Well, I've always figured that there were more women at daily mass because most are elderly and women outlive the men
I was not aware, few friends (some readers of my blog) spent few days with her recently, please would be kind to tell me how you are aware of this news from Conchita, thank you.
http://m.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/maltas-archbishop-seminarians-can-leave-if-they-dont-agree-with-pope-franci Malta’s Archbishop: Seminarians Can Leave if They Don't Agree With Pope Francis Posted by Edward Pentin on Monday Feb 20th, 2017 at 7:17 AM Instruction comes as it emerges priests who disagree with bishops’ interpretation of Amoris Laetitia are being bullied and intimidated. The Archbishop of Malta has confirmed to the Register that he told the country’s seminarians earlier this month that if any of them do not agree with Pope Francis, “the seminary gate is open,” implying they are free to leave. Archbishop Charles Scicluna’s remarks are the latest in what Church sources in Malta say is a heavy-handed crackdown on any ecclesiastic unwilling to subscribe to the Maltese bishops’ interpretation of the apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia — an interpretation the bishops say is identical to the Holy Father’s. Last month, Archbishop Scicluna and Bishop Mario Grech of Gozo — the episcopate’s only two bishops — released “Criteria” on interpreting Chapter 8 of the Pope’s apostolic exhortation on the family in which they appeared to assert the primacy of conscience over the objective moral truth. The guidelines allowed some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion after a period of discernment, with an informed and enlightened conscience, and if they are “at peace with God.” Their interpretation caused an international outcry among theologians, canonists and others who argued that it contradicted previous papal teaching, as well as breached canon law and the catechism. Archbishop Scicluna has defended the guidelines, saying they “adhered to Amoris Laetitia” and also “followed the interpretation that the Pope approved.” Since the Criteria were published Jan. 13, a number of clergy sources in Malta have contacted the Register alleging the bishops won't tolerate any clergy having a different interpretation of Amoris Laetitia than the one presented in the Criteria among the clergy. According to the sources, three priests are allegedly intimidating anyone who does not agree with the Criteria. The three had been opponents of the previous bishop, Archbishop Paul Cremona, but have now become the present bishops’ allies. One of them reputedly attacks any priest who shares critical stories on the Internet. “This group of priests, with a few others, have been hogging the conversation for decades,” said a Maltese priest on condition of anonymity. “No one else seems to be allowed to contribute to the debate and they have done untold damage to bridge-building since they brook no opposition.” He said they “fall on any dissent like a ton of bricks” and “no other priests are given any opportunity to contribute to the conversation” except for priests who are “like-minded.” When he was appointed Archbishop of Malta in 2015, many of the island nation’s clergy were initially hopeful that Archbishop Scicluna would reset the theological and pastoral agenda, but now feel these priests have “hijacked” the local Church completely. “There is a lot of discontent in the rank-and-file clergy, for they see that after holding so much promise, Scicluna's episcopacy has become one of bullying and betrayal,” the priest said. At a meeting with Malta’s priests on Feb. 14, Archbishop Scicluna appealed for understanding, saying he had no choice in co-signing the guidelines. According to sources present, he said in conscience he could not go against the wishes of the Pope. He admitted it was a mistake not to consult the nation’s clergy on the Criteria before they were released, alluding to the fact that they wanted to be the first Bishops’ Conference to do so. However, he also expressed “shock” at the fact that the C9 felt they had to pledge their allegiance of full support for the Pope. He asserted that to be Catholic, one is with the Pope. He also criticized the fact that people are questioning the Pope’s mercy. Such criticism came to a head earlier this month when 200 posters critical of what they viewed as unmerciful actions of the Holy Father appeared across Rome. The archbishop also gave the impression that accompaniment of remarried divorcees in their discernment should take place over a significant number of sessions, and considered ten sessions too few. He “totally excluded” giving such permission to receive the Sacraments after one meeting, or after a brief Confession, for instance before a funeral. Archbishop Scicluna declined to comment on the contents of his meeting with priests. The Maltese prelate, formerly the Vatican’s chief prosecutor who was well respected for his handling of clerical sex abuse cases during the pontificate of Benedict XVI, said in relation to Communion for remarried divorcees that for some people it is impossible to live chastely as brother and sister (to live in sexual continence was a requirement, based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, clearly stipulated by Pope St. John Paul II in his apostolic exhortation Familiaris Consortio). However, he stressed that the reference is to human impossibility and does not exclude that grace might come into action, assisting these people. As well as the alleged intimidation, some of Malta’s clergy are also concerned that the country is currently without an apostolic nuncio. Archbishop Mario Cassari, 73, has been unable to work due to prolonged ill health. Although a Head of Mission is acting in his place, if a priest were to clash with his bishop, or be harassed by him, the clergy feel “totally isolated” in the absence of a nuncio. This article has been updated with some additional reporting.
