Synod on synodality

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  1. garabandal

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    Jeremiah “My people have been a lost flock; their shepherds have caused them to go astray” (Jer. 50:6).
     
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    We now have some wonderful Cardinals and Bishops who are speaking clearly regarding the Sin-nod (wink wink) on Sin-nod actually; held in Germany. This piece was written by Elizabeth Yore. It is very good and gives me hope that many of our prelates are real shepherds.
    The remnant has published Elizabeth article below.


    SINod on SINodality: Prominent Bishops Resist Great Reset of Catholic Church
    Written by Elizabeth Yore


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    “The 2023 Synod is shaping up into hostile takeover of the Church. If they succeed, it will be the end of the Catholic Church.”
    ~Cardinal Gerhard Müller World Over EWTN, October 6, 2022


    “The synodal process has begun disastrously in Germany, and matters will become worse unless we soon have effective papal corrections on, for instance, Christian sexual morality, women priests, etc…some faithful German Catholics are already talking, not of the synodal way, but the suicidal way.”
    ~Cardinal Pell October 13, 2022


    “The synodal process is being manipulated in the hands of high ranking Vatican officials to push their ideological agenda. Many bishops are concerned that there is a pre-established agenda in Rome. This process is a tool to coverup a pre-established agenda and we have to be very concerned.
    ~Bishop Athanasius Schneider October 22, 2022 World Over



    The Great Reset of the Catholic Church is underway. The venue is not Davos, but rather the Vatican. By cunning and manipulation, the globalists seized power in 2013 by installing their St. Gallen candidate. At long last, Bergoglio’s raison d’être is about to materialize with the transformation of 2000 years of Magisterium and dogma.

    The stage is set at the Vatican. Make no mistake-the Synod on Synodality is the mechanism and catalyst to radically transform the 2000 year Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Accordingly, Bergoglio appointed the most radical of German prelates to oversee the Synod.This is no coincidence. These German prelates have long advocated for radical change in Church moral teaching.

    The enemies of the Catholic Church—New World Order elites—preordained that the Church will eventually submit to secular powers of the Great Reset lords.

    In the 1960s, mass media theorist Marshall McLuhan understood that the “medium is the message.”

    The message embedded in the synodal documents couldn’t be more obvious and radical. Synodal reports are arrayed with images of rainbows, hippies in gay pride shirts and women in chasubles. Welcome to Woodstock on the Tiber—the reboot of the Catholic Church.

    Preliminary documents here and here suggest that the Synod should be more aptly titled, the Sinod on Sinodality—where sin will be normalized and dogmatized. The Catholic world was warned about this day. Recall the celebratory words of Grand Master Gustavo Raffi, head of the Italian Freemasons upon Bergoglio’s election:

    "With Pope Francis, nothing will be more as it was before. It is a clear choice of fraternity for a Church of dialogue, which is not contaminated by the logic and temptations of temporal power…Our hope is that the pontificate of Francis, the Pope who 'comes from the end of the world' can mark the return to the Church-Word instead of the Church-Institution, promoting an open dialogue with the contemporary world, with believers and non-believers, following the springtime of Vatican II."

    It’s time for the papal blinders to come off, Catholics.

    The enemies of the Catholic Church—New World Order elites—preordained that the Church will eventually submit to secular powers of the Great Reset lords. In nine years, Bergoglio delivered the Catholic Church as a willing partner to its global masters. Accordingly, Bergoglio ceded Vatican power to the China Communist Party, the World Economic Forum and the United Nations.

    Will Catholics fight to maintain and restore the moral dogma in the Catholic Church? Or will they submit to the tyranny of the pope of the new world order?

    Cardinals Pell and Müller and Bishop Schneider are urgently sounding the alarm, warning Catholics that the synodal process has been hijacked by radicals with the express purpose to expropriate 2000 years of Catholic moral dogma and subvert with a radical modernist agenda. By elevating the vapid process of a listening tour of inclusivity, synodal fathers are sacralizing dialogue above dogma.

    A doctrinal earthquake is about to explode under the guise of a manipulated papal poll, hell bent on transforming eucharistic processions into pride parades, sacraments into sacrileges, and theology into ecology.

    Will Catholics fight to maintain and restore the moral dogma in the Catholic Church? Or will they submit to the tyranny of the pope of the new world order?

    Are faithful Catholics fed up with the incessant and vicious gaslighting by Bergoglio?

