The Whiny Sodomic Western MSMedia's peddlers of HomoSex attack any semblance of Christianity! From a few years ago.. (This is but one of 1000's of examples) Russia’s “Gay Propaganda” Law Imperils LGBT Youth Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) youth in Russia face formidable barriers to enjoying their fundamental rights to dignity, health, education, information, and association. In Russia, antipathy towards homosexuality and gender variance is not new—LGBT people there have long faced threats, bullying, abuse inside their families, and discrimination—but the 2013 “gay propaganda” law has increased that social hostility. The law has also had a stifling effect on access to affirming education and support services, with harmful consequences for LGBT youth. Russia’s “gay propaganda” law is a classic example of political homophobia. It targets vulnerable sexual and gender minorities for political gain. When Russian president Vladimir Putin signed the federal law in June 2013, he pandered to a conservative domestic support base. And on the international stage, the law helped position Russia as a champion of so-called “traditional values.” The legislation, formally titled the law “aimed at protecting children from information promoting the denial of traditional family values,” bans the “promotion of nontraditional sexual relations to minors”—a reference universally understood to mean a ban on providing children access to information about LGBT people’s lives. The ban includes, but is not limited to, information provided via the press, television, radio, and the internet. The law has been used to shut down websites that provide valuable information and services to teens across Russia and to bar LGBT support groups from working with youth. But the law’s effects have been much broader: individual mental health professionals have curtailed what they say and what support they give to students, and the law gives the strong imprimatur of the Russian state to the false and discriminatory view that LGBT people are a threat to tradition and the family. Significantly, mental health providers we spoke with said the law interferes with their ability to offer honest, scientifically accurate, and open counseling services, leading some to self-censor themselves or set out explicit disclaimers at the start of sessions to avoid running afoul of the law. https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/12/12/no-support/russias-gay-propaganda-law-imperils-lgbt-youth MORAL? Don't Peddle Sodomic Filth in Russia!
Patriarch Kirill is so right in this. But why doesn't he speak out about the war in Ukraine? This is the problem with a State Church. They go along with the State so much. It's as if he was Putin's Shadow. What a pain. The Conversion of Russia means the Schismatic Orthodox coming back into the One True Church. This has not happened yet.
they also allow divorce followed by second and even third marriages (even if widowhood does not occur) so they gave in to modernity that puts human desires above the words of Christ.
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Even during Soviet Union days, the Russian Orthodox Church was complicit, by its Caesaropapist subjection to the Communist State, in the Persecution of Eastern Rite Roman Catholics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easte..._persecutions#Ukrainian_Greek_Catholic_Church "Suppression of Eastern Catholic Churches by Stalin Ruthenian Church After World War II, the Russian Orthodox Church was given some freedom by the atheist government of Joseph Stalin, which held to the doctrine of Marxist–Leninist atheism. However, the Eastern Catholic (also called Oriental) Churches which were united with Rome, were persecuted. Leaders of the Orthodox Oriental Churches faced intense pressure to break with Rome and unite with Moscow. Pope Pius addressed specifically the Ruthenian Catholic Church located in the Ukraine. Some Ruthenian Catholics call themselves Rusyns. They speak a dialect of the Ukrainian language. The traditional Rusyn homeland extends into northeast Slovakia and the Lemko region of southeast Poland. Until 1922, the area was largely a part of Austria-Hungary. After much of the area was added to Poland, which follows the Latin rite, Polonisation and significant problems for all Orthodox and Uniate Christians developed.[2][3] Some Ruthenians, resisting Polonisation, felt deserted by the Vatican and returned to the Russian Orthodox Church during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI. Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church After 1945, it was claimed that the Union of Brest was a Polish conspiracy to dominate and wipe out the Oriental culture of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church: Uniate and Orthodox faithful and priests had to suffer under Polish bishops of the Latin Rite and Polonisation. But now they are liberated by the Soviet Army under the leadership of the incomparable Marshal Joseph Stalin and therefore, continued ties to Rome are no longer necessary.