Just to clarify: I posted a video that mentions a passage on the Anti-Christ from Maria Valtorta´s book but I did not in any way suggest or imply that that passage refers to the current pope. But he may well be paving the way for a successor... After all, the passage in Maria Valtorta´s book does indeed refer to the Anti-Christ coming from the "Apostolic College" and at La Salette Our Blessed Mother did state that "Rome would become the seat of the Anti-Christ."
Blizzard, I am not sure if Our Lady stated that actually at La Salette or if that was part of a later message she gave to Melanie Calvat. It may have been part of a secret that might not be approved by the Church (probably for obvious reasons). The Church has approved the apparition and I think what Our Lady stated there to the 2 children is also approved. I don't have time today to check that. It doesn't matter, because Akita mentions much of the same thing for those of us with discernment. The danger is, however, when researching the later message of La Salette, one ends up on sede, or sede-leaning websites. Just FYI.
I also think the whole message is approved but can´t be sure. And, yes, Akita says basically the same. Father Gobbi, I understand, may be controversial to some but in many messages allegedly given by the Blessed Mother he stated the very same thing: Humanity has fallen under the domination of Satan and of his great power, exercised with the satanic and masonic forces; my Church has become obscured by his smoke which has penetrated into it. Errors are being taught and propagated, causing many to lose true faith in Christ and in his Gospel; the holy Law of God is openly violated; sin is committed and often even justified, and thus the light of grace and of the divine presence is lost; unity is deeply split apart by a strong contestation directed against the Magisterium, and especially against the Pope; and the wound caused by painful lacerations becomes ever wider. (Dec 31, 1997) The black beast like a leopard indicates Freemasonry; the beast with two horns like a lamb indicates Freemasonry infiltrated through the whole of the church, that is ecclesiastical Masonry, which has spread especially among the members of the Hierarchy. This Masonic infiltration, in the Church, was already predicted by Me in Fatima, when I announced to you that Satan would be introduced up to the summit of the Church. If the task of Masonry is to lead souls to perdition, bringing them to the worship of a false god, the purpose of Ecclesiastical Masonry is instead the destruction of Christ and his Church, building a new idol, namely a false christ and a false church (June 13, 1989) My Church will be shaken by a mighty wind of 'apostasy and disbelief, while the one who opposes Christ will enter in its interior, thus bringing to fruition the abomination of desolation, which is mentioned by Divine Scripture. (Mar 15, 1993) Good point.
Yes, we have to be careful about even approved apparitions. Sometimes parts are approved and other parts are not. Even the holiest of visionaries can get things wrong. I learned recently from EWTN that St. Faustina was told by an angel to burn her diary, which she did. Fr. Sopoko{sp?} came back and told her, no it wasn't an angel of God who told her to burn the diary but the devil. He told her to just go on writing her diary, but to write down everything she remembered too.
I read a message from Our Lady At Medugorje recently which read that , 'The Whole World' , had fallen under the power of Satan and only through the power of the Holy Spirit would her children see the Signs of the Times in this. Well then if the , 'Whole World'.. by implication this means the Church as well. I it were otherwise she would have said..the whole world with the exception of the Church. If the Church has fallen under Lucifer's spell this of course means the Papacy itself. Of course it does.
That´s basically true but in the case of Sister Faustina my gut feeling is that she was an open door to Heaven, one of the greatest visionaries. All that she wrote is divinely inspired if not directly from God. It is indeed Our Lord speaking, I recognize his voice, his tone, his love. It is the same voice, tone and love of the Gospels. But that´s just me, of course.
I definitely AGREE! That's what I meant when I said even the holiest of visionaries can get things wrong. St. Faustina mistook the devil for an angel of light in one instance,as the devil was trying to destroy Jesus' great work of mercy, but I would bet my life the diary is straight from God.