    Will Catholics roundly resist his modernistic manifestos disguised and peddled in the name of mercy, inclusion, dialogue and listening?

    U.S. Bishops’ document states the Catholic Church needs to “accompany with authenticity” and “welcome the LGBTQ+ community.”

    As predicted, the Belgian, German and Flemish Bishop Conferences compiled and submitted their synodal syntheses to the Vatican. The European bishop conferences seek recognition of women priests and homosexual marriage, as well as communion for divorce and remarried. The Bergoglio Church of “who am I to judge” is reignited from the ashes of the burned-out hull of Catholic Europe.

    US Bishops’ Synodal Report

    The USCCB submitted its whiny, sophomoric and trite synodal report generated from its “listening sessions” flush with astonishing euphemistic ambiguity hinting at radical changes in moral dogma. Here’s one of many examples:

    Astonishingly, the USCCB synodal synthesis states (page 7):

    The hope for a welcoming Church expressed itself clearly with the desire to accompany with authenticity LGBTQ+ persons and their families. Many who identify as LGBTQ+ believe they are condemned by Church teachings.” There is an urgent need for guidance as [one parish] begged, we believe we are approaching a real crisis in how to minister to the LGBTQ+ community, some of whom are members of our own families. We need help, support, and clarity.’” Often families feel torn between remaining in the church and supporting their loved ones.”In order to become a more welcoming Church there is a deep need for ongoing discernment of the whole Church on how best to accompany our LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters.”

    WELCOME LGBTQ+


    How will the synodal bishops address the ever expanding perverse plus: “+” category in the LGBTQ+ community? The latest tally of gender ideation species reaches 112 genders variations with a sordid array of sexual fetishes and prurient preferences.The number of +++ genders grow every day. Will they be included or excluded in the synodal sexual preference grab bag?

    The Great Reset of the Catholic Church brought to you by Jorge Mario Bergoglio will be unveiled at the 2023 Sinod on Sinodality.

    Will the synodal fathers in the name of the inclusive “tent” bless polygamy “marriages?”

    Will there be an x-rated working group discussion and listening session at the Vatican synod on zoophilia or coprophagia? Wonder which prelates will preside over that discussion?

    Grab your rosaries, Catholics. You’ve been forewarned. It’s now or never. We must resist this Sinod with all our might.

    The Great Reset of the Catholic Church brought to you by Jorge Mario Bergoglio will be unveiled at the 2023 Sinod on Sinodality.
     
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  3. garabandal

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    Perfectly articulated.

    The Great Reset of the Catholic Church.
     
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    I think the main target is the papal primacy and the priesthood: in the end they want to deny the mediation of the priesthood between God and men; and submitting everything to the authority of the laity, a revival of medieval heresies like Joaquinism and Catharism that preached the abolition of the church hierarchy.
     
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    "Sr. Becquart even went as far as to say that the goal was to “get rid of the clerical Church.” She, however, claimed that this radical proposition was not actually a call for an entirely new Church, but a call for an entirely different Church. She contrasted two images to demonstrate her point, the first a painting of the Holy Spirit descending on Pope Pius IX at the opening of the First Vatican Council, and the second a photo of Pope Francis standing at a table with both clergy and lay people. Although the pope is ultimately the one that promulgates the decrees of a council, Sr. Becquart said that she did not like the image because it does not give the impression of an inclusive Church."
     
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    So, there's the "Mystical Body of Christ" and "the church of the busy (with the world) body". Lines are being drawn.....

    "May God arise and let His enemies be scattered, and let all those that hate Him flee before His face."
     
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    Years ago when I was a child a Credit Union was formed in our Parish , with my father as one of the Founders.

    As the years rolled on it became wildly successful, growing to other Parishes in the City and controlling now many millions of pounds.

    The fly in the ointment, as with other similar organisations is who controls it? They have a meeting once a year to which pretty well no one wants to come and they have to try to entice members to show up. So it would be very easy for a small group of determined people to show up and take control.

    We can see this in a huge range of organisations such as Unions, School Boards, Parish Councils and so on. Leftists know this and thrive on it.

    I strongly suspect this Synodalilty thing is simply a vehicle for people with an agenda. It is like driving a car. You set it up, claim it is Democratic representing the views of the Faithful and then you simply drive it away wherever you want it. That is why they were so keen on setting up things like Bishops Conferences and Parish Councils. It is the easiest thing in the World to slip in and take over.

