choice is clear. Haley crushes Biden, whereas Biden will likely beat (or "cheat") Trump again.
     
  5. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    "Troy — Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley said Sunday night that Michigan had once been a "beacon" for Republicans before the gains fell apart after Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016.

    In an interview with The Detroit News, Haley said Trump, whom she's now challenging for the Republican presidential nomination, had left the Michigan GOP "completely divided." Republicans will continue to lose under Trump, because he talks "about these things that split our party instead of bringing our party together," Haley said.

    Her comment about dividing the GOP was in response to a question about false claims from Trump and other Republicans that widespread fraud somehow caused him to lose the 2020 presidential election in Michigan to Democrat Joe Biden, who won by 3 percentage points or about 154,000 votes."

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...in-michigan-presidential-primary/72683321007/
     
  6. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It troubles me. Prayers to St Michael the Arcangel. What a dangerous and evil world we live in.
     
  7. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Haley is raking as much money as she can. This may be her last chance. She’s there to divide both candidates and most likely making room for another Democrat candidate instead of Biden. God help us.
     
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  8. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    It's not Nikki Haley's fault that Donald Trump encouraged violent protest on January 6th. It's not even Mike Pence's fault. It's solely Donald Trump's fault.

    "Illinois judge kicks Trump off primary ballot
    An Illinois judge has ruled that Donald Trump engaged in insurrection and has barred him from the state's primary ballot - though she put the ruling on hold pending an appeal.


    Two other states - Colorado and Maine - have removed Mr Trump from their primary ballots for violating a 14th Amendment "insurrection" clause.

    The final outcome will likely be decided by the US Supreme Court.

    Illinois' primary election is scheduled for 19 March."

    From: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68432465
     
  9. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Michigan was rigged in 2020 and so were many other states. There were pallots of ballets brought in to many areas of the state in the middle of the night. Republicans were thrown out of the vote count areas and the windows were boarded up. It was a total s show. Posting articles about what happened in Michigan from mainstream media means nothing compared to the truth. Whistleblowers came forth all around the state of Michigan and no one will hear their cases or allow the evidence to be shown in a court room. Finally, news outlets are beginning to report the fraud in Michigan in 2020 and its estimated that over 150,000 votes were not right.

    Xavier, I know you despise Trump, but the stuff you post is flat out false. Polls are rigged and and never independent. They are slanted to display a picture the media wants to spin by being selective in who they decide to call to poll. Haley is owned by the same people who own most of Washington. The narrative is being set that she will beat Biden but I could post countless polls showing that she has no shot against Biden and she is being trounced by Trump. Voters are awake, they are going to have to cheat big this time to beat Trump and thus that will seem very challenging for them to do so. The media likes to keep saying that she is doing so well against Trump but the states she is doing well in are ones where she is getting democrat votes in the primaries because they can vote for her as a democrat but come election day, they are not going to vote for her. Its all a game to build a media narrative to dissuade voters. So many will think that Trump has no shot and then stay home from voting. That's what the elites want. Its all fear propaganda and psyops. Less voter turnout works in the democrats favor. Early voting works in the democrats favor. If we want to beat the democrats, we need to turnout in huge numbers on election day. Don't do absentee ballots. Don't let the enemy know the numbers they need to cheat by.

    It is far past time for the GOP to come together. The enemy is always united and the GOP is always an internal mess. Trump will be the nominee so if we want to beat the democrats and not only save the country but the world, republicans and independents need to be unified. All this Haley nonsense is stopping that from occurring.
     
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  10. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    If Trump wants Unity, he'll have to earn it. He can't really call Governor Nikki Haley as "Birdbrain" and then say he wants Unity in the same Breath.

    And I still think Haley will pardon Trump if she gets in. But Trump has to seriously reflect on his own behavior also. It doesn't matter how "rigged" you think the election results are, you can't cause or lead to violence because of it. You can of course file as many cases as you want, but then you have to trust the Judges and the legal process. If you know you've won, or that you are in the Truth, as we know in the Pro-Life fight, we trust the Legal Process to eventually get it right. Trump doesn't trust the legal process because he has no idea whether he won or not. Here below is Bannon in a revealing video.

