“I tell you, if these were silent, the very stones would cry out.”

You make no sense to me at all. You would probably argue the fruits of a satanic cross.

 

I have always had a fear of dying by fire and the idea of purgatory terrifies me. And while I disagree with your views on the Church of today I am afraid you are right Mac about the fire to come. It will not be the fire of the Holy Spirit but the fires of Tribulation that will burn as real as any fire. This is only my opinion. I once had a pot of boiling water spill over my hands. That was sore but not as sore as I thought it would be. On another occasion I saw a child's anorak catching light from candles at the front of the church. I raced down and beat the flames out. My hands got burned and I remember the worst of the pain being in the webbing at the base of my fingers. The material had melted here. And I think of the description of the Chastisement "It will be worse than fire above and below us." No wonder people reject private revelation. The details of suffering are horrific. As you know I believe 100% in Akita and Garabandal and Amsterdam. But it is terrifying. I hope I am given courage. I hope my comments are not just talk. I need to do much more penance. I will probably feel more than a little foolish if the prophesies are not fulfilled by 2017 at the latest but at least I will still be alive. No point in guessing. Every point in being prepared.

 

Thanks Infant Jesus

 

But most importantly, no one had the power to take Christ's life. He was in control of this at all moments. He willingly gave his life for ALL- Jews, Romans, communists, capitalists, traditionalists, liberals - everyone.


"This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life in order to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down on my own. I have power to lay it down, and power to take it up again" - John 10:17-18

 

Give me a break Mac. I am so far behind now and stressed to the nines.

 

Nothing makes sence to Mac &company unless you blast the popes... Get some rest my brother!
ive learned we don't have to reply to every stupidity

 

Ill send you one of these Joe...

 

God will hold everyone to account that means every Board Member will be held to account for their OWN actions and deeds, Even when you cast your vote in the elections do you not think God will ask you why you voted yourself a tax cut when you knew this would mean less money to the Poor and less well off. He will not only blame the President of the Board but all those who voted along with him Common Law is not Gods Law. If God did not blame anyone why is Judas and everyone else involved in the Conspiracy of his Murder in Hell.

 

Hang in there Joe!

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Mac if this is a photo of your own home setup you must have washed the blood off it recently?

 

Yup, none of us will escape nothing. All of us will have to serve our own sentence . We have been told we won't be let out til the last second is served. We will be handed over to the torturer to the bitter end. Why would anyone want to be a Christian! We can't blame anyone else even though someone else may be able to blame us! Better be worth it.

 

You misunderstand me: I didn't say that G_D doesn't blame anyone, I'm saying with diffusion of responsibility people think there is a concurrent diffusion of guilt. I don't think so.

Years ago a company named Enron screwed around with the markets (illegally) in order to make money. One result of this was greatly increased power prices and lower power availability in the Western states in the middle of a very hot summer. (The power was going to drive Enron's aluminum refining operations.) The state of California went through a period of rolling blackouts, where sections of cities and the state would have their power cut off so everyone could have some electricity. There were a number of elderly persons who could not afford the increased cost of electricity, and so they did the only thing they could: they shut off their air conditioning. Several were hurt, and at least one person died.

The president of the company killed himself in his driveway before he could be arrested. Only a few of the Enron executives were tried, and even fewer served prison time -- too much diffusion of responsibility. The company is now out of business, and the stockholders lost untold sums. I believe that all the members of the board have been charged by G_D not just with stealing, but with the deaths of the people who were denied the electricity they needed but could not get or afford due to their actions.

As for the "Conspiracy", the only one that we are certain is in Hell is Judas, and we know that only from careful reading of Scripture. He was not condemned for betraying Jesus; instead, he despaired of the love, mercy, and forgiveness of Jesus and so hung himself.

 

Most people here would take it in stride, but, belying my love of prickly pinecones, I am very tenderhearted.
The sting occurred when I was trying to point out that the heart of the First Saturday Devotion was to spend time with Our Lady, and that the reception of Communion and Reconciliation, according to the Vatican backed WAFUSA, were allowed on a day other than Saturday without a priests dispensation. I was taken aback by how negative the reaction was--one even suggested that the association to the Vatican was "the problem" and that WAFUSA should not be trusted.
I was appalled that subscribers to a Catholic forum had so much acrimony for our Papa.
I had much to offer up and it was tempting to just stay away, but ultimately, the good here far outweighs the bad.
Enjoy your Saturday, it is (very) late Friday here in Oregon.
God Bless,
pcj

 

Prayer from the old missal - now non-pc. Pity.