    People, including Priests, Bishops and Cardinals led very busy lives. People , unless they are half insane , have a natural distaste for Meetings and loads of talking. If some person or group of people give the appearance of being in charge and actually wanting to go to meetings, the rest of us are happy to leave them to it. They know this and take advantage of it.

    It one big , huge, con job.

    It was the same things at Vatican 2, the Modernist German, French and Dutch Bishops hijacked it and drove it where they willed.
     
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    This is the whole problem in a nutshell. Brilliantly succinct.
     
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    Agree!!!
     
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    Once, when I was very young, I attended a Communist Party Meeting out of curiosity.

    Several things surprised me there. Firstly many people attending I recognised from the Media as they were very well known. Prominent Academics, Trade Union Leaders, Journalists, Social Commentators, Influencers, etc. One thing they all had in common was that not one of them identified as Communists. In other words they were secret Communists. They kept their Part Membership very much hidden. I had no idea from their Public Profiles of writings that they were Hard Line Left Wingers.

    Another things which was surprising was how undemocratic the whole thing was. The meeting was told the 'Party Line'. It was just left out for them from the Communist Internationale. So your views on say, Cuba, Agriculture, Unions, and Political Party was given to you. No dissent or discussion, a kind of prepackaged deal cooked up far up the chain. Since in those days the Irish Communist Party was Stalinist and allied to still Soviet Russia I could write the script myself. It was the same as the _Polit bureau in Russia.

    Another thing was how very, very influential they were. They punched far, far above their weight. They must have heavily influenced whole swathes of society.
    At the end of it a gentleman came up and talked to me. I had not planed to go to the meeting and told no one I was going. I just saw a little notice in the street and walked in on impulse right out of the blue. This guy was well dressed in late middle age. Although I had spoken to no one they already knew all about me. They knew that my father was a right wing Conservative Catholic, edited a political paper and was prominent in political circles. They were very curious indeed as to why I was there and very interested in if I was a practicing Catholic.

    It was a real eye opener.

    Anyway this Synod on Synodality reminds me of all that stuff I witnessed as a youth. I never went back. Even back then I knew it was all about control.

    Everyone should attend a Communist Party Meeting at least once in their life. It is a Real Teacher.

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    The International

    Arise ye workers from your slumbers
    Arise ye prisoners of want
    For reason in revolt now thunders
    And at last ends the age of cant.

    Away with all your superstitions
    Servile masses arise, arise
    We’ll change henceforth the old tradition
    And spurn the dust to win the prize.

    Refrain:
    So comrades, come rally
    And the last fight let us face
    The Internationale unites the human race.

    No more deluded by reaction
    On tyrants only we’ll make war
    The soldiers too will take strike action
    They’ll break ranks and fight no more
    And if those cannibals keep trying
    To sacrifice us to their pride
    They soon shall hear the bullets flying
    We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

    No saviour from on high delivers
    No faith have we in prince or peer
    Our own right hand the chains must shiver
    Chains of hatred, greed and fear
    E’er the thieves will out with their booty
    And give to all a happier lot.
    Each at the forge must do their duty
    And we’ll strike while the iron is hot.


     
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    "If My requests are not granted, Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will suffer much and various nations will be annihilated."

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  15. Lois

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    My own experience is quite different, but the end view is pretty much the same. My father never knew his dad. His father's family was very into the "Lodge" in New Brunswick. Irish protestants, all. My grandmother was from a very Irish Catholic family who had left Ireland for PEI, and later relocated to New Brunswick. Her father was heavy into the union and was found dead in a drydock ~ a mysterious accident. My grandfather converted to Catholicism and married my grandmother, much to the dismay of both families. 16 days before my father was born, my grandfather met the same end as the father-in-law he never knew.

    So, dad was dropped off in the USA to join the Navy. Neither side of the family really bothered with him. He met & married my mom and they had their family. We moved every 2-3 years. Loved our visits "home to CB", where my mother is from, because extended family was something we didn't have and military families sometimes aren't welcome in some communities.

    Anyway, dad's last post was in Texas. My favourite state, as we had moved there twice, 2 different cities.