St. Faustina had a special mission especially for these times, and yes, it is definitely God speaking. (throwing my 2 cents in)
I wasn't suggesting that anyone on this forum is accusing Pope Francis of being a false prophet or even the False Prophet. When searching online for an article I had read about an American priest who was in Argentina around the time Fr. Begoglio was banished to Cordoba, I was flabbergasted at the number of "Pope Francis False Prophet" links that showed up in the search results. I didn't type anything into the search box about prophets, false or otherwise, yet the search results were full of it. I still can't find the article I was looking for. In other searches, I did come across references to Pope John Paul, Pope Benedict and at least one priest who had their approval, using the same kind of language which everyone now identifies with Pope Francis. Language like "dialogue", "encounter and personal relationship with Jesus", etc. as well as warning us against a kind of rules based faith excluding love and mercy (the last is my own understanding of their message). Contrary to what the Pope's modernist sycophants and their secular media friends would have us believe, Pope Francis didn't invent the language of love and mercy. Those of us with concerns about this papacy also need to remember that. There's nothing new in the notion that the False Prophet could be a Bishop of the Church but I don't believe that any Catholic source has ever suggested that he will be the Pope. I suppose an anti-Pope would be a likely contender but in that case there would be more than one person claiming to be Pope. We certainly don't have two claimants to the papacy now. I truly believe that when the final persecution comes, Jesus will make sure that His Church is led by a holy Pope who will be hated by the world led by the Antichrist and that the choice between good and evil will be clear to us. I'm inclined to believe you that the way is being paved for the onset of the False Prophet. If that's what's happening, I don't believe that Pope Francis is doing so intentionally. Some of his friends on the other hand............??? Anyway, there are a few milestones we haven't reached yet before everything goes pear shaped. The Gospel hasn't been preached to the whole world and "all Israel" hasn't been brought into the fold are two of those milestones. There's also the great apostasy and no doubt there are other milestones which I don't know about.
Thanks HH, I can never remember this for some reason. Lol. I have listened to other members like yourself who have stated that MDM is condemned and I have stayed away, I suppose this why I forget. I agree with Blizzard (and Dolours and others) also that the pope is paving the way for the False Prophet and the Antichrist. Awhile ago, I was looking for an explanation of the book of Revelations and other scriptures that appear to be related to the "End Times" and I came across a lot of explanations for the 70th week of Daniel and they tried to relate 1260, 1290 and 1335 days together. Most of the explanations that I came across on the Internet were from protestants. Sensus Fidelium does have a video in which they explain the 1290 days and the 1335 days are related to the time of the Antichrist but I don't believe that I have ever seen an explanation for the 1260 days discussed in Rev. 11 & 12 from a Catholic. Personally, I have grown to question if the 1260 days is directly related to the Antichrist or even the False Prophet. The only connection that is made to "people" and the 1260 days in scripture is to the two witnesses and to the woman clothed with the sun (WCWTS). I truly believe that we are in Revelation 12 and that the "sign" in 2017 related to Virgo and Jupiter is evidence of such and I also believe that the 1260 days relates to the current pontificate but I do not believe that it relates to the Antichrist or the False Prophet. In my estimation the 1260 days ends on March 18th of next year which imo is the particular 3/18 that the Medjugorje seers have spoken of. I also think that this may have been revealed to me spiritually but I can't be certain where it came from, so I won't say anything further about it at this time for fear of misleading anyone. I would like to hear the thoughts of others here on the 1260 days mentioned in Rev 11 and Rev 12 if you have any. Thanks. *** I do want to mention that it is a bit curious that the "sign" of Virgo/Jupiter which many people believe was the WCWTS was believed to complete on September 23/24, 2017 and that UN meeting that Ezdras is concerned about is scheduled for this September 23/24. I also came across the following meeting which is scheduled for this 9/23 in NYC. https://usa.greekreporter.com/2019/...r-in-new-york-city-for-2019-concordia-summit/ So there will be a lot of world leaders gathered in NYC on 9/23.
I think that prayer is so powerful that together we can actually effect change in the hardest of hearts. When we are told to pray for our enemies, it makes total sense. If they accept the graces imparted to them through our prayer, they may convert and become our greatest allies, heroes and even saints! God can do anything...but He will not remove our free will...that however does not remove our obligation to pray for our enemies. As our Lady said at the wedding at Cana....just do as He says. Who are we to question the will of the Lord. Pray for our enemies.....you’ll be blessed in eternity if you are obedient to the will of God...no matter how hard it can be.