    "
    Bannon isn’t ’telling it like it is’, he’s continuing with a pre-planned strategy to lie and say the 2020 election was stolen. Here he is, 5 days before the election explaining it. Trump’s own team is under oath saying it was not stolen and they repeatedly told him this, yet he called to terminate the Constitution to overturn it and went about a fake elector plot to improperly seek to prevent Joe Biden from amassing 270 electoral votes, and used the mob on J6 to pressure Pence to certify phony electors. You know this, yet continue pushing the lie."

    https://twitter.com/JoshPower80/status/1762469602489942509 See the Video in the link. 5 days before the 2020 Election, Bannon explains the "strategy": Claim Rigged Election no matter what. Trump did the same when he lost to Cruz in Iowa. Trump is an unethical man. He did truly lose.

    I still think he might be better than Biden. But that isn't saying much. Virtually anyone would be better than Biden. Trump needs to be better.
     
  11. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Here's the link to Trump accusing Cruz of "cheating" in Iowa: Cruz would have been a much better President than Trump was. He'd have done the Good, without the bad, certainly without a J6 equivalent. Many Conservatives are currently demoralized precisely because they've embraced Trump's defeatism.

    If you know you lost, and admit it, you have some incentive to change, to be more winsome, to try and attract or gain more voters.

    If you don't admit you lost, but blame anyone and everyone else, whether Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, or Mike Pence, you've no incentive to change. Source below: "Trump accuses Cruz of ‘fraud,’ calls for new Iowa election"
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674
     
  12. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Not going into a long debate over the 2020 election. It was completely rigged and stolen. Doesn't matter what the media or people in power say. The voters know the truth and that is what matters. Trump did not call for violence either. That is completely false. He told people to go home when it was all going down and also told them to go and peacefully protest. I don't know how much you watched or researched all this at the times it was happening versus what you read now but I spent easily hundreds of hours on the election and everything leading up to Jan 6th. There are countless videos on Jan 6 that you could watch that day and the days after that have all been removed from the internet. Videos that I saw. There were tons of fbi agents and antifa in the crowd that day and they showed up at the capital long before Trump supporters did. I saws the videos of antifa getting dropped off by the bus load and then changing into trump and maga gear. It is not my job to convince anyone but I am convinced and urge others to dig into this on their own. There is tons of information and evidence. I will leave you all with one piece of information that makes it pretty obvious to me it was rigged.

    You can go back and research past elections and then look at the absentee ballots. In past elections the errors in absentee ballots is around 11% get thrown out. In the 2020 election the margin of error on absentee ballots was less than 1%. So now you have this election where the number of absentee ballots quadrupled and yet the margin of error declined to virtually zero. That is statistically impossible. I was a statistics major and the chances of this occurring are on par with you winning the lottery and getting struck by lightening 5 times all in the same day. So I guess it is not impossible but it is improbable.
     
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  13. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    If Trump wins the Primary, a very likely outcome in the General is this: he loses again to Biden, then claims "cheating" again, and Conservatives keep embracing defeatism for the next 4 years. Then, rinse, and repeat, in 2028, after telling Pro-Life Heroes like Governor DeSantis to "wait their turn" again.

    Smh.
     
  14. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Many politicians complain of cheating. It is what they do but for some reason we only tend to look at Trump saying it and ignore so many who say otherwise. Hillary has still never accepted that there wasn't cheating in 2016. The dems talk about the rigging of machines all the time. So why do we only focus on Trump. This is what the media has done. They have literally brainwashed people into calling what Trump is doing as evil and yet they all do it. Elections have always been rigged at some points. You can't not watch 12,000 mules and then say there wasn't cheating in the 2020 election because it is all documented on camera. Now you can say that maybe this one case alone wasn't enough to turn the election but in many swing states the margin of victory was 10,000 votes. You also can't say that you the recounts proved the election wasn't rigged. All the recount did was count the same ballots in which many were not valid. Voter roles were not scubbed prior to the election and how many dead people voted. You can find countless stories from people. You can claim these are one offs, but all the one offs add up. I just saw an interview of woman who voted for the first time in 15 years in the primary for Trump. When she did, she found out she had voted in all the elections for the past 15 years state and federal. This goes on everywhere. Cheating is all over the place. Until you move to one day, paper ballots and ids to be checked across the whole country, the cheating will continue because it is too easy to do so.

    https://rumble.com/v35cz3x-must-see-montage-of-democrats-denying-election-results.html

