An 'act of love' can lead to death

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by garabandal, Aug 19, 2021.

  1. HeavenlyHosts

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    The thing I read that bothers me the most is that the cells have to be taken from a fetus born live. I wish I could find that link.
     
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    There were warnings early on from experts about the risk of vaccinating into a pandemic. The warnings were ignored. Also, nobody seems to know what they did to the animal virus in that lab, and the people who worked on it are unlikely to be telling the whole story. Does anyone know the real reason the operation was moved from the US to China? For all we know, it could have been because China gave them more freedom than the US to conduct animal/human experiments. Only God and the Drs. Frankenstein know how many murdered babies' cells were used in their experiments.

    There is extremism and misinformation on both sides of this debate. Unfortunately the vaccinate at any cost side controls the media, money and almost every influential organisation. Many people are brainwashed. Many make their decisions because they have far too much trust in politicians and/or the mainstream media. Catholics may have chosen the vaccine thinking it was their obligation because the Pope encouraged it. It's also possible that some Catholics who don't trust this Pope took an anti vaccine stance believing that anything promoted by the pachamama pope is questionable. In the midst of all that, many people on either side made their decision after careful consideration of their own circumstances, after prayer, and after wrestling with their conscience.

    It doesn't help that some of the experts questioning the vaxxers make statements that also appear to be questionable. The expert in the link says that vaccines cause variants. How can that be an accurate statement when the delta variant arose in unvaccinated India and the Lambda came out of unvaccinated Nepal? Hadn't the virus already mutated before vaccines were rolled out? Maybe he is right maybe he is wrong. More detail on how he arrived at his conclusion would be helpful as would answers to the questions about pre-vaccine virus mutations.

    The greatest harm is caused by the lack of open, free debate by experts from both sides.
     
  3. Michael Pio

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    Are they making use of a crisis? Or who has created the crisis, does it have natural causes?
     
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    Unfortunately, it is not that simple at all. The pressure is immense, huge, almost insurmountable.
     
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    Indeed. Both my BIL and now my wife are being coerced by their employers to take the shot or no longer be employed. I feel horrible about this since my wife provides our insurance through her employment because I am disabled and can no longer work. The pressure on all people but especially those of limited means is crushing.
     

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