Prominent clergy, scholars accuse Pope Francis of heresy in open letter

It was Jesus who said 'let your yes be yes and your no be no. Anything less is from the evil one'. By this our Lord is telling us all to clarify the truth and not muddy it. Pope Francis has caused great scandal by his silence to the Dubia Cardinals. But he can't answer truthfully, as he knows Jesus teaching on divorce and remarriage, which his document seems to reject and he also knows biblical teachings about giving communion to those in mortal sin. So he remains silent, which speaks loud to his position.

 

And they are moving things forward very quickly even recklessly. Truly I believe they know their time is short.

 

They say allcivilisations near their end turn to sexual depravity. It was certainly true of the Romans. Then God pushes the Red Button and they are gone. It's probably true that they know this in their own hearts, poor people.

Hell is terrible and it is real.

 

It was the way Jimmy Aikan responded to the caller on the Catholic Answers radio phone-in which got people's backs up. His only response was to call into question the qualifications of the accusers and to say that the stang/staff carried by the Pope was symbolic of the Blessed Trinity. It was a blatant attempt to dismiss the accusations as the work of people with an inadequate understanding of Church teaching because they didn't have a doctorate in theology.

Martin Luther did pass judgement on a Pope as well as dissenting from Church teaching and spreading heresy. He was given an opportunity to recant and cease preaching heresy but refused and was excommunicated. The people who signed the letter haven't judged the Pope. They have drawn the attention of all the Bishops of the world to what appear to be heretical beliefs held by Pope Francis and have provided evidence which supports their accusation. They have made it clear that they don't have the authority to make a definitive ruling on the matter and have asked the Bishops to examine the evidence and make a determination as to whether or not Pope Francis is, in fact, a heretic. They have given no indication whatsoever that they will dissent from any decision made by Bishops competent to make such a determination.

Jesus promised that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the Church. He made no such promise to individual Popes, otherwise we wouldn't have had bad Pope in the past and it wouldn't have been necessary for popes and bishops to be reminded of their sacred duty by individuals who are now canonised saints.

I don't doubt that the men who signed the letter weighed carefully the consequences of what they were doing and the impact it would have when it was published. One comment I read recently summed up their dilemma when the person asked which is worse: a pope leading the Church into schism or a Pope leading the Church into heresy? As of now, there is no sign of a schism but there are plenty of signs that the Pope's teaching and actions, or failure to act, are leading people into heresy along with signs that heresy is spreading throughout the Church with no attempt by Pope Francis to curtail it.

Many people are aware of what is happening, mainly through reports in the secular press which is strongly opposed to Catholic teaching on marriage, sexual morality and matters pertaining to conscience. This letter lets all the Bishops know that it isn't just uneducated ultra right-wing, conservative American nutters or disgruntled clergymen who have problems with Pope Francis because they don't like his politics or because they are lacking in mercy. Fr. Nichols signing that letter is further proof that it isn't just rad-trads or political factions who have problems with the direction Pope Francis is leading the Church.

There's a synod coming up and the Germans who fund the churches in Latin America have already declared that Church pastoral practice will, once again, be permitted to contradict settled Church teaching, this time with regard to same-sex unions. They have also declared that women will be ordained, despite a previous Pope's infallible declaration that the Church has no authority to ordain women. We don't know what stories are being spun to their brother Bishops in Latin America and elsewhere by the likes of Cardinal Maradiaga. Whether or not this letter contains proof that the Pope is a formal heretic, it contains sufficient detail to inform Bishops that heresy is spreading in pastoral practice with the consent of Bishops using Amoris Laetitia and their support from Pope Francis to justify it.

Even if there's no formal response to the letter, its publication might just be enough to save the Church from the gates of Hell prevailing against it. If so, we might never know. But God knows.

 

Yes...keep praying for the consecration of Russia! It might be the only solution we have. It was not a suggestion...It was a mandate from heaven! Listen to our mother.

 

As the pope has been telling the world...”Make a mess”....well he and they sure are!

 

The devil makes a mess. God doesn't, God brings order and peace. Hell is a mess. Souls that are in grave sin are a mess. Souls without God are a mess. Souls that grow towards God grow towards a new Eden. God's saints are anything but a mess. The Blessed Mother is not a mess, which is one of the reasons why we celebrate her virginity.

The souls is rather like a garden and we the gardeners, we pull up the weeds and plant the flowers. We impose order. A garden is a mess when it is full of weeds and grows uncontrolled.

Pope Francis wants to bring to the Church a permanent state of Revolution. But the inherent proper State of the Church is to conserve the past by building on it. To be of it's very nature conservative. To hate innovation. To hate and oppose innovation in any of its many forms but especially innovation in theology.

