Yes there is someone in control of all this, he is called Lucifer, the Father of Lies and a Murderer from the beginning.
I'm sorry but I can't get past the fact that this document doesn't capitalize the pronouns referring to God, but DOES capitalize "God's People." "God's People," but "his divine will?" It is very telling that the Vatican is slighting God Himself while twisting itself into illogical knots to discredit the bold statements good bishops have been making against these scandalous blessings. The example given of how to supposedly bless a divorced and "remarried" couple is absolutely laughable, because A. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them being a couple and is exactly the same as individual blessings, which have always been a thing and didn't need this document, and B. The Vatican knows fully well that this is NOT how the blessings are going to go when administered by liberal priests and bishops. And the patronizing blurb about how African bishops are supposedly afraid to bless homosexual couples because revealing that they are homosexuals would be dangerous for them PROVES that these blessings ARE about the homosexual relationship....Because how exactly would blessing each person individually, asking for good health and finding a job and following God's Will reveal anything whatsoever about these people's sexual relationship???? I need to sign off and do some praying because I have no patience for these mind games. God have mercy on their souls.
So badly written it's embarrassing. I think your man Fernandez is as we say in Ireland as thick as two short planks. In other words not very bright.
This is the most worrying thing for me that the Vatican is following the agenda of the world in every way. The evil of abortion is ignored. They listen to the cry of the earth rather than the cry of the unborn. The confusion is rampant as the church becomes another NGO of the New World Order. Earth worship, climate alarmist, pachamama idolatry, Amazon rites, the enlarge the tent everyone welcome, God wills all religions, ignore sins below the belt, ignore Jesus Christ, bless sodomites sect is not one I want to belong to.
We have a man in charge of doctrine heal me with your mouth the art of kissing Fernandez. In and if itself this is laughable but let's be honest some of the people running the show are nut jobs. I would not let them teach catechism to my grandchildren. If I am brutally honest I would not let them near my grandchildren. I wouldn't even want to talk to a man who wrote a book about the art of kissing aimed at teens. In the world I grew up in he would be considered a pervert. Sorry I am just being honest.
Fernández said he wrote the book along with a group of young people when he was a parish priest in the Argentine town of Santa Teresita, in the central province of Córdoba. He said it was written as a catechesis for teenagers, with the contributions of his young collaborators, and he improved them by providing “a little editing. We need to pray for this man's conversion.
Apparently years ago the guy got in a lot of trouble with Ratzinger when he was in charge and had to retract these. I think that's when he and Papa Frankie first hitched up. Like many other nobodies Frankie suddenly raised him from nowhere with a red hat and a big job.
Seriously, he is like a prelate out of a Monty Python sketch. I mean the man no harm but seriously are we meant to take this man seriously? Let's get real he is not fit for purpose, he is not fit for the office. I bear him no ill will but anyone who cooperates with teens to write a puerile book is dodgy in my eyes. I am not aiming at character assassination but looking at things from the perspective of being both a father and a grandfather. My paternal antennae are flashing when I look at this man's CV. That book is a scandal of the highest order and he still defends it as 'catechesis for teens'. In my 36 years of teaching and being a pastoral head of year groups, if someone like that with that mindset wanted to come and talk to the children, my answer would be a flat No! By their fruits ye shall know them. The only good news is the book is out of print. https://onepeterfive.com/full-text-art-kissing-pope-francis-ghostwriter-archbishop-tucho-fernandez/
I think anyone at a point of continuing adultery should step back, REPENT of all of it, REMOVE themselves from any romantic relationship, go to confession, and just seek the kingdom of God only from thenceforth. Period. Not picking on your sister but this is way too common everywhere. You can't "make" adultery right. It must be irradicated in your heart and mind and soul and body before you can move forward with Christ and salvation. This is exactly the stuff the Pope is caving to....
Completely agree but as you say this is so commonplace. She wouldn’t listen to me if I explained. One can and must pray for conversion. As to adultery, she is a baptised but non practising Catholic and has never been married in an RC Church. I’m not sure that her irregular multiple marriages are adulterous so much as fornication.