[4] Role of Russian Orthodox Patriarch The new Patriarch, Alexius I of Moscow called on all Catholics in the Soviet Union for a separation from Rome: Liberate yourself! You must break the Vatican chains, which throw you into the abyss of error, darkness and spiritual decay. Hurry, return to your true mother, the Russian Orthodox Church! [5] Pope Pius XII replied: "Who does not know, that Patriarch Alexius I recently elected by the dissident bishops of Russia, openly exalts and preaches defection from the Catholic Church. In a letter lately addressed to the Ruthenian Church, a letter, which contributed not a little to the persecution?".[6] Orientales omnes Ecclesias Orientales omnes Ecclesias refers to United Nations resolutions of a world of tolerance, free of religious persecution . Pius continues, This had given us hope that peace and true liberty would be granted everywhere to the Catholic Church, the more so since the Church has always taught, and teaches, that obedience to the ordinances of the lawfully established civil power, within the sphere and bounds of its authority, is a duty of conscience. But, unfortunately, the events we have mentioned have grievously and bitterly weakened, have almost destroyed, our hope and confidence so far as the lands of the Ruthenians are concerned.[7] The Pope knew about the attempts to separate the Uniate churches from Rome, and was also aware, that in months preceding the encyclical Orientales omnes Ecclesias, all Catholic bishops of the Ukrainian Church had been arrested. Josyf Slipyj, Gregory Chomysyn, John Laysevkyi, Nicolas Carneckyi, Josaphat Kocylovskyi Some, including Bishop Nicetas Budka perished in Siberia.[8] Show trials Subjected to Stalinist show trials, they all received severe sentencing. The remaining leaders of the hierarchies and heads of all seminaries and Episcopal offices were arrested and tried in 1945 and 1946. July 1, 1945, some three hundred priests of the United Church wrote to Molotov. They protested the arrest of all bishops and large parts of the Catholic clergy.[9] After the Church was thus robbed of all its leadership, a “spontaneous movement” for separation from Rome, and unification with the Russian Orthodox Church developed. Mass arrests of priests followed. In Lemko, some five hundred priests were jailed in 1945[10] or sent to a Gulag, officially called, “an unknown destination because of political reasons”.[11] Subsequent confiscation of properties The Catholic Church was annihilated, Church institutions were confiscated and expropriated; churches, monasteries and seminaries closed and looted.[12] After the war, the Catholic Uniate churches were integrated under the Moscow Patriarchy, after all residing bishops and apostolic administrators were arrested on March 6, 1946.[13] The Catholic Church of Ukraine was thus liquidated. All properties were turned over to the Orthodox Church under the Patriarch of Moscow. Some persecuted bishops Nykyta Budka Walter Ciszek Potapy Emelianov Leonid Feodorov Clement Sheptytsky Josyf Slipyj Vasyl Velychkovsky Theodore Romzha Papal encyclicals on the persecution The encyclical Orientales omnes Ecclesias is a summary of the relations between the Uniated (Eastern) churches and Rome until the persecutions 1945. Pope Pius XII presents a comprehensive historical review of the reunion, to show the many trials and bloody persecutions but also the advantages of the union to the faithful in Ukraine. In Sacro Vergente this history is repeated with view to relations with Russia in general. He again rejects communism but not communists. Those who err, are always welcome.[14] At Saint Josaphat College he mourns the terrible changes of the past twenty years in Russia, bishops incarcerated, in concentration camps, banned from their homes, killed while in jail, for one reason only, they are faithful to the Holy See.[15]"
Kirill's 'rightness' shines a Light against all Nations who legally support & promote Sodomy, ... Patriarch Kirill has spoken out about the war in Ukraine The Texts of What he and President Putin say - rarely reaches Western MSMedia - The Enemy works hard to Divide the Catholic Church AND its Sister Apostolic Orthodox Churches Some of us know about his influence against the Catholic Church - Fewer have heard about the recentish (2019) attacks against the ROC within Orthodoxy.. Russian President Vladimir Putin, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Patriarch Kirill at the newly constructed Resurrection of Christ Cathedral Where's Catholic? Biden, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Milley, and Catholic? Francis? ___________________________________________ Russian Patriarch Kirill has said he understands a decision by the Russian Orthodox Church's branch in Ukraine to cut ties amid Moscow's plans to defend Russia's Sovereignty "We fully understand how the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is suffering today," the head of the Russian Orthodox Church said at Moscow's Cathedral of Christ the Savior on May 29. He added that the "spirits of malice" wanted to divide the Orthodox people of Russia and Ukraine but they would not succeed. In 2019, the Orthodox Church of Ukraine was officially recognized by Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople, the spiritual head of Orthodox Christianity's 300 million-strong worldwide community. It heralded a historic break with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, ending more than three centuries of Russian spiritual and temporal control of the dominant faith in Ukraine. However, many parishes, especially in Ukraine's east, elected to remain loyal under the umbrella of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate. +