    Then there is this. So much violence advocated against Trump and the GOP:

    https://rumble.com/v3rj91g-trumps-l...crats-and-celebrities-advocating-violenc.html

    and this:

    https://rumble.com/v2l2yxg-hillary-clinton-admits-all-future-elections-are-100-rigged.html
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2024
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  15. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Trump lost by some 7 MN Votes and some 75 Electoral College Seats. It's highly unlikely he lost because of "cheating". It's possible a few votes were out of order, but highly unlikely they changed the election result. If Killary Clinton thought she lost because of "cheating", she's equally wrong too. But Killary didn't cause a J6 of her own. Conservatives should keep things simple: in the Primary, choose the Most Pro-Life candidate. In the general, aim to win. Then get the Pro-Life Victories. Serious Christians should be Pro-Life Social Conservatives. Applying this standard, DeSantis was the best, Haley is the better one remaining (because she didn't call heartbeat bills "a terrible thing), Trump is the poorest. If inspite of that, Trump wins the Primary, then we'll see, but I think Conservatives are making poor choices in the Primary, and that will hurt them in the General. I saw the polls: Haley beats Biden big time. Think I posted them too. Let me check again.
     
  16. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Yup, here they are:

    "Here are some fun stats:

    2024 Michigan General Election: Haley vs Biden

    POLLSTERDATESAMPLEMOE
    HALEY (R)
    BIDEN (D)

    1. Haley+10.8
    2. Haley+10
    3. Haley+12
    4. Haley+11
    5. Haley+10

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/haley-vs-biden

    Virtually every Poll shows Haley crushing Biden by 10 points or more in Michigan. Meanwhile,


    In 2020:

    "Biden ultimately carried Michigan by 2.78%"
     
  17. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Ok, I want you to think this out and explain it to me logically. All the major media outlets are saying that Haley will beat Biden better than Trump would. The most recent poll done by Marquette law school shows Haley beating Biden in the state of Wisconsin by 13 pts and Trump wins by 1 point. However, in the state of Wisconsin, Trump is at 64% in the primary to 22% for Haley. That math doesn't add up. She can't be up 13 points to Biden while being blown out. This is another pretty obvious proof of a comment I made earlier. The media is controlled by the enemy and the media is pushing this narrative that she will destroy Biden while Trump will lose. Now we know the media is 90% or more owned and pushed by democrats. You need to read between the lines here. The numbers don't make sense and they are pushing this narrative of Haley better than Trump because again they want to do all they can to not have Trump on the ticket. When my enemies are against someone, that is who I am going to support!

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/07/haley-biden-trump-wisconsin-poll-00140200
     
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  18. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    I thought the media was wrong too, about Governor DeSantis, but it turns out the Polls were right. I think he was the Best Conservative in a life-time. He, Ronald DeSantis, would have been the best and most winsome Pro-Life Social Conservative Hero since Ronald Reagan. But he didn't win. The polls were right. A Consensus of Polls, from multiple independent outlets, is highly unlikely to be mistaken.

    Let me give you a Scenario that addresses your point without going into specifics: Trump is indeed popular among Republicans, there's no doubt about that. But he's extremely unpopular among Democrats and Independents. So let's assume, broadly, 40% Dems, 40% Repubs, 20% Independents.

    Among Repubs, Trump may beat Haley 60 to 40 or whatever. But that's only 24% to 16% of the entire electorate. The remaining 60% of the electorate being Dems and Independents, if Haley beats Trump roundly there, then she will beat Biden by way bigger margins than he would in the General.

    So I understand your point, but I don't think it works. If Haley was more popular among Republicans, both the Primary and the General would be easy.

    Since she is fairly popular among both Democrats and Independents, because she is able to articulate Conservative, even Pro-Life Policies in an attractive and winsome way rather than in an off-putting way, she will do well among them. But to win the Primary, she will need to attract more Repub. voters.

    May God Bless and guide us all. In Lord Jesus' Name. Amen.
     
  19. Xavier

    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

    Governor Nikki Haley Tweeted that:
    https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1763706304021835947
    "1.Republicans haven’t won Virginia since 2004.
    2. A new Roanoke College poll shows that I beat Biden by NINE POINTS.
    3. Donald Trump loses by FOUR. We can’t grow the map and the party with Trump at the top of the ticket.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. sterph

    sterph Archangels

    When a liberal violently protests, it is called a peaceful demonstration. When a conservative protests, it is called insurrection. The divide is very great. The narrative is ludicrous. May God protect and provide for us. No one else will.
     
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