Priestly Blessings

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  1. Cherox

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    No word from the Bishop of our diocese on FS. Our priest in his homily yesterday mentioned that he looked forward to blessing "unusual families". Here is a video of my former pastor's whom I am still in contact with homily this past Sunday. What a difference. Like night and day. It starts at 29:40

     
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    Cardinal Américo Aguiar, the one responsible for WYD 2023 and current bishop of Setúbal, in Portugal, according to local media, has stated the following in relation to the Vatican's gay declaration:

    “The heart of a pastor, when someone approaches me to ask for a blessing for their life, their person, there is no obstacle that can prevent me from doing exactly that, from responding.”

    “If a brother of mine comes to meet me and has courage, has strength, feels the need for God to be present in his life through this request for God's blessing, we only have to give thanks for this Christmas gift that Pope Francis materialized in this way ”.

    Source: https://cnnportugal.iol.pt/homossex...o-tem-rosto/20231222/6585e184d34e65afa2f8f7b4


     
  3. Basto

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    That's the same bishop:
     
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    Is it possible for the Anglican Church to sign a unification agreement with the "Synodal Church" in the coming months?
     
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    Franciscan University professor calls for Pope Francis to resign following homosexual ‘blessings’ text
    Addressing Pope Francis, Prof. Regis Martin urged, ‘Resign the Office that has become so tortuous to occupy; then go off to the nearest monastery for a life of prayer and penance.’
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      (LifeSiteNews) — A professor of theology at Franciscan University of Steubenville has called for the resignation of Pope Francis following the publication of Fiducia Supplicans, a declaration that has created controversy, confusion, and scandal within the Roman Catholic Church.

      Addressing Pope Francis, Professor Regis Martin urged, “Resign the Office that has become so tortuous to occupy; then go off to the nearest monastery for a life of prayer and penance.”
      “There is zero likelihood of this happening, by the way. So, why do I bother? Isn’t it a bit like spitting in the wind? Or trying to square the circle?” wondered Martin in his searing commentary published in Crisis Magazine.

      “I do it because the Gospel demands it,” answered Martin, who explained:

      While I am no St. Paul, neither am I averse to paraphrasing him. Who, in his Letter to the Galatians (2:14), had the cheek to call out St. Peter himself, the first Pope, on a point of doctrine no less. When a man does not walk upright, when he fails to be straightforward, there is no question but that someone needs to tell him. So Paul told Peter, admonishing him to his face in Antioch. And so, with utmost respect, one really must summon the courage to tell the Pope.


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  6. Basto

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    I don't think so, Luan, but who knows? Because there are no longer any major doctrinal or "pastoral" obstacles to this separation. Antipope Henry VIII and his mistress Anne Boleyn today could undergo a brief process of "discernment" and live happily in Amoris laetitia.
     
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    Pope Clement VII is turning in his grave.
     
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    So, the Jesus who said "Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" wouldn't have made Cardinal Aguiar's short list of speakers for World Youth Day? Of coirse, that Jesus lived 2000 years ago and wasn't as enlightened as the Cardinal. No doubt the Cardinal has a string of letters after his name showing how clever he is. Probably has had lots of tuition in how to project the right image in tv interviews so he knows how to avoid crucifixion too.

    I watched an Eric Sammons video recently. He reckons that God could be putting us to the test, and we could offer these trials aa atonement for our sins and for conversion of people to the Faith. I'm paraphrasing him, but that was the main message I took from his video.
     
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    As an example of how NOT blessing a person can bring them to Christ, a young friend of mine was living with her fiance and was getting married in the Church in a few weeks. She decided to go to confession before her marriage but was not repentant of what she considered " not really sinful, everyone does it, and we ARE getting married". After she came out of the confessional she was extremely angry. She called that day and told me about it. After she had told Father her situation in confession, he told her that the "gates of hell" were open to her, and asked her to leave the confessional without a blessing or absolution.
    Her rage and anger over the situation were extreme! She couldn't even sleep. Finally, a few days before the wedding she repented and boy what a repentance! It was real. She then made a REAL confession and came back to God and the Church in full. So, this also left an impression on me. I was really impressed upon the courage of the priest and what TRUTH did for her.
     
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    I have been meditating on all of this. Yesterday I mentioned to my husband that I have not seen the Ten Commandments on display in any Catholic Church. Or the Beatitudes. If you were to rewrite the Ten Commandments today I shudder to think how they would be interpreted. Ponder on that. In today’s society how would a child react to Honor your Father and Mother> they would say, which one? The mother who my real Dad is living with? The second or third man my real mother is living with? I have to learn lots of different rules depending on which house I am in.
    Our world and our church are in chaos. I could go through more of the Ten Commandments and show modern living from the current standards we are in and it is shocking. We mix religion and politics to fit our skewed life styles. We are truly in the end times when what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right.
    We have no leadership even in the church. Bishops are fighting Bishops on basic sins. I have a sister who is on her third husband. She received an annulment from husband one but not husband two. In her logic that one did not count because he wasn’t Catholic and it was just a civil ceremony. She goes to church and receives communion because a priest told her if she was that much in love with Jesus it was ok. So no wonder the world is confused and in a mess. I could go on and on but just want to run down the street yelling, “Wake up people you’re all sleeping”. There is nothing I can do, it’s in God’s hands.
     
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    My sister is also on her third husband. Her first marriage was to a Catholic but in an Anglican ceremony and her second to a divorced Catholic in a civil ceremony. Her third I have no idea about but it was a civil ceremony . I’m inclined to think she has never been sacramentally married so technically she could marry a fourth man in a Catholic church, obviously after a good confession. Your sister is likely right about her second marriage not counting as there is a difference between a legal marriage as a civil contract and the sacrament of marriage. I’m not up on canon law but I think this is right. Didn’t Boris Johnson marry his third wife in a Catholic Church for this reason? A lot of people cried foul but his previous marriages were invalidly performed.

    The priest gives bad advice though; it’s not about how much you love Jesus because ‘if you love me, you will keep my commandments’. As I said, I don’t think she needs an annulment as the second marriage was invalid, but some degree of repentance is probably in order. Mario will likely know, but this interests me as it concerns my sister too.
     
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    I'm not sure, but some type of documentation is needed even if the prior marriage was a civil ceremony. You can't just say it yourself.
     
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    Of course there would need to be divorce papers but these only prove the civil contract was formally dissolved.
     
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    I only used this as an example of how skewed our society has become in conforming what they feel is right. As another example, I have another sister who is a practicing Catholic. You go into her family room and see street signs on the walls that they have stolen to use as decorations. If I were to tell her that is stealing she would laugh at me and say the township has lots of money they can just replace it. Or employees who steal tape, gloves, toilet paper because the company has lots of money and can afford it. It's an 'entitlement mentality' and I see it everywhere. The same with blessings, it has become an entitlement and not a gift. Love is not demanded, it's bestowed. Just on a rant today.
     
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    :LOL: Of course... I've composed this picture just to criticize the bishop's ridiculous position in a blog post.
     
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    If I remember correctly, the Diocese has to investigate and rule.
     
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    Good rant.
     
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    It's the Vatican letting the African Bishops off the hook while telling Bishops in the developed world to get with the programme.

    I can't make head or tail of the word salad in paragraph no. 4.
     
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