It is the role of the Roman Pontiff as Pastor to act as Shepherd in preserving and protecting the Truths and Traditions of the Church, not to tear them down.

Pope Francis , far from bringing me peace and a sense of confidence creates grace unease and concern. He does indeed do what its says on the tin. He creates a mess. He creates a huge, huge mess. The biggest in the entire history of the Church.. More than that he tells us he wishes to create a mess. That a mess is a great and good thing.

If a child creates a mess it's parents and teachers punish it.

Pope Francis is a messer.

I wish he'd take a long, long holiday and give us all a bit of peace and quiet. I am so very,very,very tired of the constant mess.

So very,very tired of it all. He exhausts me.

Where on Earth does he get the energy? He seems constantly to be flying here there and everywhere. Is there not a very, very great deal for him to do in the colossal mess that is the Vatican? Oh sorry; I forgot ; he likes it that way.

 

He has a lot of help padraig. Both inside and outside the church. Many people been working hard for a man like him to be elected Pope.
I know exactly what you mean about disorder. Disorder and chaos is taxing. I can not help but see it and if I have dominion over it to begin putting things in order as best I can. If I can't then I simply won't be around it. It is exhausting to be around for any length of time let alone live in it.
In nature, there is an observable natural order to things. It is one reason why I think it is so energizing to spend some time immersed in it.
The idea of a church in a state of revolution is spot on. In a state of revolution, truth is completely relative to the group who has the means of subversion or brute force to impose their will.
Some people are energized by chaos and disorder, by a constant state of revolution.
I think it is plainly obvious that pope Francis believes that the church was ordered in a way that was wrong for a very long time. This is why he encourages this state of chaos. In the belief that by messing things up they will be put in their right state. Obviously there are many inside the church in positions of influence who hold this hope as well.
I think this hope or belief that these men have has it's modern roots are in the teaching of men such as Chardin. A constant state of relativism and secular humanist worship is the result. A sort of revolution 24/7. But it goes back much further.

Many people who today call themselves the Jews have held this same driving compulsion for revolution in the modern age since the destruction of the temple and the rise of Christendom. They have subversively supported it in every nation, society, and culture they live among. The Church has always held it in check but over the last century has stopped actively fighting against it and now it seems as if it has instead adopted the same methods.

I am sure there are some pretty big celebrations over this. They won't last.

 

Thanks Dolours, I was not aware of this phone in situation or Akin's defense of that stang he was toting around. I must have missed that. I think we all know definitively that there will be no response to the letter. I wish that there would be but Pope Francis has made it clear that he is willing to dialogue with everyone except those he prescribes as rigid. I gave up on that idea a long time ago. Hopefully, as time goes on more who do not fit that label will raise the alarm as well. By that time, he may have accomplished all he set out to. God help us.

 

I couldn’t have said it better!well, he got what he was asking for...we are in a real mess! And btw...who says stuff like that? No good comes out of chaos! We are in chaos!

 

I can´t help but make a connection with the freemasons´ motto:

ORDO AB CHAO (ORDER OUT OF CHAOS).

Their (new) order, of course.

 

I thought of that too.

 

Oh my gosh.....! Hummmmm, gotta wonder .......

 

Christopher Ferrara takes Jimmy Akin to school:
(pun intended)

https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/4462-akin

 

Yes, his response to the caller was pathetic. Saying that Wiccans are not Satanists because they don't worship Satan made him sound desperate rather than clever. Maybe Wicca is another one of those religions willed by God???

In fairness to Jimmy Akin, he has done good work as an apologist. Trouble is that defending the indefensible can give apologetics a bad name - after a while it starts to look like empty propaganda. I didn't bother reading Jimmy's written response to the letter. I gather from other responses that we're down to arguing whether the Pope meets some legal definition of formal heresy. Using a technicality to let the Pope off a charge of heresy isn't a cause of joy for Catholics, nor should it be.

Pray that this mess will be sorted in our lifetime.

I wonder how much Arab money going to the Jesuit colleges influenced the Abu Dhabi statement. https://www.dailycaller.com/2018/10/31/saudi-arabia-georgetown/
Georgetown benefited to the tune of $400 million, getting over $300 million from Qatar alone. That was in the five year period between 2011 and 2016. For all we know, the figure could have risen to over half a billion by now. And that's just one university. How many more will be taking the Pope's advice to teach about God willing a plurality of religions? It might explain why the Pope doesn't think it right to talk about Islamic terrorism without talking about Catholic terrorism - you know all those evil Catholics around the world blowing up mosques and beheading Muslims who won't convert. Follow the money but don't expect Jimmy Akin to join the dots.