http://www.onepeterfive.com/archbishop-of-malta-claims-fidelity-to-pope-on-exhortation-guidelines/ Archbishop of Malta Claims Fidelity to Pope on Exhortation Guidelines Steve Skojec February 20, 2017 One Comment The focus is back on the Maltese bishops this week after it was revealed that in a meeting with the priests of his archdiocese, Archbishop Charles Scicluna had said that he had no choice in issuing the deeply controversial Maltese bishops guidelines on Amoris Laetitia, because in his conscience he could not oppose the wishes of Pope Francis. The National Catholic Register‘s Rome Correspondent, Edward Pentin, reports: At a meeting with Malta’s priests on Feb. 14, Archbishop Scicluna appealed for understanding, saying he had no choice in co-signing the guidelines. According to sources present, he said in conscience he could not go against the wishes of the Pope. He admitted it was a mistake not to consult the nation’s clergy on the Criteria before they were released, alluding to the fact that they wanted to be the first Bishops’ Conference to do so. However, he also expressed “shock” at the fact that the C9 felt they had to pledge their allegiance of full support for the Pope. He asserted that to be Catholic, one is with the Pope. He also criticized the fact that people are questioning the Pope’s mercy. Such criticism came to a head earlier this month when 200 posters critical of what they viewed as unmerciful actions of the Holy Father appeared across Rome. This same accounting of events was given to me by a source in Malta last week. The person then said: So the logical conclusion is that they were told to issue those Guidelines from the very top. My source then pointed me to a tweet from papal biographer Austen Ivereigh, who reiterated that the Maltese guidelines are according to the pope’s “authoritative” interpretation of the exhortation: While Scicluna signaled his distaste that Catholics were questioning the pope’s “mercy,” my source said to me, “It has become unbearable here. We are living under the tyranny of mercy.” We reported last month that strongarm tactics were alleged to have been used by Bishop Grech of Gozo to enforce compliance with the new guidelines. Pentin’s report gives evidence that the hard edge of the Dictatorship of Mercy is, in fact, being applied across the whole of Malta: The Archbishop of Malta has confirmed to the Register that he told the country’s seminarians earlier this month that if any of them do not agree with Pope Francis, “the seminary gate is open,” implying they are free to leave. Archbishop Charles Scicluna’s remarks are the latest in what Church sources in Malta say is a heavy-handed crackdown on any ecclesiastic unwilling to subscribe to the Maltese bishops’ interpretation of the apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia — an interpretation the bishops say is identical to the Holy Father’s. […] Since the Criteria were published Jan. 13, a number of clergy sources in Malta have contacted the Register alleging the bishops won’t tolerate any clergy having a different interpretation of Amoris Laetitia than the one presented in the Criteria among the clergy. According to the sources, three priests are allegedly intimidating anyone who does not agree with the Criteria. The three had been opponents of the previous bishop, Archbishop Paul Cremona, but have now become the present bishops’ allies. One of them reputedly attacks any priest who shares critical stories on the Internet. “This group of priests, with a few others, have been hogging the conversation for decades,” said a Maltese priest on condition of anonymity. “No one else seems to be allowed to contribute to the debate and they have done untold damage to bridge-building since they brook no opposition.” He said they “fall on any dissent like a ton of bricks” and “no other priests are given any opportunity to contribute to the conversation” except for priests who are “like-minded.” When he was appointed Archbishop of Malta in 2015, many of the island nation’s clergy were initially hopeful that Archbishop Scicluna would reset the theological and pastoral agenda, but now feel these priests have “hijacked” the local Church completely. “There is a lot of discontent in the rank-and-file clergy, for they see that after holding so much promise, Scicluna’s episcopacy has become one of bullying and betrayal,” the priest said. [emphasis added]
Dear Aviso, these are words from Conchita. If you do not believe me (I cannot remember anymore where I found them in this forum), please address this question directly to Glenn.
Thank you Elisa, unfortunately I cannot confirm this news, as I said some of my readers from Spain spent few days with her recently, they have not been able to confirm to me this news, I asked the seer myself by memory last year via one my good friend who knows her quite well for years now, about Pope Francis, this is her reply : Salvation is in the hands of the Pope, during their visit to the Garabandal Seer recently (few months ago), I am aware of an update from the Garabandal Seer about this Papacy, unfortunately I am not allowed to publish it in Public otherwise I would already publish it on my blog, thank you again.