Yes continuous prayer for our loved ones is the remedy. I too have close relatives I love in this terrible state. As far as the multiple marriages comparing adultery to fornication they are both mortal sins, so it makes no difference. The men also may have been validly married before so then it WOULD be full on adultery for her and of course she is participating in THIER soul's ruination. This common mortal sin can get so tied up in knots of persons involved it can be hard to unravel... I was validly married, and husband left when I was in my early thirties. I have lived a celibate life since then (and not tooting my horn) just testifying it CAN be done. If and when your sister is totally committed to her relationship with God, it will be easy for her to do if necessary.
Same sex blessings shortly explained according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church by Fr. Joseph Edattu.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/s...e=digest-catholic-2024-01-11&utm_medium=email Spanish cardinal vows to ‘fully apply’ Fiducia Supplicans, cracks down on priestly opposition Spanish priests involved in a petition asking Pope Francis to revoke Fiducia Supplicans ‘have been seriously admonished, they have been asked if they have anything against the Pope,’ Cardinal José Cobo said. MADRID (LifeSiteNews) — Cardinal José Cobo of Madrid has moved to quash opposition to Fiducia Supplicans, warning his priests that “we are going to fully apply the Pope’s doctrine” on same-sex “blessings.” Speaking to Religión Digital on January 8, Cobo expressed his full support of the December 18 text Fiducia Supplicans, which purports to open the door to “blessing” same-sex “couples.” “In Madrid we are going to fully apply the Pope’s doctrine, and that is why we are going to apply ‘Fiducia supplicans’ with the intensity that the document deserves and asks for, and whoever does not agree, I invite you to read it,” he stated. The Vatican text, authored by Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández and signed by Pope Francis, has sparked international controversy, with a steadily growing number of cardinals, bishops, and priests expressing their opposition to “blessing” “couples” of the same-sex. But Cobo claimed in his interview with Religión Digital that the furor surrounding Fiducia Supplicans “is an artificial controversy, everything has been taken out of context.” READ: FULL LIST – Where do bishops stand on blessings for homosexual couples? The resistance to same-sex “blessings” has been largely led by African bishops, with other prelates following suit, but groups of priests in the U.K., the U.S., and Australia have also voiced their collective opposition. Led by Spanish-speaking priests from Spain and Latin America, a petition was subsequently launched calling upon Pope Francis to rescind the document. Going online on December 31, the petition already has over 10,500 signatures.
https://aleteia.org/2016/06/13/when-cardinal-joseph-ratzinger-predicted-the-future-of-the-church/ When Father Joseph Ratzinger Predicted the Future of the Church Way before becoming pope, or even a prelate, Ratzinger laid it out in a 1969 broadcast on German radio for all to hear ... He didn’t pretend he could tell the future. No. He was much too wise for that. As a matter of fact, he tempered his initial remarks with this disclaimer: “Let us, therefore, be cautious in our prognostications. What St. Augustine said is still true: man is an abyss; what will rise out of these depths, no one can see in advance. And whoever believes that the Church is not only determined by the abyss that is man, but reaches down into the greater, infinite abyss that is God, will be the first to hesitate with his predictions, for this naïve desire to know for sure could only be the announcement of his own historical ineptitude.” But his era, brimming with existential danger, political cynicism and moral waywardness, hungered for an answer. The Catholic Church, a moral beacon in the turbulent waters of its time, had recently experienced certain changes of its own with adherents and dissenters alike wondering, “What will become of the Church in the future?” 10 Pithy and Potent Quotes from Pope Benedict And so, in a 1969 German radio broadcast, Father Joseph Ratzinger would offer his thoughtfully considered answer. Here are his concluding remarks, “The future of the Church can and will issue from those whose roots are deep and who live from the pure fullness of their faith. It will not issue from those who accommodate themselves merely to the passing moment or from those who merely criticize others and assume that they themselves are infallible measuring rods; nor will it issue from those who take the easier road, who sidestep the passion of faith, declaring false and obsolete, tyrannous and legalistic, all that makes demands upon men, that hurts them and compels them to sacrifice themselves. To put this more positively: The future of the Church, once again as always, will be reshaped by saints, by men, that is, whose minds probe deeper than the slogans of the day, who see more than others see, because