Did Pope Paul VI have a Body Double?

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  1. garabandal

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    Body doubles.

    I will reward you £1 if you can prove it.
     
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    Xavier, with respect, your source, tldm, is condemned Bayside apparitions.
     
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    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    The Exorcism mentioned in the link is separate. It took place in the 70s in Switzerland. A possessed woman in Switzerland, upon being Exorcised by many Priests, testified to all these things. People may agree or disagree, but in these days, with so many theories about how the Pope could have tried to ban the Latin Mass, imho, this possibility should be considered as at least one legitimate option among others. The following are the Priests convinced of the authenticity of the 70s Swiss Exorcism:

    "1. Abbot Albert‑l`Arx, Niederbuchorten

    2. Abbot Arnold Elig, Ramiswil

    3. Abbot Ernest Fischer, Missionary, Gossau (St.‑Gall).

    4. Rev. Father Pius Gervasi, O.S.B., Disentis

    5. Abbot Karl Holdener, Ried

    6. Rev. Father Gregoire Meyer, ‑ Trimbach

    7. Rev. Father Robert Rinderer, C.P.P.S., Auw

    8. Abbot Louis Veillard, Cerneux‑Pequignot"

    God Bless.
     
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    It's the same man, but at different ages. Ears do get longer with age. Not surprising the teeth look different, so do mine from those of my youth. Paul VI was a gentle, saintly man who was unable to control the forces around him. He was told lies about people who could have helped him control the liberals . All very sad.
     
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    Totally agree
    No cloak and dagger
    Demons lie
    It’s their nature
     
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    Demons dont lie under command of the name of Jesus and Mary
     
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    Darn typos lol
     
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    You can edit your post at any time!
     
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    Thank you. I never even noticed !
     
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    I am not a true believer in the body double thing but i cannot fathom in my brain why this wonderful Pope would change the Mass. He wrote his encyclical on preserving life. Against birth control yet changed the Mass. It is so hard to grasp. I think it is hard for alot of good Catholics to grasp and understand. How did this happen???
     
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    God has allowed this in His permissive will. It was a perfect storm of many unholy variables coming together at one time. There have been multiple threads about this in the past on this forum. I can’t wrack my brain. What’s done is done. It’s Scriptural that the Lord Jesus will reconcile all things to Himself. The Church is made up of imperfect people.
    Traitorous people. Infiltrating people. Wounded people. People seeking holiness.
    But God is still in the NO Mass.
    Like you, I always point out that Pope Paul VI wrote Humanae Vitae. That was such an important contribution.
    I believe that this is a chastisement.
     
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    This is a solid answer to a complex algebraic question. Thanks HH.
     
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    Yes awesome answer thank u
     
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    Algebra is still in my brain. Not that I invited it. :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I love this group because i hear from people who have such deep faith. Its an answer to a prayer!
     
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    Xavier "In the end, My Immaculate Heart will Triumph."

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    This Video just posted by Return to Tradition says Satan was enthroned in the Vatican on June 30/July 1, 1963. Very dark things have been going in Rome recently.



    We know from Church History that Heaven has often compelled demons, under Church Exorcisms, to reveal important Truths in a powerful way. For e.g. St. Montfort relates this incident on the Power of the Rosary:

    “Then listen well, you Christians: the Mother of Jesus Christ is all-powerful and she can save her servants from falling into Hell. She is the Sun which destroys the darkness of our wiles and subtlety. It is she who uncovers our hidden plots, breaks our snares and makes our temptations useless and ineffectual.

    “We have to say, however reluctantly, that not a single soul who has really persevered in her service has ever been damned with us; one single sigh that she offers to the Blessed Trinity is worth far more than all the prayers, desires and aspirations of all the Saints.

    “We fear her more than all the other Saints in Heaven together and we have no success with her faithful servants. Many Christians who call upon her when they are at the hour of death and who really ought to be damned according to our ordinary standards are saved by her intercession.

    “Oh if only that Mary (it is thus in their fury that they called her) had not pitted her strength against ours and had not upset our plans, we should have conquered the Church and should have destroyed it long before this; and we would have seen to it that all the Orders in the Church fell into error and disorder.

    “Now that we are forced to speak we must also tell you this: nobody who perseveres in saying the Rosary will be damned, because she obtains for her servants the grace of true contrition for their sins and by means of this they obtain God’s forgiveness and mercy.” https://www.ecatholic2000.com/montfort/rosary/rosary.shtml


    Similarly, in these 1970's Exorcisms, the importance of receiving Holy Communion kneeling and on the tongue was emphasized. Today, we see visibly the manifest fruits of nearly 50 years of Holy Communion in the hand; loss of Faith in the Real Presence, and sometimes loss of Faith even in the Divinity of Jesus Christ Our Lord. Even Pope Benedict XVI said the Crisis in the Church is above all a Crisis in Her Liturgy. Here's what the Exorcism said about "Communion in the hand".

    "B: There are some quite sincere people who believe that this comes from the Pope and who do not know of the existence of a double. Nor do they know that it is a sin to receive Communion in the hand. They do not wish to stand out from the crowd nor to be conspicuous; they do not know, for example, what is said in the book, “Warnings...”, or what has been said previously through authentic privileged souls, namely that Communion should not be taken in the hand; such people are not committing a serious sin;[52] it is not their fault if the priest does things that way.

    And then, there is also this: in many churches, when people genuflect and wish to receive Communion in the mouth, they are made to feel unpopular as far as the priest is concerned. In that case also, the sin is not so serious. He up there (he points upward) judges each case individually. It cannot be said categorically that such a person will go to Hell because he receives Communion in the hand, when he does not know that this practice is not desired up there.

    These people act through obedience and believe that it comes from the Pope, because they do not know that there is a double and that there are some cardinals who are disloyal to the Pope. They go along under the banner of obedience. I want to say that if these Christians should happen to get hold of tracts coming from other genuinely privileged souls, or from priests, which warn them that they have no right and should not, and if they receive the interior light - which, when received certainly comes from On High - and if, in spite of everything, they do the opposite, saying to themselves: “It's all the same whether I receive Communion in the mouth or in the hand - it is of no importance”, then the situation is different. Then, naturally, it is a sin. That is what else we must tell you. It depends always on each individual case."

    These warnings were made 50 years ago. What are the fruits 50 years later, of Communion in the hand? Giving and receiving Holy Communion irreverently in the hand, having scores of "Extraordinary Ministers" etc has destroyed or gravely weakened the Faith of millions. https://www.ncronline.org/news/theo...majority-catholics-dont-believe-real-presence We should consider returning to the older practice, asking our Priests to give Holy Communion only on the tongue and receive while kneeling. God Bless.
     

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