Xavier, I am not a fan of lifesitenews or Bishop Schneider but agree with his comments about the consecration of Russia mentioned in that article you posted. Here is something I wrote at the time of the consecration. https://littleeucharisticbrothers.blogspot.com/2022/03/consecration-of-russia-and-ukraine-and.html QUOTE="Xavier, post: 394511, member: 6376"]I agree with what Bishop Athanasius Schneider has said about this: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...ia-as-fulfilling-our-lady-of-fatimas-request/ "Fatima being fulfilled Speaking of consecrations, I asked him about Pope Francis’ consecration of Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This action by Pope Francis has been a source of debate for Catholics, with some believing that the Pope – however unlikely it was for a man like Francis – had finally fulfilled Our Lady’s requests to consecrate Russia as was instructed to Sister Lucia. “Thanks be to God, the pope finally consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart on March 25th.” I pressed the bishop just a bit to get a more developed answer so that he might address some of the concerns individuals may have about the validity of the consecration. “We have to have the right understanding of the consecration,” he said. “This is not a sacrament. A sacrament is operating instantly when the conditions are fulfilled … a consecration that the pope is doing is a sacramental (he spoke with emphasis).” Contrasting a sacramental and a sacramental, he explained: “It is a kind of intercession, prayer. It is a work of the church directly, not of God Himself directly. It is a work of the Church and depends on the prayers of the Church.” “In the eyes of God, it has an objective value because it is a work of the Church.” It should be expected that the effects of a consecration are “not immediate,” he added. “People who are awaiting from this consecration of Fatima – which the pope did – an immediate effect, they have in my opinion a deficient understanding of this because it is a kind of understanding like a magic act. It’s not a magic act … doing something then it is produced. These attitudes of these people are implicitly a lack of faith. It’s a lack of faith, they want immediately to see the result. This is not Catholic, this is not Catholic.” He went on to say that “it is up to God” to know the timing of what will come of the Consecration of Russia. Bishop Schneider also stressed that for the bishops to be “in union” with the Pope – which was a stipulation given by the Virgin Mary – “is not a question of arithmetic.” I said to him, “Whenever the Pope does something publicly as the Vicar of Christ, as the head of the bishops on Earth and says he’s doing so in union with them, I mean, that is de facto something done in union with the bishops … ” Schneider replied, “Exactly, I agree with you.” In addition, he made reference to the fact that arithmetical majority is not required for even an ecumenical council decision to be an act of the Pope in union with the bishops. “If the majority of the bishops would vote for a deficient formulation about faith or something ambiguous, and the minority would vote for a clear statement … if the Pope will join the minority and not the majority, then it will be the decision of the entire Catholic Church … it is sufficient that the pope and the minority … will constitute the entire Church.” The interview ended with Bishop Schneider leading the prayer he composed to hasten the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.[/QUOTE]
Xavier I agree with everything you wrote here. In order to get to the era of Peace the poison that is infecting us all has to be got out and this will take some time as God doesn't want to kill the patient but will bring healing step by step for the church and then the world. I think the recent death of the Queen also begins a new phase and a universal grace was poured out on the world and caused many to reflect over the mourning period and to be confronted with the Christian message of hope in the Resurrection and Eternal Life through the rituals, songs and prayers chosen by the Queen. This has in a sense been a preparation for the Warning and the Miracle. Heaven wants to give us all the chances it can to turn back.
Is it a condition of this group to be a fan of people or groups who are negative towards the Pope? Is so I am happy if you cancel me before i even get started.
The consensus of the forum owner and many of the most active forum members is that this pope does not have the best interests of the Church at heart. Take that as you may.