Thanks Carol! Your post, as well as others, prove it is worth to spend some time to read what has been offered in this forum, although I may not have the same amount of time to respond 3-4 times a day. Concordia meeting of new technology/energy in New York at the same time as the UN climate summit! Seems something big is coming, that goes beyond the usual talk of percentages carbon, new solar panels or wind mills, that frankly have become so deluded talk that even defenders of Climate find it unsatisfactory, what to say about people who do not believe it at all. Indeed, what we need is radically new source of energy, different from the nuclear, and powerful enough to substitute the carbon fuels. The pope called for that on Sept 1: "Now is the time to abandon our dependence on fossil fuels and move, quickly and decisively, towards forms of clean energy and a sustainable and circular economy." https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/0...ummit-of-particular-importance-to-save-world/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My understanding of the 1260 days is, there are two sets of 1260 days (second is 1335), that combined give 7 years the last week, BUT they may be separated from each other in time. The 70th week of Daniel may have a gap inside, as there is a gap between the 69th and 70th week, that is now lasting almost 2000 years, much longer than the entire 69 weeks = 483 years. The era of peace may happen in that gap. Also the war in heaven, imo, is a big enough event to just finish for months....It is clearly said it starts with the rapture of manchild, and ends with casting down satan and starting persecution of woman. I.e. for the duration of the war, the woman is NOT persecuted! (the era of peace). It can last anywhere from years to decades or even more, I don't know. Therefore, as Jesus said, we cannot know in advance when the Second Coming is, and therefore when exactly the future antichrist will rise (because everyone can add up to that date 1335 days and get the Second Coming date or close enough). There are a number of preconditions, one of which is the Jewish en masse acceptance of Jesus as Messiah that still remains a future event. The other is the Gospel to be proclaimed to the ends of the world/universe, depending on the translation of the original Greek word in Mark 16 that is Cosmos. And because God knows the right meaning of the word that He put in the mind of His evangelist, and that does not depend on our modern translations, it is better we humbly submit to His plan rather than pretending we hold His hand and know all of it. ================================== As of the question of the schism, as pope Francis warned, it is not something to be desired and hopefully will be averted. I can't imagine, a second pope elected or what? If that occurs, the billion wide Church will not have many traditionalists in it, if they mostly opt for a traditional church separated from Rome (or even if its headquarters are also in Rome). It will go down for centuries, with unimaginable consequences. The bigger church will accept even more new things that now are on hold thanks to the traditionalists in it. One may say, how more true the traditional church would be...but are we the judges? Only God judges. And His last prayer on the Supper was, "That they all may be one..". He knows well that ALL OF US are sinners. Things to consider by some prelates who think they know it all better, or they are the most holy ones. Yes they cannot have their papal candidate elected, because they are greatly outnumbered. So what? Is that a reason for a schism? Did the saints in the past separate from the Church only because they were voices in the desert? Rather they remained in the desert or monasteries, showing with THEIR OWN EXAMPLE to the vast majority of sinful clergy how it should be done. I don't see the same zeal and practice in today's proponents of an all clean church, that frankly has never existed on Earth even in the first centuries when God's people were closer to Jesus. I hope those prelates and their followers will realize it is never possible they know it all better, rather God wants them to stay and work from inside the Church for whatever they are inspired. People are given free will.