Padraig... do you realise what you have written here ? You pronounced a CURSE on David.... Now he has to go to a Priest to break it ! Not even Jesus did that towards Judas.... and therefore these words pronounced by you are not coming from the Holy Spirit, but from an evil spirit. I do not care who is right in this endless and exhausting discussion about the Pope in which we all loose energy and appetite for PRAYER. But the members are of course free to do so. WE ALL KNOW THAT WEIRD THINGS ARE GOING ON IN THE VATICAN and David knows this too. David is AGAINST SIN and this only fact should be kept in mind and therefore you have no right to CONDEMN him by saying that he "is on the path of hell, that he is in the very greatest spiritual danger of being condemned to hell" because you are NOT GOD ! It is unacceptable that you pronounce such things because we are dealing here with a brother (David) baptised in Jesus who has the right in a forum (!) to express his views, which he does (moreover) in a respectful way ! If no one in this forum dares to say this to you only because you are the moderator, then I will do it. I respect, appreciate and like you very much Padraig, but I cannot, being a Christian, accept your condemning words towards a brother in Christ. I do not recognize the "wise Padraig" in these words. What is happening to you Padraig ? I ask you sincerely, what is happening to you ?? I regularly go to Holy Masses exactly because everything is still done in the way it should be (here is the link: http://www.hetoudekloostermaleizen.be/home). These priests celebrate the Holy Mess in the "old" way and continue to stay behind the Pope without condeming him. Therefore, I will not either participate in condemning and evil talking against the Pope. But I think that discussions about the Pope, in which everyone displays his personnal view, is ok IF it is done without agression and in a respectful way and without any condemnation or threat ! IT IS GOD HIMSELF WHO DEMANDS THIS FROM US.
What I said was not a curse but straight talking. Something you hear very little of these days. You haven't heard straight talking in a while and are puzzled and a little frightened by it, not knowing what to make of it. But if a kick up the ass is all that stands between a soul and hell I' ll have a go at giving a good one. God's no pussy cat. it's a blessing not a curse, though a kinda back to front one.
You can talk straight in LOVE or you can talk straight in HATRED. Words can KILL the soul when they lack love and respect. I know exactly what to make of hard words....
Elisa, you have an idea of God as being , 'Nice'. He is not nice. He is loving. Being loving and being nice are not the same thing , as any good parent will tell you.
Yes Padraig, listen very carefully to what Jesus says here... "but as you say you see (you saying that David is wrong), yours sins remains".... You follow the letter of the law and not the heart of the law. David looks first at the heart of the law while you are looking first at the letter of the law... And instead of spilling your energy in trying to convince David or me and some others, use your energy for those who never go to Church and who do not live the commandments of God. My words are not nice but loving.... (P.S. There is no actor that represents Jesus so well as Robert Powel. I love this actor ! May the real Jesus look like him, but I know that the real Jesus will look even more beautiful !)
Right on Praetorian. But the 'cross' has been hijacked and when was the last time many of us heard about the value of suffering from the pulpit? To see the Church hierarchy openly giving in to a twisted idea of mercy now, well you see where it is going. God help us!
I love I love St. Bernadette and her utter simplicity. A nun asked her somewhat pettishly when she was in the infirmary. "And what are you doing?" And Bernadette answered, "My job." and the nun snapped, "And what is THAT?" And Bernadette said, "To be sick."