I’ve written for LifeSiteNews and met Bishop Schneider several times, including having lunch with him and several friends at the home of a theologian of systematic theology several years ago. (This theologian was one of the signatories of the first formal repudiation of this pope, of a list of erroneous propositions that can be drawn from a natural reading of the pope’s post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia.) I hold Bishop Schneider in highest esteem, probably one of the best bishops in the world at present. And LifeSiteNews is one of the best Catholic sources of news globally at present, so your first post may have struck a nerve. My apologies for a terse initial reaction. We’ve been dealing with multiple (liberal/ heterodox) trolls of late on the forum and have a knee jerk reaction to certain types of posts.
Brian, I understand that and sympathise with the headache of dealing with such people. I am not a troll or at least I don't think so, as I am interested in many of the subjects discussed here. I am not a modernist or liberal Catholic nor am I a traditionalist but I would say I am orthodox and conservative. I am a consecrated brother and the superior/ moderator of my community in a public association of Christ's Faithful under our geographical Archbishop. I am also a Hebrew Catholic and I personally belong to the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross as i came from both an evangelical Anglican and orthodox Jewish background into the Church. I adhere to this teaching from Lumen Gentium. "This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking." from Lumen Gentium 25 a dogmatic constitution of the Church. I hope to participate in some interesting discussions. We will have to agree to disagree about Bishop Schneider and lifesitenews as they are not my cup of tea and I have serious disagreement with their theological positions on certain issues among other things. However, I am happy to read their ideas and to either agree or disagree with them on each issue if it comes up from my perspective. I think AL is a beautiful document but I am probably one of the few people who read the whole document from the beginning and I certainly disagree with many of the critics and criticisms of it. But that is another discussion. I am open with what I think so you won't have to worry I have some hidden agenda except to save souls. here is the link to my community's website. https://littleeucharisticbrothers.org/
I'm on Gloria Tv a fair bit and have people flat out tell me that the "consecration was not valid". As if they had divine proof or something. I don't get this sort of attitude. Unless they have Heaven on speed dial, that is their pride talking.
Wild, Some people are determined to dislike anything Pope Francis does or says. It clashes with their view of who they think Pope Francis is when he does something so orthodox and Marian as affirm Fatima and actually to best of his ability to fulfill Our Lady's request at Fatima. I found some people were going to be against whoever was made Pope as they had been reading those false messages of Mary Carberry known as Maria Divine Mercy who said that the next Pope would be an anti-christ. Many formed this antiFrancis attitude then and even after Maria Divine Mercy was seen as a fake they kept their attitude towards the Pope. Once one gets into a critical mindset on something it is very difficult to stop and reevaluate and look at it with fresh eyes. I had friends like this who got more and more rigid and unloving the more they imbibed the anti-Francis rhetoric. No Pope is perfect and one may have legitimate questions about certain pastoral policies or actions which may be appropriate to express if done with great respect and humility that one may be wrong and the Pope right. To impute bad faith to the Pope is for me very problematic.
We do NOT tolerate anything related to Maria Divine Mercy on this forum. If you think valid criticism of this papacy is simply based on a failed self proclaimed mystic, you do not grasp the real problems of this papacy. That’s ok. As a consecrated brother you have a degree of obedience that simply does not apply to laity. On the other hand, we laity have not only the right, but a positive duty, to inform others of the very real and dangerous errors of this papacy. Whether you recognize them or not.
I doubt very much that universal grace was poured out on the world as a result of the death of Queen Elizabeth. It was a TV event for a day but the majority of people in the world will forget her tomorrow. Very few will pray for her soul. She appears to have been a sincere woman but I think you overplay the role of someone who was a figurative head of state and someone who signed the abortion legislation that legalised the mass killing of the unborn in Britain.
Wow of to a great start Firstly let me introduce myself my name is John and I volunteer here as site admin. I am an Irish Catholic and was taught from a young age to show respect when visiting a persons home or community, It usually starts with an introduction and a greeting "Hello and God bless all who dwell here" I am passionate about this little forum which I tenderly call Our Lady's living room which by your quote above you have walked into unannounced swinging a base ball bat. Could I suggest you maybe have a good look at all of this beautiful site, Pope francis topics are a very small part of a much much bigger picture and to label over 2000 members as you did on one particular subject in my opinion is just insulting. Please stay as long as you wish but if you feel this home is not for you then by all means dust the sand from your sandals. God Bless John.
