'Pope' Benedict speaks!

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  1. I hate this new spirit of suspicion around us today but I have to also wonder if such things are not to entice even the true ones to believe that any new all inclusive outward church would also include them! Or is he just genuinely conflicted and thus an easily usable type for those with nefarious goals who surround him??

    Pope Francis To Release Book On John Paul II

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...ook-with-reflections-on-st-john-paul-ii-80341
     
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    Pope Paul vi seriously considered approving Artificial Contraption at one point . This on the recommendation of the Commission he himself established.

    But he did not do so..and that is the bottom line. He did not do so.

    Pope JP 2 may well have considered throwing in the towel, but he did not do so..and that too is the bottom line.

    Winston Churchill's Cabinet during the Second World War were heavily inclined to throw in the towel with Hitler.

    But they did not do so.

    ...and that too is the bottom line.
     
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    Well said Dolours.
     
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    Many, many years ago one Sunday morning I met and old Dominican priest on the platform of a little country railway station and fell into talking with him.

    He was going to say mass in a country Parish in the middle of nowhere that had no priest. He was complaining very bitterly about it. He was very old and tired, he said. He should be retired with his feet up. There should have been younger men to replace him, he said. It was very wrong he said.

    But it seemed to be at once that he was very wrong in what he was saying and that his complaints would be very displeasing to God?

    Why? Because he was viewing things through human rather than Supernatural eyes.

    So with the Papacy, we must be careful to view the Se of Peter in a special way through Spiritual, Supernatural eyes.

    Which is why the old priest was so bitter. He was not viewing things through the same eyes as God.
     
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    This is one of the temptations of old age I think. The sense that you deserve to rest. You did your part. In a priest I can see what a subtle temptation this is. Ultimately it is taking our eyes off Jesus and turning them inward and focusing on all the stresses and fatigues we seem to be afflicted with. A kind of crankiness ensues. It has to be resisted. (I include myself in this struggle) what helps is just recognizing the great gift of getting up every morning and being able to move and do useful things and be warm and sheltered and have Holy Mass and plenty of food and the thousands of gifts and blessings of the Lord is showering down us every day. Every thing is a gift. Everything. A close relative who had many blessings in her life--not a Catholic and she had no understanding or acceptance of redemptive suffering--bitterly complained she had nothing to be thankful for. She had material comforts and good attentive loving children but she had many grievances she couldnt let go of. I felt very sorry for the arid world she lived in but couldnt give up. I ponder it. I have heard it said that when we become old we are still all the things we always were only more so. For good or evil. I had wonderful examples in my own parents who were steeped in Catholic truth and lived out the gracious acceptance of suffering in union with Jesus. I pray for the grace to embrace each new challenge and suffering myself in that spirit. For patience and perseverence. There are no guarantees. Without prayer we dont stand a chance. Poor old priest. I feel very sorry for him.
     
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    This is the exact mistake of the Modernist Heretics. The exact same mistake that the Protestant rebels/ Heretics make , to view things in a human and not in a Mystical/ Supernatural sense. To see things without the yes of Faith.

    One time a Vatican Grandee was asked why they had not completed Our Lady's request at Fatima for the Consecration of Russia.

    To which he replied,

    'Why should we be dictated to by three peasant children in a remote Portugese mountain?'

    He was looking at things through too human an eye. Not with the eyes of Faith.

    It was the same at Nazareth. They saw Jesus from childhood; but never knew him.

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    The tragedy of this could make me weep.
     
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    Why not say? Perhaps that will be in his memoirs. If that be the case, perhaps he was told not to say just yet.

    There are visionaries who have been told of global events to come, many in their lifetimes. They are not free to divulge yet.

    Not having the answers, we need to trust.
     
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    We need also to be honest and open and frank.

    Too many have told us to be silent for what they have called greater good. The vicims of priestly child abuse and Vatican cover ups for instance.
    We can only judge on what we see in the open light of day.

    As for the secrets of the night? Leave them to those who prefer the darkness. Let us walk in the Light as He is in the Light. Let us have no more secrets.

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    Malachi Martin was very direct when asked why the Fatima secret had not been revealed in 1960.

    “Pope John chose not to reveal it. He disobeyed Our Lady’s command”.

    Always good to remember. Go to the very beginning of the video.

     
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    None of them obeyed Our Lady.

    Not a single solitary one.

    They still do not.

    That is the simple truth.

    They were too, 'wise', to do so.
     
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    I am agreement with Padraig.

    A shepherd does not abandon his flock.

    Christ does not abandon his shepherd - Pope Benedict should have stayed at the helm and consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

    God uses even the weakest of instruments if the soul abandons itself to Divine Providence.
     
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    If I as a Christian make an error the effects are like a little stone rippling in the pond.

    I am afraid Pope Benedict's decision to resign was like a catastrophic tsunami.

    A father never abandons his children when the going gets tough.
     
  17. And the Catholic faithful did not do what was required of them to the extent necessary, obviously. They may not have known what the third secret said specifically but they knew what was required of them and the consequences if they did not do their part. In fact the miracle of the sun of Fatima has been available for any who wished to even enquire about this heaven sent message for the world as proof. How much have the faithful supported through prayers the shepherds, even prior to the scandal being exposed? And in all of Mary's visits she has asked those chosen ones to tell us to pray for the Pope, bishops and priests. W/o them we have no Eucharist. She has asked for nothing else.
     
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    It seems to me that he considered resignation from the Papacy as an option from the beginning. He visited the tomb of Pope Callistus who had resigned centuries ago and left his pallium there also his request that we pray that he would not flee from the wolves shows his thinking from the start.
    I really don't know what to make of any of it. We are in a very dangerous time and my opinion is neither here nor there. I try to stay focused on the Lord and maintain my peace of mind
     
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    Yes Maryrose. That's pretty much my strategy too.
     
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    We know what is the first duty of any Pope. Jesus told us when he said to Peter "Feed my lambs" "Feed my sheep". Jesus didn't mean bread and cakes. And the Great Commission for every Bishop is to "baptise all nations".

    Sometimes the most loving thing a parent can do is to let someone else care for the children. Think adoption and fostering. George Soros survived the holocaust because his father entrusted George to the care of a Protestant. I'm not sure if he was a Protestant Minister. Whether the outcome was the best for George (and ultimately the world) is questionable but there's no doubt that his father acted in what he believed to be his son's best interests. I'm sure that there must have been similar sacrifices made by countless parents down through history.

    The Pope Emeritus continues to pray for the sheep, and the book he has co-written with Cardinal Sarah is proof that he hasn't stopped caring for the priesthood. It's a pity that he retired while he still had full use of his amazing intellect. Even operating on half his intellect, he would have been capable of feeding the sheep with more nutritius food than Amoris Laetitia or Laudato Si.

    Nevertheless, I can only imagine what it must have been like for him at the CDF when Pope John Paul was too ill to exercise his papal authority. I can imagine, too, the salivating in the sauna at St. Gallen and in other places occupied by so-called Catholic intelligentsia when it became obvious that the Captain was too ill to steer the barque. It's understandable that Pope Benedict would have wanted to avoid a recurrence of that scenario. At least he was still alive to admonish the people who tried to pull a fast one with Lettergate. As long as he's alive, they have to be careful what they try to pass off as being in line with what he taught. May the Lord watch over and protect him in the twilight of his life on earth.
     
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