New - ST JP II’s prophetic remarks at Fulda

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Jan 27, 2023.

  1. Lumena

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    However, its a timing issue.

    "The moment" had come. The Pope missed that moment. And now it could be too dangerous to release it. Maybe thats why it was covered up by Pope Benedict and others ? As the new millenium dawned. Sort of like a ruse to get the Russians to lose interest in finding it out?

    Malachi always said we are now living in the "or".
     
  2. Lois

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    Many years ago in the early days of the internet I was captivated by Fr. MM's interviews with Art Bell. But for me, in that time, it seemed so "out there" I filed it away as possible but hopefully not probable.

    Watched this last evening...After everything that's happened the past few years, and listening to him now with "new ears", I felt a great peace. In his own way, he basically confirmed Padre Pio's exhortation to "pray, hope and don't worry".

    As HH says on here so often, "the battle is the Lord's" ~ and so too is the victory ~
     
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  3. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

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    Found an old article of Fatima Crusader from summer 2014 when all of this Russia/Kiev conflict was just beginning. It's no longer available on their site that I could find but using the archive.org site I was able to pull it up. I know that Fr Gruner was for some a controversial character due to his suspension but given all that has fallen into place over the course of this last few decades I find it interesting to go back and review these claims.

    https://web.archive.org/web/2016032...ussia, Ukraine and the Third Secret of Fatima
     
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    Great find - thanks Don.
     
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    Malachi Martin interviewed by Bernard Janzen. Get's really interesting after about an hour 10 mins. I enjoyed these interviews much more than the coast to coast ones.

     
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    This is something that has been at the back of my mind considering all that is happening and Catholic prophecy regarding Russia. The largest opposition party in Russia to Putin's is the Communist party and although they are much smaller we all know how wildly things can swing when a nation is facing the possibility of destruction.

    Putin's former speechwriter says a military coup is becoming a possibility in Russia
    From CNN's Mitchell McCluskey

    A military coup is becoming a possibility in Russia as the war in Ukraine continues, President Vladimir Putin’s former speechwriter said Monday.

    Speaking to CNN’s Erin Burnett, speechwriter turned political analyst Abbas Gallyamov said that as Russian losses mount in Ukraine and the country experiences hardship brought by Western sanctions, Russians will look for someone to blame.

    "The Russian economy is deteriorating. The war is lost. There are more and more dead bodies returning to Russia, so Russians will be coming across more difficulties and they'll be trying to find explanation why this is happening, looking around to the political process and they'll be answering themselves: 'Well, this is because our country is governed by an old tyrant, an old dictator,'" Gallyamov said, referring to Putin.

    “At this moment, I think a military coup will become possible.”
    That moment may come in the next 12 months, he said.

    “So in one year when the political situation changes and there's a really hated unpopular president at the head of the country and the war is really unpopular, and they need to shed blood for this, at this moment, a coup becomes a real possibility,” he added.

    Gallyamov also said he believes Putin may cancel presidential elections scheduled to be held in March 2024.

    “Judging by his actions, when he is escalating on something without necessity, he might really cancel the elections. Without victory over Ukraine, he'll face difficulty with the Russians. Russians don't need him if he's not strong. He might really declare the martial law and cancel the elections,” Gallyamov said.
     
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    I found this interview with Fr Gruner and Fr Kramer some might find interest in. Sadly there is no part II that I am aware of.

     
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  9. Lois

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    thank you for this....& I'm only six minutes in....
     
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  10. Lois

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    Question: Does anyone know where to look for credible info on the 1962 Vatican-Moscow agreement? While I understood there was some agreement made to allow Russians to participate in VII, I never really fully grasped the implications of this. Especially in regard to Cardinal Zen's plight now ~ thanks
     
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    I have not yet watched the video. Thank you for bringing up this highly interesting topic.

    The German Catholic magazine "Stimme des Glaubens" published an account in 1981 of what St. JP II said in Fulda in 1980. I must look it up.

    From my memory, quoting St. JP II off the cuff: "Knowledge of the Third Secret of Fatima should not be sought due to mere sensationalism. With knowledge comes responsibility. Knowledge of milllions of people perishing from one hour to the next is not something really desirable. Also, if the Third Secret was published, this might invite the world power of Communism (Russia) to make certain moves. You only have to focus on this (the Holy Father held up his Rosary). This is your weapon and all you need."
     
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    yes, we cannot cure the covid/flu epidemic, but we can live with it...
     
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    Absolutely, yes. This is also evident from the Secret of Akita of 13 October 1973, which, according to Pope Benedict, is similar to the Third Secet of Fatima. Also, the account of the Third Secret as portrayed in the book "A pathway under the gaze of Mary" is similar to Akita and to JP II's Fulda description of the Fatima Secret. From memory: "The tip of the spear as a flame touches the axis of the earth. It shudders. Seas, rivers and clouds leave their boundaries, and in a vortex millions of people perish from one hour to the next...."
     
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    The narrative has radically changed since the beginning of the year. In January, the propaganda of imminent Ukrainian/NATO victory was still quite dominant, complete with rumours of Putin's demise in an inevitable coup. At the end of the year, we are aware that NATO is being sent packing with its tail between its legs and that the original narrative was a combination of wishful thinking and outright lies. The geopolitical situation seems to have returned to one more compatible with that of what has been long-term Catholic prophesy.
     
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    I am guessing NATO was misrepresenting things all along. There were many independent journalists who warned of this all along. What a twisted business!
     
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    Did Pope JPII say Florence or Florida will float away? More than likely Florida, since Florence is inland. :eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Oh dear. :eek::(
     
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    Florida is what Malachi Martin said in the video.
     
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    Update: I have now watched parts of the video. It is clear that Fr. Malachi Martin gives a more detailed account of what St. JP II said in Fulda in 1980, compared to the transcript in "Stimme des Glaubens" published in October 1981. As has been pointed out by others, the crucial parts in the video about the 3rd Secret of Fatima start around 16.25 min of the video.

    I trust Fr. Malachi Martin very much. After all, he warned us as early as in the 1990s about a 'nudged' papal resignation. At the same time, over 25 years ago, he warned us that the 3rd Secret of Fatima "has to do with Kiev and Moscow" but he couldn't tell us any more, due to his oath. This is astounding, since Kiev and Moscow, Russia's old and new capitals, have never been at war with each other but now they are.

    Whilst I trust Fr. Martin very much, I wonder if his account of the Fulda 1980 statements of JP II might be slightly less accurate than the written account given in Stimme des Glaubens in 1981. Perhaps, Fr. Martin got mixed up with his own knowledge about the 3rd Secret and included things in his JP II-quote which St. JP II did not actually say?
     
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