Dublin stabbings & rioting

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  1. Jo M

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    This mass immigration has been allowed to intentionally destabilize our countries. :(
     
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    There are different kinds of immigrant. The hero of the day is a Brazilian, whose courage and quick thinking prevented an even worse outcome. As we're not reproducing sufficiently to replace ourselves and murdering many of the children we do have, we need immigrants, but we need to be more discerning. Christians, by all means, but Muslims are bad news.
     
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    I think your previous post already confirmed that the culprit was an adherent of "Islam".
     
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    You know that story about the Brazilian, if you follow the Irish media at all, was totally inevitable. It turns out the Brazilian guy just grabbed the knife on the ground. A native Dubliner tackled the attacker and getting his jumper slashed, but even his wife writes that because he is Irish the media cannot mention him.
     
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    I was just idly thinking about the rioting in Dublin last night and it seems to me this may very well tie in with what Our Lady has been saying throughout the world. She has said that there would be revolutions and political mass unrest in every country in the World. She also indicates that just before the Islamic/ Russian invasions of Europe there would be revolutions throughout Europe. I used to wonder what could causes such upheavals? Now I wonder if it might be popularist uprisings against Governments over things like Islamic Immigration?

    People are more and more detached from the natural ruling parties, the Political Establishments , The Swamp right across the World. They are seen as corrupt and living in their own little virtue signalling world. They appear to be One Worlders/ Globalists working for outside interests.
     
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    Abseloutely
     
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    I got a message from a very good friend in Dublin yesterday. By my standards he is wealthy. Himself and his wife have had very good jobs, she for instance runs a Dublin hospital and their house is worth millions and they live in upper middle class area in a beautiful leafy suburb right under the Wicklow Mountains. During the Covid nonsense I visited and he was drop dead horrified that I had never taken any jabs and think he was on the point of ordering me from his home in terror .

    He said that the immigration polices were wonderful in that they helped people all over the world.

    But he comes from a very large Dublin working class very Catholic family who grew up in poverty. His brothers and sisters still live far down the road in working class areas . I wrote to him that if I travelled down the road to talk to his sisters and brothers and asked them what they thought of things that they would give me a very,very different answer from the one he did.

    My friend is a very good devout Catholic but I think he thinks I am pretty well insane in my views on a number of issues including current goings on in the Church.

    But to me his views are pretty much exactly the same as those sold to us by the current Media/ Political establishment or the Vatican.

    I don't quite know why this is so, but it is. It is like a huge gulf has opened between us. Perhaps it is so between all ordinary working people and the well off. We look at so many things differently.

     
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    If what you say is true, then almost nothing in the media can be taken at face value. This might well be the case.

    Regardless, the West has lost the demographic battle. The people themselves have lost it via contraception, abortion, barren perversions and so on, whereas before we could have many priests, brothers and nuns but sufficient children to keep the population stable or better, even in the face of much higher infant and child mortality. The replacement rate is 2.1 children per woman. Most discussion in the liberal media, in as much as there is any, seems to propagate the lie that this refers to the rate per family. We're in much deeper trouble than we even realise. The discussion isn't going to be about immigration, but who these immigrants are going to be.

    We might be lucky in Ireland, because we are late to the game. Continental societies, such as France, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden, are going to enter chaos long before we reach that point and the lessons might then be learned the hard way. We are also fortunate that we have so many Ukrainians to deal with or our government might conceivably have invited the entire population of Gaza here.
     
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    20% of Ireland's population is non-Irish.

    They are flooding the country - I was in wee Killybegs a month ago staying in a B&B run by a lovely Hong Kong lady with an Irish accent (the kind of immigrants we want - she had 3 jobs) but she was horrified by the flood of male immigrants being kept in a renovated old hotel in the village - she says things are so bad she would not let her daughter out in the village after 9pm because those men roaming the streets. She also mentioned nearby Ardara and Glenties packed with immigrant males.

    In 2021 I was in Donegal on a mini break and I decided I wanted to call to the Nesbitt Arms Pub & B&B in Ardara as 40 years previously I had drank copious amounts of Guinness there very memorable. So I called with my wife and had 2 delicious pints of the black stuff. Much to my chagrin I was talking to a woman from that area about a month ago she said you'll not get a pint there anymore because the B&B is now an immigrant hostel.

    So if rural Donegal is full of them - we are in trouble because no one knows where they are from! (they say Ukraine but I wouldn't trust the Irish government to tell one sentence of truth).
     
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    I look forward one day to Vradkar and Martin being sentenced for crimes against Ireland - they are despicable human beings in my opinion.
     
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    Don’t we have members of the forum in Dublin? Many prayers for them. :cry:
     
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    The middle class detest the working class who protest against mass migration. (see below), it even appears to have put her off her Nuti-Grani Bar. Goodness!!

    https://sluggerotoole.com/2023/11/24/the-dublin-riots-irelandbelongstotheirish-and-hypocrisy/

    The Dublin Riots, #IrelandBelongsToTheIrish, and Hypocrisy…


    Katy Haskins is a PhD Researcher from County Down. She is interested in Irish identity, politics, and experiences of life. You can find her on LinkedIn or X (@katyrhaskins).

    Today, like every other day, I navigated the windy streets of Belfast – Nutri-Grain bar in hand – to get to my desk. Today, however, was not like every other day. Instead of spending my walk thinking about what I might have for dinner, or if I definitely locked the front door, or if I definitely sent that email I was supposed to send, I was caught up thinking about the disgraceful scenes in Dublin last night. While I’m lucky enough to have (mostly) seen burnt-out buses and police in riot gear only as pictures in history books, I was caught off-guard seeing them as headline news today – particularly due to the reasoning. As a PhD researcher investigating Irish nationalism, it felt disingenuous to open any books without first addressing what went on last night. If for nothing else but to straighten out my own thoughts on the situation.