their lives embrace a wider reality. Unselfishness, which makes men free, is attained only through the patience of small daily acts of self-denial. By this daily passion, which alone reveals to a man in how many ways he is enslaved by his own ego, by this daily passion and by it alone, a man’s eyes are slowly opened. He sees only to the extent that he has lived and suffered. If today we are scarcely able any longer to become aware of God, that is because we find it so easy to evade ourselves, to flee from the depths of our being by means of the narcotic of some pleasure or other. Thus our own interior depths remain closed to us. If it is true that a man can see only with his heart, then how blind we are! “How does all this affect the problem we are examining? It means that the big talk of those who prophesy a Church without God and without faith is all empty chatter. We have no need of a Church that celebrates the cult of action in political prayers. It is utterly superfluous. Therefore, it will destroy itself. What will remain is the Church of Jesus Christ, the Church that believes in the God who has become man and promises us life beyond death. The kind of priest who is no more than a social worker can be replaced by the psychotherapist and other specialists; but the priest who is no specialist, who does not stand on the [sidelines], watching the game, giving official advice, but in the name of God places himself at the disposal of man, who is beside them in their sorrows, in their joys, in their hope and in their fear, such a priest will certainly be needed in the future. “Let us go a step farther. From the crisis of today the Church of tomorrow will emerge — a Church that has lost much. She will become small and will have to start afresh more or less from the beginning. She will no longer be able to inhabit many of the edifices she built in prosperity. As the number of her adherents diminishes, so it will lose many of her social privileges. In contrast to an earlier age, it will be seen much more as a voluntary society, entered only by free decision. As a small society, it will make much bigger demands on the initiative of her individual members. Undoubtedly it will discover new forms of ministry and will ordain to the priesthood approved Christians who pursue some profession. In many smaller congregations or in self-contained social groups, pastoral care will normally be provided in this fashion. Along-side this, the full-time ministry of the priesthood will be indispensable as formerly. But in all of the changes at which one might guess, the Church will find her essence afresh and with full conviction in that which was always at her center: faith in the triune God, in Jesus Christ, the Son of God made man, in the presence of the Spirit until the end of the world. In faith and prayer she will again recognize the sacraments as the worship of God and not as a subject for liturgical scholarship. “The Church will be a more spiritual Church, not presuming upon a political mandate, flirting as little with the Left as with the Right. It will be hard going for the Church, for the process of crystallization and clarification will cost her much valuable energy. It will make her poor and cause her to become the Church of the meek. The process will be all the more arduous, for sectarian narrow-mindedness as well as pompous self-will will have to be shed. One may predict that all of this will take time. The process will be long and wearisome as was the road from the false progressivism on the eve of the French Revolution — when a bishop might be thought smart if he made fun of dogmas and even insinuated that the existence of God was by no means certain — to the renewal of the nineteenth century. But when the trial of this sifting is past, a great power will flow from a more spiritualized and simplified Church. Men in a totally planned world will find themselves unspeakably lonely. If they have completely lost sight of God, they will feel the whole horror of their poverty. Then they will discover the little flock of believers as something wholly new. They will discover it as a hope that is meant for them, an answer for which they have always been searching in secret. “And so it seems certain to me that the Church is facing very hard times. The real crisis has scarcely begun. We will have to count on terrific upheavals. But I am equally certain about what will remain at the end: not the Church of the political cult, which is dead already, but the Church of faith. It may well no longer be the dominant social power to the extent that she was until recently; but it will enjoy a fresh blossoming and be seen as man’s home, where he will find life and hope beyond death. The Catholic Church will survive in spite of men and women, not necessarily because of them. And yet, we still have our part to do. We must pray for and cultivate unselfishness, self-denial, faithfulness, Sacramental devotion and a life centered on Christ. In 2009 Ignatius Press released Father Joseph Ratzinger’s speech “What Will the Church Look Like in 2000” in full, in a book entitled Faith and the Future.