Ezdras, You're very welcome! I just want to share the following with you about the 1290 days and 1335 days. If I remember correctly and I think that I do, on the Sensus Fidelium video that I am referring to the priest stated the following - the Antichrist's horrific reign will last 1290 days (what some refer to as the later half of the 70th week of Daniel) then the AC and the FP are thrown into the pool of fire alive and the next 45 days is expected to consist of our judgment (etc.). If I can find the video that I am referring to I will post it for you. Of course, 1290 and 45 is 1335. This all makes complete sense to me but any explanation on 1260 days has not been very clear and has not come from a Catholic theologian. I will know soon enough if I am correct about the information that I feel that I have received, I pray that it was from heaven. I did not hear a voice or anything like that. I simply woke up one morning and my waking thought was to check something. A few weeks ago, I also witnessed a very strange light in my backyard after a heavy rainfall. It was as if someone was doing Morse code with a mirror and when I looked at it through binoculars the light has the shape of a cross. I do have a still photo of the cross. Picture this light pulsating, it was a bit startling. I have never seen anything like it before or since. Well, God bless and we'll keep praying together and hoping for God's will to be done. This contains a link to one of the videos I was referring to https://gloria.tv/video/jk4Vuak6hWnC3bSCvx9GHmHiM Here they are: PS - I should watch them again myself because it has been awhile since I have watched them. PPS - I also want to mention regarding Pope Francis that he will be pope for 7 years comes March 13th. Like I said in an earlier post here, I do not believe that he is the AC or the FP but I do think that we are meant to think of being close to the time of the AC and the FP. Iow, I believe that this is part of God's plan to bring us back to him. This is the secondary reason why I believe that this coming March 18th will be the one that the Medjugorje seers have spoken of. On a final note, every time a newscaster mentioned that it has been 18 years since the 9/11 attacks I thought of Garabandal because the number 18 is very significant to the apparitions there. Well, again we'll soon see.
That great apostasy might be closer than we thought. Inside the Vatican website has a new "Letter" from Dr. Robert Moynihan published on September 9th. It's the first in a series of articles Dr. Moynihan intends to write and then collate following his recent meeting with Archbishop Vigano. The title of this one is "A New Church?". This thread has rambled a bit so I'm going to start a new thread for Dr. Moynihan's letters because his articles are always well written and insightful.
I agree, Ezdras. I do not get a good feeling at all from Valtorta's writings. They don't add up. The best way I can describe the feeling is: oogy, not right, uneasy.
While some of us may resist the idea that a Pope may be a false prophet or even THE False Prophet I think we should remain open to that possibility. Fulton Sheen said he will "set up a Counter-Church which will be the ape of the Church because he, the Devil, is the ape of God". Now who can set up a counter-church? A politician? A humanitarian? A billionaire? Would 1.2 billion Catholics follow one of them no matter how powerful he were? “The Antichrist will not be so called; otherwise he would have no followers. He will not wear red tights, nor vomit sulphur, nor carry a trident nor wave an arrowed tail as Mephistopheles in Faust. This masquerade has helped the Devil convince men that he does not exist. When no man recognizes, the more power he exercises. God has defined Himself as ‘I am Who am,’ and the Devil as ‘I am who am not.’ Nowhere in Sacred Scripture do we find warrant for the popular myth of the Devil as a buffoon who is dressed like the first ‘red.’ Rather is he described as an angel fallen from heaven, as ‘the Prince of this world,’ whose business it is to tell us that there is no other world. His logic is simple: if there is no heaven there is no hell; if there is no hell, then there is no sin; if there is no sin, then there is no judge, and if there is no judgment then evil is good and good is evil. But above all these descriptions, Our Lord tells us that he will be so much like Himself that he would deceive even the elect–and certainly no devil ever seen in picture books could deceive even the elect. How will he come in this new age to win followers to his religion? The pre-Communist Russian belief is that he will come disguised as the Great Humanitarian; he will talk peace, prosperity and plenty not as means to lead us to God, but as ends in themselves. . . The third temptation in which Satan asked Christ to adore him and all the kingdoms of the world would be His, will become the temptation to have a new religion without a Cross, a liturgy without a world to come, a religion to destroy a religion, or a politics which is a religion–one that renders unto Caesar even the things that are God’s. In the midst of all his seeming love for humanity and his glib talk of freedom and equality, he will have one great secret which he will tell to no one: he will not believe in God. Because his religion will be brotherhood without the fatherhood of God, he will deceive even the elect. He will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the Church, because he, the Devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the Antichrist that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ.” -Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Carl E. Olsen of Catholic World Report was rather underwhelmed by the Pope's recent in-flight press conferences: https://www.catholicworldreport.com...ntificate-continues-and-the-synod-approaches/ The comments are worth reading too.
