Pope to meet Kirill in Moscow!!!

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  1. HeavenlyHosts

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    Not necessarily that they will get together, but if hostilities break out?
     
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    Yes that is my thinking. Plus I don't think it matters that he is protestant. He is Christian or professes to be and he is the descendant at least in terms of power of the King that betrayed the Church and made the reformation possible. So in that sense, I wonder about things prophetically. Plus there is the history of religious conflicts in France (eldest daughter of the Church) in the past and the role (responsibility) of England and the Commonwealth in terms of its power over the world over the last few centuries...

    We shall see but I wanted to point it out.

    Editing to add: I wrote that the king is the descendant above, I meant to say successor.
     
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    Right. It's something to think about.
     
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    Alleluia!

    My soul doth magnify the Lord!
     
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    Hopefully the prophecy of St. Dominic Savio's "This is England" vision would finally come true...
     
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    Another report today hinting at anterior motive for trip to mongolia..

     
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    Wow! Only 1,400 Catholics in Mongolia. Curiouser and curiouser.
     
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    thank you
     
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    Interesting : https://www.rt.com/news/581892-pope-peace-plan-hungary/

    Pope's peace plan making progress – Hungary
    Hungarian President Katalin Novak met with the pontiff on Friday, almost four months after Kiev rejected his offer of mediation
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    Pope Francis meets with Katalin Novak in The Vatican, August 25, 2023 © AFP / Vatican Media
    Hungarian President Katalin Novak said on Saturday that Pope Francis is “closer” to proposing a peace plan between Ukraine and Russia than he was when the two last met in Budapest in April.

    Novak met with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in Kiev on Wednesday, before traveling to the Vatican for an audience with the Pope on Friday. Italian media noted that the meeting was unusually long, but the Holy See revealed little about what was discussed.

    “The conversation proceeded with a focus on the war in Ukraine, with special reference to the humanitarian situation and efforts to end the conflict,” read a statement from the Vatican.

    Speaking to Italy’s Il Messaggero newspaper, Novak said that after meeting with Pope Francis, she remains “convinced that we are now closer to carrying out the project that we talked about with the Pontiff during his last trip to Budapest four months ago.”

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    Ukraine rebuffs Vatican peace attempt

    The Pope visited Budapest in April, telling reporters afterwards that he had discussed a secret peace mission with Novak, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, and Metropolitan Hilarion, a representative of the Russian Orthodox Church. "There is a mission in course now but it is not yet public. When it is public, I will reveal it," he said at the time.

    Novak did not reveal any further details of the plan to Il Messaggero. “I absolutely agree with Pope Francis even if I'm not in a position to make a public announcement that there is a concrete peace plan,” she said.

    The Pope also visited Kiev in April, where he spoke to Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmigal. However, Smighal told reporters that the pair had only discussed a “peace formula” put forward by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. This plan, rejected by Moscow, calls on Russia to surrender the formerly Ukrainian territories of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, and Crimea, to pay reparations to Kiev, and to hand over senior officials for war crimes tribunals.

    In a meeting with the Pope in the Vatican in May, Zelensky insisted that his plan was the only one Kiev would entertain. “It was an honor for me to meet His Holiness, but he knows my position: the war is in Ukraine and the [peace] plan must be Ukrainian,” Zelensky said after the discussion.

    Russia maintains that it is open to a diplomatic solution to the conflict, but that any peace deal will have to take into account the “new territorial reality” – that Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, and Crimea will not be ceded back to Ukraine. Furthermore, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said that negotiations will be held “not with Zelensky, who is a puppet in the hands of the West, but directly with his masters.”
     
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    Does anyone think that China itself will pressure Russia to accept a papal visit to Moscow after Cardinal Zuppi's trip to Beijing takes place?
     
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    I think Francis just reads what's handed to him a lot of the time; someone else probably wrote the stuff praising Russia.
     
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    What's so shocking?
     
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    Maybe he wants to look good to the Russians before he goes to Moscow...
     
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    Hmmmmm.....interesting.
     

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