In Sermon, Patriarch Kirill links Ukraine War with Gay Pride Parades.

The West, via their NATO façade, wanted to provoke Russia into acting. This was clear and apparent from the outset. What I don't understand is 'why'?

Russia asked the West not to expand eastwards.
The aggressive West discarded this request.
You can fire out those statements like, 'russia invaded' without context. Russia did not wake-up one morning and decide to invade Ukraine. There was context which you, just like our fake media corporations, gloss over, downplay and neglect.

Russia had to act in the very same way the United States (quite rightly) would act if Canada were to align militarily with Russia.

I mean, come on!!
A superpower is not - under any circumstances, going to allow another superpower to line weapons and artillery along its border without acting.

One might well argue that St. Aquinas just war theory could well apply here. But I'll tell you where it certainly didn't apply... In Iraq. In Afghanistan. In Libya. And in a myriad of other such places where life has been obliterated and millions murdered by the lies, greed and wanting destruction of the bloodthirsty West. Those 'conflicts', as already stated, caused the death of millions. And the common denominator in each case was the West aided by it's propaganda machine, the media.
This thing with Russia is another case of here we go again. The West know exactly what they're doing. They want more blood!

Where are the peacemakers?
Who is calling for calm in the Western media?

Exactly!!

 

Western values are needed all over the world.

 

OK I get it. You've bought into the Russian propaganda. News flash, i agree with you on the west. But what most people miss is satan is playing all sides. There is no good side here. Let's not forget who russias alies are. Communist China. Communist N Korea. Islamic terrorist Iran. That should tell you all you need to know.

 

I tend to agree with jackzokay. I don't think it is just Russian Propaganda. Look for instance at the very knowledgeable and considered opinions of Larry Johnston, ex-CIA man:

https://rumble.com/v37qiey-ex-cia-l...on-terrified-over-new-russia-strike-plan.html

I'm no expert at all. I think also that while satan is capable of playing both sides, Biblical history and Marian apparitions show us that God too is capable of playing both sides. Is God not capable of using Russia to chastise us and bring us back? And in this sense might Russia's actions not have a morally superior purpose to them? I pray that we might mitigate any conditional chastisements. To be honest, I am fearful too of what the new Pontifical Commision on Marian Apparitions might have to say about the many Marian Apparitions revealing the dangling chastisements hanging over humanity.

 

Again, where this argument falls apart is in suggesting putin, a known murderer thug, is somehow being superiorly morally. There is never a moral justification for killing innocent people in the same way there is no moral justification for abortion. Yes God can bring good out of evil. He can use putins evil actions or the evil actions of anyone to bring people to their knees to beg for mercy and return to God. Hawaii wild fires for example. But do not confuse that with putin doing something morally good by partnering with communist dictators, Islamic terrorist states, and killing thousands of innocent people for some moral good. It doesn't work that way. You and I can't kill innocent people for a greater moral good and neither can putin.

 

I did say "in that sense" are his actions not morally superior? Not in an absolute sense but in the sense that God may be using his actions for ultimate good.

Note also that Joshua put innocent women and children under the curse of destruction at the instructions of God. Moses too. The Prophet Elijah slit the throats of the 400 prophets of Baal at the brook of Kishon. There are numerous examples in the Bible. God's servant King David put innocent women and children of other tribes (when he was hiding from King Saul in the Philistine territory) under the curse of destruction. God prevented David from building the Temple because there was too much blood on his hands but nevertheless David is considered a prefigurement of Jesus. No we are not allowed to kill innocent human life, however, when you look at history through the Biblical lens, one can see that we underestimate the scale of the battle we are in and the depths of God's justice and mercy.

It is my belief, I do not know of any theological precedent for this belief, that when God does apparently cruel things like putting people under the curse of destruction, it is to save them. When something was consecrated to God in the Old Testament, it was put under the curse of destruction. That is why their lives had to be bought back or redeemed with a gift or sacrifice. God is the author of all life and death. His ways are inscrutable. Let us pray to God through our heavenly Mother for powerful protection on life's journey.

 

I absolutely agree God has a plan to bring good out of this. No doubt that's been prophesied. All I'm saying is the act itself is evil and we should pray against the evil, not praising putin for being a morally superior leader vs the evil west. Both are bad, God will make both good, after much pain. Let's pray it's as minimal as possible.