    When we arrived in CB, we were happy ~ family galore!!! But we never fit in. I never really understood why until I finally realized how anti American so many people seem to be. I embraced the new country, gave over 20 years working in the public service and during that time, tried very hard to relearn the faith I had lost. I watched for 20 years the slow methodical change in the federal public service, thinking I was crazy in watching what was happening. They always wanted our "input". But it was all about seeing who the misfits were as they did what they had planned all along anyway. And the worst of it is, from what I see now, the seeds for this were planted in this very diocese - Antigonish. (which ironically means, from Mi'kmaq, "the place where the tree branches are torn off by bears gathering beechnuts".)

    BLM, Orange shirt day, "white priviledge" etc etc etc. All promoted and accepted by the powers that be and many many of the people. The Antigonish Movement pretty much is the "bear" in the story. And boy has it gathered alot of nuts...

    For myself, I am a child of God, albeit a sinful one. I try to see others in the same light. But it's getting more difficult by the day.

    Jesus, I trust in You.
     
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    [​IMG]Pope Francis meeting the German Bishops on Thursday (ANSA)
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    German bishops discuss Synodal Path with the Curia
    German Bishops gathered in Rome for their “ad Limina visit” meet with the heads of the Vatican's dicasteries to discuss the ongoing German Synodal Path.

    By Vatican news staff reporter

    The German Bishops were in Rome this week for their “ad limina visit” and met with Pope Francis on Thursday.

    As they concluded their visit, on Friday, the bishops attended a meeting with the Heads of some Dicasteries of the Roman Curia at the Augustinianum Institute in Rome to reflect together on the ongoing German Synodal Path.

    This process, was convened in 2019, before the worldwide convocation of the 2021-2024 Synod on Synodality, to discuss proposals for change in the Catholic Church in response to sexual abuse crisis in the German Church.

    Cardinal Parolin highlights “risk of reforms of the Church, but not within the Church"
    According to a joint statement issued after the session, discussions were moderated by Cardinal Pietro Parolin. In his introductory remarks, the Secretary of State after "the importance of the meeting as a moment of sharing and grace and of unity in differences", mentioned the concerns raised by the Synodal Path, notably, the “risk of reforms of the Church, but not within the Church".

    Bishop Georg Bätzing 's introduction
    In his introduction to the debate Bishop Georg Bätzing of Limburg, President of the German Bishops’ Conference DBK) , reviewed the work and proposals collected by the German Synod and emphasized "its spirit based on listening to the People of God and the pain for the abuses committed by members of the clergy".

    Bishop Bätzing then presented the issues addressed in the German Synodal Path: Power and division of powers in the Church - Common participation and missionary planning; Priestly life today; Women in Church ministries and offices; Living in relationships that work - Living love in sexuality and in the couple relationship.

    Finally, the president of the German bishops expressed his appreciation for the work of the 2021-2024 Synod on synodality and Pope Francis’ decision to prolong it by one year.

    Concerns and reservations on the German Synodal Path
    For their part, according to the joint statement, Cardinal Luis Francisco Ladaria, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, and Cardinal Marc Ouellet, Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, expressed "with frankness and clarity their concerns and reservations regarding the methodology, contents and proposals of the Synodal Way. They therefore proposed “for the benefit of the unity of the Church and her evangelizing mission, that the requests that have emerged so far be included in the Synod of the universal Church".

    Several German bishops and representatives of the Curia participated in the subsequent open dialogue.

    The discussion highlighted the importance and the urgent need of defining and deepening some of the themes emerged from the German Synodal Path.

    At the same time, they all shared awareness that "they are on a journey with all the holy and patient People of God”, despite differences.

    In this sense, many interventions “pointed to the centrality of evangelization and mission as the ultimate goal of the ongoing processes”, as well as the awareness on the fact that certain issues cannot be disposed of .

    A constructive debate
    The German bishops also presented some proposals, including that of "a moratorium" on the German Synodal Way which, however, was rejected. Moreover they stressed the need to encourage "further reflection and mutual listening in the light of the perplexities that have arisen".

    Concluding the session, Cardinal Parolin expressed his appreciation for the debate, which he highlighted as "necessary and constructive" since it "cannot be ignored" in the ongoing listening processes.

    19 November 2022, 11:04

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    Here's a very strong priest telling his congregation what to do, not the other way around. It seems that the flock, in many parishes, has taken over the shepherding, as is the obvious goal of this Synod. If more pastors were like this priest in Lousiana their congregations wouldn't be so lost. He's a boss!

     
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    Excellente! File that one away!:)
     

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