It’s interesting to see which countries line up to accept it and which countries prohibit. From prophesy we have heard about countries being invaded, suffering great earth changes and you can see who will be affected the most. The US is supposed to be invaded and have a great catastrophic earthquake. Spain, Italy, Ireland, England etc all in the crosshairs. My best bet as a place to live would be Africa. Just an observation but the lines are drawn. God is not pleased, it goes against what he designed. This affects every church in every country. QUOTE="padraig, post: 438539, member: 2"]https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/s...e=digest-catholic-2024-01-11&utm_medium=email Spanish cardinal vows to ‘fully apply’ Fiducia Supplicans, cracks down on priestly opposition Spanish priests involved in a petition asking Pope Francis to revoke Fiducia Supplicans ‘have been seriously admonished, they have been asked if they have anything against the Pope,’ Cardinal José Cobo said. MADRID (LifeSiteNews) — Cardinal José Cobo of Madrid has moved to quash opposition to Fiducia Supplicans, warning his priests that “we are going to fully apply the Pope’s doctrine” on same-sex “blessings.” Speaking to Religión Digital on January 8, Cobo expressed his full support of the December 18 text Fiducia Supplicans, which purports to open the door to “blessing” same-sex “couples.” “In Madrid we are going to fully apply the Pope’s doctrine, and that is why we are going to apply ‘Fiducia supplicans’ with the intensity that the document deserves and asks for, and whoever does not agree, I invite you to read it,” he stated. The Vatican text, authored by Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández and signed by Pope Francis, has sparked international controversy, with a steadily growing number of cardinals, bishops, and priests expressing their opposition to “blessing” “couples” of the same-sex. But Cobo claimed in his interview with Religión Digital that the furor surrounding Fiducia Supplicans “is an artificial controversy, everything has been taken out of context.” READ: FULL LIST – Where do bishops stand on blessings for homosexual couples? The resistance to same-sex “blessings” has been largely led by African bishops, with other prelates following suit, but groups of priests in the U.K., the U.S., and Australia have also voiced their collective opposition. Led by Spanish-speaking priests from Spain and Latin America, a petition was subsequently launched calling upon Pope Francis to rescind the document. Going online on December 31, the petition already has over 10,500 signatures.[/QUOTE]
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/god-ap-pope-francis-africa-catholic-b2477144.html Africa's Catholic hierarchy refuses same-sex blessings, says such unions are contrary to God's will In the greatest rebuke yet to Pope Francis, the Catholic bishops of Africa and Madagascar have issued a unified statement refusing to follow his declaration allowing priests to offer blessings to same-sex couples In the greatest rebuke yet to Pope Francis, the Catholic bishops of Africa and Madagascar issued a unified statement Thursday refusing to follow his declaration allowing priests to offer blessings to same-sex couples and asserting that such unions are “contrary to the will of God.” The statement, signed by Congolese Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo on behalf of the symposium of African national bishops conferences, marked the closest thing to a continent-wide dissent from the declaration Francis approved Dec. 18 allowing priests to offer such blessings. That declaration from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith has sent shock waves through the Catholic Church, thrilling LGBTQ+ Catholics as a concrete sign of Francis’ message of welcome but alarming conservatives who fear core doctrines of the church are being ignored or violated. The controversy has deepened a growing chasm between Francis’ progressive, reform-minded papacy and the conservative church in much of the world, especially Africa, where the number of Catholics is growing at a faster rate than anywhere else. The Vatican declaration restated traditional church teaching that marriage is a lifelong union between a man and woman. But it allowed priests to offer spontaneous, non-liturgical blessings to same-sex couples seeking God’s grace in their lives, provided such blessings aren’t confused with the rites and rituals of a wedding. In his statement, Ambongo said it wasn’t appropriate for African priests to offer such blessings because of the scandal and confusion it would create. He cited biblical teaching condemning homosexuality as an abomination and the African cultural context, where he asserted that LGBTQ+ unions “are seen as contradictory to cultural norms and intrinsically corrupt.” “Within the church family of God in Africa, this declaration has caused a shockwave, it has sown misconceptions and unrest