 

Okay.
Let's just look at it like this.
You're the president of a country.
Let's call the country X.

Now, another nation from the other side of the world attempts to bring it's weapons and artillery to your border.
As president of country X, do you:

(A) take counter measures
(B) do nothing

Is it buying into propaganda to choose option (A)?

Or, would choosing this option be deemed a prudent and proactive step?

Sweeping statements such as, 'you've bought into Russian propaganda' - with no demonstration of how this is so, are massive generalisations without any shred of reasoning or factual argument. How do you draw this conclusion???

It is similar to someone being labelled a racist. This is a slur on that person's character. And practically impossible for that person to disprove.
This however seems to be your tactic in forwarding your argument; sweeping generalisations, almost labelling people with differing viewpoints as brainless whilst you sit in some sort of knowledgeable, all-seeing highchair.


Oh, and the West --- look who they're friends are, look who they sell arms to...

 

There was no build up of military or weapons in Ukraine. It was status quo as it had been the past decade. But ur going to believe what you want to believe. Atleast study the history of putin so u can understand more about the thug u think has a moral high ground.

 

That's why it's important the Strongest Pro-Life, Anti-Woke Candidates possible in these countries actually wins the presidency and controls the government. Christians have adopted all kinds of liberal ideas like that the state should be religiously neutral which favors atheists and liberals when they want to promote atheism or sexual liberalism. No. The State should be Conservatively Christian and should promote Conservative Christian values.

If it were not for NATO, Russia would have invaded small countries like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania - not to mention Poland which it has repeatedly threatened - long ago. Putin mainly does not like NATO because NATO prevents this. Who forced Finland and Sweden to join NATO? Putin himself.

Pro-Life Catholic Poland is one of the Strongest Supporters of NATO in Europe, not to mention of Ukraine's Self Defense in this Defensive Just War. It is an Aggressive Unjust War on Putin's Part, but a Defensive Just War on Ukraine and Poland's Part. Poland is ramping up defense spending and will soon spend 5% on Defense, well in above of NATO Commitments:

"Poland will soon spend 3% of its GDP on defence spending, while the ultimate target is 5%, ruling Law and Justice party leader Jarosław Kaczyński has said.

Poland spends 2.4% of its gross domestic product on defence, which means Poland has already met the NATO target for 2024 as agreed at the Newport summit eight years ago.

Poland intends to increase defence spending further “so that Russia does not attack us,” said Kaczyński at a party rally in Płock in central Poland. “We need a strong army for deterrence,” he added." https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/poland-to-spend-5-of-gdp-on-defence/

Poland's doing this because Poland knows this is necessary to deter Russia. Putin should give Navalny back his freedom and himself should resign.

 

There was no build up of military weapons in Ukraine? Are you for real? What do you think NATO was intending to do, line the Russian / Ukraine border with bunny rabbits?

 

What!?!
The Russians had control of those Baltic States and rescinded. In fact, Russia paid-off the debt they had. Why would the Russians want to go back in there again?
Are you sure you're not swallowing the propaganda pushed by the media? And the leaders placed in such places by the Western elites who have actually destroyed Sweden by filling it with migrants!

Look at the map of Europe. Russia hasn't expanded anywhere. NATO has pushed right up against the Russian border. I mean, that's fact. That's not disputed. It can be seen on any map.

 

RFK Jr. seems to completely agree with those who say that Russia was provoked into this war and that Washington is using Ukraine as a battering ram against Russia.

Their purpose is the destruction of Russia.

Only 5 minutes long. Worth the watch.

Now if only RFKJr were pro-life…

 

Yea. If only he was pro life. He recently back tracked on his support to limit abortion to 3 months. Now he is saying apparently there should be no restrictions. If you get the sacredness of human life wrong your whole understanding is wrong.

 

Yes can you imagine how the US would react?

No wait a minute we don’t have to imagine.

It was the Cuban missile crisis and it brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.

 

True. But it was a different world back then. And JFK was President. I was in junior high school and I remember being afraid, but I prayed a lot.
Good point, Blizzard.

 

From what we know and suspect of the CIA now, if only!

 

MISSION DESTROY RUSSIA Col Macgregor.

Concise 5 minute explanation of why the Ukraine war happened.

 

Lol, According to McGregor. May as well bring in Scott Ritter.