    Of course, what happened in Parnell Square East – the attack on three children and a woman – was reprehensible. But just as most of us (I hope) would argue that the events of last night do not speak for all Irish folk, the events of yesterday afternoon do not speak for all immigrants. That would be a logical, foregone conclusion – at least to me.

    That’s not what you’d find if you checked “#IrelandBelongsToTheIrish” – a hashtag that was already tending on X, formerly Twitter, yesterday morning – before any of this took place. While one contributor assessed that the migrant situation is “[j]ust like the story of a patron Saint driving snakes off the island… this MUST happen again. DEPORT.”[1], while another said, “[t]he seeds are being sown for a revival of the IRA. Well done government. Well done the far left. Well done the refugees [sic] welcome crew. This is all on you.”[2]. Upon scrolling the hashtag this morning, as well as other seedy corners of the social network, the ante has well and truly been upped.

    Furthermore, endlessly trustworthy and respected political commentator Conor McGregor has weighed in on the migration issue on several occasions over the last week, ramping up his advocacy in the last 24 hours or so. He’s very concerned about the “safety” of Ireland, particularly with regard to women and children[3]. It’s a good thing we have such a peace-loving and non-violent man in our corner – I must ask him about it next time I find myself aboard a yacht with him.

    I can tell you right now – as a woman, who was a child a little over five-years ago – immigrants do not make me feel unsafe. Do you want to know what does? Far-right propaganda. Torching city streets. Violent men. And last night demonstrated, as if we didn’t already know, that they are things the Irish are capable of. Bad people can come from anywhere. So do not use women and children as pawns when justifying your hate-speech and violent actions. If you cared about us, you wouldn’t be out setting Dublin on fire – you’d be voting for people who will fight for our equality. And you certainly wouldn’t use an attack of this nature as an excuse to go out and raise hell – you’d be hosting a vigil.

    Hypocritically, the very same nation finds itself up in arms over “no Irish need apply” and “no Irish, no Blacks, no Dogs” rhetoric from 60 years ago; when we found ourselves at the receiving end of the same vitriol we’re currently dishing out. Similarly, it is approximated that 1.47 million Irish citizens find themselves living outside of Ireland (according to statistics from the Department of Foreign Affairs from 2017)[4]. It’s alright when we do it, eh? Every major city in this world has an Irish pub. Everybody knows somebody who’s off on their gap year to find themselves. Everybody has a cousin who ran away to Australia. Even the far-right ‘activists’ who were rioting last night. We are a nation of people with emigration in our DNA. We are a nation of people who should be understanding of the plight of people leaving their homeland.

    I’m proud to be Irish – hell, as a Northern lass I chose to be – but such events as last night are mortifying to be associated with. I am proud of my homeland, and I’m proud that many people like the idea of making it their home, too. At a time in world history in which so many people’s homelands are in peril – look at Gaza, or Ukraine, or the Congo – we should be committed to peace and inclusion in our own.

    ‘Th’ whole worl’s in a terrible state o’ chassis’ – let’s not add to it.
     
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    Thank you HH. I live in Dublin. I grew up close to the city centre but live a few miles outside it now. It's a quiet area and feels far away from the mayhem which happened the other evening around O'Connell Street. I rarely go into town now, especially around that area, as there has been (in my opinion) a growing sense of menace in recent years related to drugs and groups of disaffected youth looking for trouble. An American tourist was attacked nearby a few months ago and badly beaten by a gang of 14 and 15 year olds.
    I know the current circumstances are different and some who were on the street on Thursday night had valid reasons to be angry but there were also many who took the opportunity to engage in anti social behaviour...looting shops and burning buses, trams and police cars.
    At the moment the city is relatively quiet...however, the extreme nature of what happened the other night might suggest it wasn't the last time we'll see this kind of thing. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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    Dave, thank you kindly for your explanation. I agree with you, Baltimore and DC near where I live have had eruptions of violence. For the time being, glad things are quieter in Dublin right now. But I’m still praying.
    I also agree with you about the nature of those perpetrating the violence. Opportunists
     
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    Wow. Typical leftist-speak. There's a huge difference between the Irish Diaspora in Christian based countries (mostly?) and the unvetted migrants our countries are allowing in. I do not believe many middle Eastern immigrants are compatible with Western culture. We in Canada are prepping for 1.5 million next year! We have no homes for the one's that are already here, let alone our own population so our gov is bringing in more "to help build the homes we need". This is Trudeaus logic, or better yet, his destabilization tactic orders given from the WEF. :(
     
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    Sad but true
     
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    Our country has changed so much since massive immigration. I hardly see western people working in stores. I am beginning to feel like an alien in a foreign country.
     
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    Appear to be? Your being softer on these than you are on the Pope.;) In the USA right now, it is the warmongers and the greedy defense contractors working hand-in-hand. There is such a unity between these two and the Press, it turns my stomach.:sick: After the destruction of the male population in Ukraine (250,000+), they have used the pro-Israel base to help justify the carpet bombing of the Gaza. I am pro-peace. But Israel's extreme response only engenders more hate and a spirit of revenge. The Just War theory has always counseled proportionality. I don't see this in how Israel conducted their response.

    In WWII, the viability of just restraint in war went out the window with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Combined death counts vary, but 180,000 civilians would be a fair combined estimate. :cry:The resulting effort to justify this tragedy has effectively sent the Just War theory to its grave, in my opinion. Lip service is given, but...

    Lord have Mercy!
     
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    Agree. The majority of these immigrants will never assimilate.
     

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