PADRAIG'S DREAM ABOUT KIEV MENTIONED IN AN ARCHIVED SPIRIT DAILY

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  1. padraig

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    Here we have a very very, very, very bad Pope indeed
     
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    ....and some very, very very bad Cardinals and Bishops behind him
     
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    Don't tell me none of this matters

    It does.
     
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    Of course I am not saying that. A holy pope would make all the difference. The graces at Mass from a bad priest are not the same as Our Lady told St Catherine Laboure
    But the Mass remains valid. St Thomas Aquinas I believe teaches this. I am hoping the consecration will be accepted in spite of the the state of soul of the the pope who does the consecration. Any one would move heaven and earth to go to Padre Pio to confession but if I were dying and the only priest available was a bad priest I would be grateful for confession and absolution and anointing.. As long as he properly performed the sacrament the absolution would be valid. Just trying to explain my thoughts here.
     
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    This is not the Mass.
     
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    It is different.
     
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    I think the question is whether he will fully comply with Our Lady's request.
     
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    The closest I can find is of Abraham being asked to Sacrifice Isaac.

    The Pope as Abraham / Moses is being asked as the representative of the whole people to walk forward I Faith..

    To do the Sacrifice/Consecration.

    This is not magic.

    It requires Faith from Moses/ Abraham and the Hy Father.

    I am not convinced Pope Francis has ever, ever shown any signs of such Faith.
     
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    If the Pope were Harry Potter and the Consecration were magic, then maybe.
     
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    Do you really think k that Pope Francis is better than the Saint Popes who went before him in doing g This?
     
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    That suddenly despite all the evidence of all he has done before and with no evidence of sudden conversion he is going to better the sai t/ Pope's who went before him?

    How?
     
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    He's obeying Our Lady's request more fully than any previous pope. I will not judge his heart, but the question Jesus once asked comes to mind: " “What do you think? A man had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work in the vineyard today.’ The boy answered, ‘I will not.’ But later he had a change of heart and went. The father went to the other son and said the same thing. This boy answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but did not go. Which of the two did his father’s will?"
     
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    Certainly, this consecration is not perfect either, but it names Russia, includes the bishops around the world, and has a spirit of reparation to it.

    I wasn't alive yet in 1984, but did that consecration have the excitement and movement of the laity and bishops behind it that we're seeing right now for this one?
     
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    PF I was alive but sadly I don’t remember the build up to the 1984 entrustment. I know that one bishop said the prayers in St Basils in the heart of the Kremlin. However as Russia was not to be named I dimly recall disappointment.

    AED is right, Aquinas does talk about a bad priest still confecting a valid Eucharist. It’s one of the very few things I know about him.

    So many good and holy people are joining in with this by prayer and sacrifice. On Fr Heilman’s Facebook page there are people fasting for days up to the 25th. And holy bishops like mine are joining in as Our Lady asked.

    I hope for the best because Our Lady is not to be outdone in generosity. She didn’t say the Pope had to be holy, just that he consecrate Russia. She will, I’m sure, hear the prayers of priests and laity who join in.
     
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    he may have had a beginning of the holy fear of God; which is often the initial spark of conversion, in this case because of the threat of nuclear war
     
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    Well we will know very very shortly.

    Life is full of surprises :):)
     
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    However if it does work out well God would to be placing a very, very bad Pope in a very, very good light.

    He would also appear to be placing His blessings on all Pope Francisco's future actions.

    But what do I know.?

    I can't see the logic in in all..
     
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    I think a lot of this is wishful thinking..
     
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    Padraig, you speak of moving to Italy. It’s funny, I’ve fantasised about living in Ireland!

    Just a couple of questions if I may: do you speak the language? Where do you think you will live? Italian regions speak their own version of the language. Would you take the dogs? There have been cases where dogs have been poisoned by locals, possibly afraid the dogs will hunt their prey. The culture there can be very different.

    Fr Amorth talked about the huge upswing of witchcraft in Italy.

    I’m not wanting to be overly negative as I love Italy, speak some Italian and travel there whenever I can. The food and wine are delicious and the climate better for older bones…
     
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    Jesse Romero on today's podcast of Jesus 911 said it is the office of the pope not the holiness of the pope that is vital to the consecration and that he must specifically name Russia. I had not heard his show when I posted my thoughts. He is concerned that the consecration might be too late.:( I sure hope he is wrong about that.
     

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