Promoting the errors David is promoting is not love. Love is having the courage and conviction to speak the Truth in the face of such error, no matter how popular these errors may be or how much "difficult cases" may tug at the heart strings. Adultery is adultery and encouraging the faithful to not only persist in their sin but also take Communion leads souls to hell, along with those suggesting it. That is the opposite of Love. http://m.ncregister.com/blog/msgr-pope/the-church-cannot-teach-error-because-she-was-founded-by-jesus-christ-who- The Church Cannot Teach Error, Because She Was Founded by Jesus Christ, Who is God Himself Posted by Msgr. Charles Pope on Tuesday Feb 21st, 2017 at 12:01 PM The Church has no fear of being on the “wrong side of history”, for her Bridegroom is seated at the right hand of the Father. There are often strident demands, coming from both within and outside the Church, that she change her teachings to conform to modern notions. Given our era’s preoccupation with sex, many of the demands for change involve related issues: homosexual acts, same-sex “marriage,” adultery (particularly divorce and “remarriage”), premarital sex, contraception, and abortion. But such demands show a misunderstanding of both the nature and power of the Church. There are many mistaken ideas today regarding the theology of the Church (ecclesiology), even among the faithful. It is commonly thought that the Church (or at least her current leaders) can simply decide what we want to teach on any given topic; for example, if we want to simply change what we teach about abortion we can just do it. And modern critics assert that if we can do it, then we should do it. The same goes for any of our “controversial” teachings such as contraception, the male-only priesthood, and so forth. This is mistaken ecclesiology and an exaggeration of the Church’s power. The Church has no authority whatsoever to overturn the teaching on abortion, contraception, the male-only priesthood, or divorce and “remarriage” (that one who leaves a valid marriage and enters another is in a state of ongoing adultery). We have no authority to overthrow biblical doctrines, the doctrines of Sacred Tradition, or any of our defined dogmas and doctrines. Something cannot be morally or doctrinally true one day and untrue the next. Still others insist that the Church should read the surveys and change her teachings to conform to what the people in the pews think or want. Again, this is flawed ecclesiology. The Catholic Church, which is the Body of Christ and His visible presence on earth, does not exist to reflect the views of this era or even of her current members. The Catholic Church exists to proclaim the teachings of her head and founder, Jesus Christ. She is His living and active presence and voice in the world. Scripture says, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Do not be carried away by all sorts of strange teachings (Heb 13:8-9). Indeed, there are surely many “strange teachings” in our time! But Jesus and His Body the Church, which are one, cannot and do not change in the proclamation of doctrinal and moral truth. Doctrine proclaims perennial truth. While our understanding of doctrines may deepen and develop over time, this development cannot be such that a doctrine changes its fundamental meaning, that a “yes” becomes a “no” or vice-versa. That would not be development; it would be a negation. The Church must insist, in St Paul’s words, But as surely as God is faithful, our message to you is not “Yes” and “No.” For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us—by me and Silas and Timothy—was not “Yes” and “No,” but in him it has always been “Yes” (2 Cor 1:18-19). Our affirmation of the revealed truth cannot change from “yes” to “no.” We cannot negate what God has revealed; we cannot tear pages from Scripture; we cannot overturn sacred dogmas. Our “yes” to God’s certain truth cannot become “no.” Our “Amen” cannot become Non serviam (I will not serve). Once again, the Church has no authority whatsoever to overturn what God has definitely taught. No one—not even a pope—can change the truths of Scripture, Sacred Tradition, or the doctrines definitely put forth for our belief by the Magisterium. Those who demand that the Church change her teachings to reflect the views of our times or of her current members also err in a second way. They do this through a kind of temporal arrogance or forgetfulness, for there are many who have gone before us but are still part of the mystical Body of Christ, the Church; I am certain that they would hardly agree with many of the debased and erroneous notions of our time. Consider, for example, the heroic witness of St. John the Baptist, St. John Fisher, and St. Thomas More, all of whom died rather than affirm or overlook divorce, “remarriage,” or any illicit or adulterous union. Consider the example of St. Maria Gorretti, the young girl who died rather than yield to her attacker’s demands for illicit sexual union. Are their voices to be silenced as some (even within the Church) seek to set aside or erode the seriousness of the teachings they died to affirm? As G.K. Chesterton once wrote, “Tradition means giving a vote to the most obscure of all classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead.” Their voices and their example still matter. To those who erroneously seek truth in opinion polls: Don’t forget to poll the “dead,” who are still very much alive and a part of the Church! They get a vote, too. The Church cannot simply concern herself with the needs, views, and demands of her current earthly members. She regards all of her members, past, present, and future. The Church cannot simply reinvent herself to conform to current demands or preferences. She is in service of her Lord, Savior, Groom, and Head. She exists to proclaim His teachings and to hand on the sacred deposit of faith, which He died and rose to give to His Apostles. She is to reflect Him who is truth incarnate, not the changing mores of the world. So many modern problems and errors come down to faulty ecclesiology. Is the Church just a human “club,” which exists to reflect the views of her members and can therefore adapt herself to their desires and demands? No. The Church is the Body of Christ, the living and active presence of Him who does not change, who is not “Yes” and then “No,” but only “Yes.” To those in the world (and even within the Church) who would erroneously insist that the Church change her doctrine to suit their views, we can only say, with the Holy Spirit and St. Paul: Having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart. But we have renounced disgraceful, deceitful ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s Word, but by the open statement of the truth we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. And if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ (2 Cor 4:1-6). Somebody say, “Amen!”