Thanks for taking the time to reply Muzhik and telling me how you see it. I kind of agree with you but not entirely. But thanks anyway.

 

Hi PC
Its 6.30 Saturday night here in Morrinsville. I see it is 11.30 Friday in Oregon. Last Saturday I missed my 3rd first Saturday. I wish I had not been so hard on myself. I am sure the quiet confidence of your 'heart' of the devotion gets far more smiles in heaven than the rigidity of others. I should have made up for it in some other way instead of just giving up and starting again. I did not know about WAFUSA till now. I did it before my first visit to Garabandal but not sure how well. Anyway I will try again. Meanwhile I wish you good night. Hope you and your family are well and happy.

 

Haha, Ill send a picture of this to IJop , he thinks it is a cross.. View attachment 3186

 

That rigidity comes from heaven Joe . Just like your own rigidity seeking the real truth about your personal situation.

 

There is a rather beautiful ending to the little saga of the gifts given to the Pope in Bolivia. Copied from http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/francesco-sudamerica-42284/


“This morning,” reads a statement issued by Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi, “Pope Francis celebrated Holy Mass in the chapel of the private residence of the Archbishop Emeritus of Santa Cruz de la Sierra. At the end of the Eucharistic celebration, the Holy Father presented two decorative honours that were conferred onto him by Bolivian president Evo Morales during his courtesy visit to the Presidential palace in La Paz , to a statue of the Our Lady of Copacabana, patron saint of Bolivia.”

Francis accompanied this gesture with the following words: “The President of the nation was kind enough to offer me two decorative honours on behalf of the Bolivian people. I thank the Bolivian people for their affection and the President for this courteous gesture. I would like to dedicate these two decorations to the patron saint of Bolivia, the Mother of this noble nation, so that she may always remember her people and from Bolivia, from the shrine where I would like them to be, that she may remember the Successor of Peter and the whole Church and look after them from Bolivia.”

“Mother of the Saviour and our Mother,” Francis prayed, “You, Queen of Bolivia, who from the height of your Shrine in Copacabana attend to the prayers and needs of your children, especially the most poor and abandoned, and protect them: Receive as a gift from the heart of Bolivia and my filial affection the symbols of affection and closeness that – in the name of the Bolivian people – Mr. President Evo Morales Ayma has bestowed on me with cordial and generous affection, on the occasion of this Apostolic Journey, which I entrusted to your solicitous intercession.”

Francis concluded his prayer by saying: “I ask that these honours, which I leave here in Bolivia at your feet, and which recall the nobility of the flight of the Condor in the skies of the Andes and the commemorated sacrifice of Father Luis Espinal, S.J., may be emblems of the everlasting love and persevering gratitude of the Bolivian people for your solicitous and intense tenderness. At this moment, Mother, I place in your heart my prayers for all the many petitions of your children, which I have received in these days: I beg you to hear them; give them your encouragement and protection, and manifest to the whole of Bolivia your tenderness as woman and Mother of God, who lives and reigns for ever and ever. Amen.”

 

Be nice Mac. PC's my friend so watch it. I said one for you at church tonight. Its freezing here.

 

Sometimes in Garabandal when the girls said the Rosary with Our Lady they would add the words 'and our Mother' after 'Hail Mary, Mother of God.' Conchita understood that was ok in private but not in public until Garabandal was given approval. Here we have Our Holy Father giving the phrase aproval in another context 'Mother of the Saviour and our Mother'. I could not help but think of the Garabandal connection. Thanks for this Davidt. I suppose my friends Mac and BK cant wait to rip into this beautiful blessing from Pope Francis on the people of Bolivia and try to reduce it to heresy or blasphemy. But maybe, just maybe, i am wrong. I hope I am wrong and I ask forgiveness in advance for even suggesting they would do such a thing.