in the minds of many lay faithful, consecrated persons and even pastors, and has aroused strong reactions,” he wrote. While stressing that African bishops remain in communion with Francis, he said they believed such blessings cannot be carried out because “in our context, this would cause confusion and would be in direct contradiction to the cultural ethos of African communities.” A few weeks ago, Burundi's President Evariste Ndayishimiye said “people of the same sex who marry in this country should be taken to a stadium to be pelted with stones, once discovered.” In a radio broadcast Dec. 29, he asked Burundians living abroad who practice homosexuality “not to return home.” Ambongo said the symposium statement was a “consolidated summary” of the positions adopted by individual national bishops conferences, and said it had received the “agreement” of Francis and the doctrine office’s new prefect, Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández. The botched rollout of the Dec. 18 declaration has heightened conservative criticism of Fernández, whom Francis appointed to the office over the summer. Fernández apparently published the text with little consultation inside the Vatican and no forewarning to bishops in the rest of the world. Usually, when such sensitive Vatican documents are being prepared, there is an attempt to at least not blindside local church leaders. Often they are released with an accompanying letter or explanatory note published by Vatican Media, and are given to journalists ahead of time under an embargo to ensure the reporting is accurate and thought through. No such extra documentation or preparation accompanied Fiducia Supplicans, as the text is known, and its rollout was marked by individual bishops and entire national conferences voicing confusion and opposition. Others have welcomed it. France’s bishops conference, for example, said in a statement Wednesday that the declaration encourages pastors to “generously bless the people who come to them humbly asking for God’s help." The document “reminds us that those who are not in a position to commit themselves to the sacrament of marriage are not excluded from the love of God or of his church,” the French bishops said. After its initial publication, Fernández was forced to issue a second explanatory note a few weeks later, insisting there was nothing “heretical” in the document but acknowledging the opposing views. He acknowledged that it may not be applicable to some parts of the world and that further “pastoral reflection” might be necessary.
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/the-church-in-africa-by-the-numbers Using data from the World Values Survey, the post reported how many Catholic attend Mass on at least a weekly basis. The very highest rate in the world was for Nigeria, where 94% of Catholics reported going to Mass at least once a week. The next highest rate was for Kenya where 73% of Catholics said they went to Mass at least weekly. The world’s most populous Catholic country, Brazil, fell at the bottom of the list, with only eight percent of Brazilian Catholic saying they went to Mass on at least a weekly basis. A global center of vocations In the past decade, Africa has overtaken Europe as the largest source of priestly ordinations in the world. In 2019 there were 1600 diocesan priests ordained in Africa compared to only 1306 in Europe. In 2019, the DRC ordained more priests than any European country except Italy (317) and Poland (298). No European country ordained more priests than Nigeria. The only two countries in the world which ordained more priests in 2019 than Nigeria were the United States and India, both of which ordained 415, just five more than Nigeria. As of January 2023, Europe has 3.4 times as many voting cardinals as Africa, even while it ordains fewer priests, and sees fewer Catholics at Mass each week. But if the numbers continue as they are now, surely that will shift in the coming years. Africa is becoming, even more so than in the days of St. Clement of Alexandria and St. Augustine of Hippo, the center of gravity of the Church.
My biggest problem with this papacy is how confusing virtually everything that comes out of his mouth or his office is. That is not what the church is supposed to be at all. Now we have writings that seem like lawyers wrote them and thus the interpretation of things is all over the place. To me this is by design. When you have confusion, one side can always fall back on the idea of that the other side didn't read it or intemperate it in the right manner. The church teachings and thus documents that come out of those teachings should be anything but confusing and shouldn't be left for so much interpretation. This all feels like a design to pull one over on the church and the people and lead to infighting and division. It is satan that brings confusion to us and for me he and his minions are clearly heavily infiltrated within our beautiful church.
