As the Learned Chinese sage of yore commented years ago to his equally learned dog, Yo-yo thousands of years ago, 'Yo-Yo that's a bridge to cross when we come to it!'
That is true but after the synod of synods a new NO rite could be coming to a parish near you and me.
Another thing. When you make very difficult moral decisions like this it is very,very important to keep your emotions in check. I got the impression that Mother Miriam was very angry. This too gave me pause for thought.
I hope you have a double barrel lol If you were in Germany or Flanders you would already be firing at the ducks. These regions have already apostacised and I doubt you you could get a valid Mass in some of their dioceses
We are living through cardinal Vs cardinal and bishop Vs bishop. Dear God give us all the grace of prudence.
I am going to increase my rosaries. The closer we are to our Lady in these times the better she is a bulwark against heresy.
Yes, I am so glad I am retiring, I hope to spend more time in front of the Blessed Sacrament. I have never yet spent an hour in front of the Tabernacle and not left all my cares behind me.
An unjust attempt to abrogate the historical Liturgy of more than 1500 years of the Church and 99% of her Saints should make any faithful Catholic angry: https://carm.org/other-questions/what-is-righteous-anger/ What is righteous anger? Matt Slick Righteous anger is that anger which is properly motivated and is, therefore, without sin. It is that anger that is against unrighteousness, the profane, that which is evil, etc. However, on the one hand, we are told to put anger aside (Col. 3:8; Eph. 4:31). But on the other, we are told to be angry, yet without sin (Eph. 4:26). In fact, when we look at Scripture we discover that God got angry. This is not a contradiction because different contexts carry different meaning of what the anger is. Exodus 4:14, “Then the anger of the LORD burned against Moses, and He said, “Is there not your brother Aaron the Levite? I know that he speaks fluently. And moreover, behold, he is coming out to meet you; when he sees you, he will be glad in his heart.” Judges 3:8, “Then the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel so that He sold them into the hands of Cushan-rishathaim king of Mesopotamia; and the sons of Israel served Cushan-rishathaim eight years.” Jeremiah 51:45, “Come forth from her midst, My people, and each of you save yourselves from the fierce anger of the LORD.” So, if God gets angry, then anger is not automatically a sin. Of course, whenever God gets angry, it is righteous anger. He gets upset with people when they commit idolatry, are rebellious, lie, steal, etc. In fact, he hates those who do iniquity (Psalm 5:5; 11:5). But, God is also loving (John 3:16; 1 John 4:8) and extremely patient with us (Romans 2:4). We, on the other hand, often get angry unrighteously. Therefore, we have such verses as the following. Col. 3:8, “But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.” Ephesians 4:26, “Be angry, and yet do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger.” Because we are sinners, our judgments are often motivated out of self-righteousness and not the glory of God. When we are wronged we get angry we want justice upon the offender. But, often we do not have all of the facts, and so we commit a kind of murder in our hearts when we get angry. Jesus taught a harsh message about unrighteous anger. Matthew 5:21-22, “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.” Anger is a judgment, an accusation of unrighteousness, and even a desire for the injury of someone else. Such judgments are not our responsibility. Only God has all the information and knows the motives of the hearts of all people. Therefore, he is the only one who can judge righteously, be angry with people, and not sin. James 1:20, “for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.” Jesus got angry Many people see Jesus as the blond-haired, blue-eyed, Caucasian surfer dude, who’s dressed in a woman’s nightgown, standing at the door of our heart, asking for permission to come in and save us. This passive and feminized view of Christ is unbiblical. When we look at the Gospels, we find out that Jesus got angry. Mark 3:5, “After looking around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, He [Jesus] said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored.” Matthew 21:12, “And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves.” In fact, Jesus was often judgmental. Matthew 23:27, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.” Mark 12:38-40, “Beware of the scribes who like to walk around in long robes, and like respectful greetings in the market places, 39 and chief seats in the synagogues, and places of honor at banquets, 40 who devour widows’ houses, and for appearance’s sake offer long prayers; these will receive greater condemnation.” Luke 13:15, “But the Lord answered him and said, “You hypocrites, does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or his donkey from the stall and lead him away to water him?” John 8:44, “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father…” Ephesians 4:26 Ephesians 4:26, “BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger.” What do we do with Ephesians 4:26were Paul quotes Psalm 4:4 and tells us to be angry? Is it okay to be angry? Yes, it is. Let’s look at the context. Ephesians 4:24–27, “and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth. 25 Therefore, laying aside falsehood, SPEAK TRUTH EACH ONE of you WITH HIS NEIGHBOR, for we are members of one another. 26 BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger, 27 and do not give the devil an opportunity.” Paul the Apostle is contrasting the old sinful ways with the ways of righteousness which, of course, are exemplified in Christ. We are to speak the truth, and we are to be holy. In that context were told to “be angry” and it is anger towards evil, the opposite of holiness. Of course, our anger should emulate Christ’s anger. Two examples are recorded in Mark 3:5 and Matthew 21:12. In the former, Jesus was angry with the Pharisees who were plotting to kill him for healing someone on the Sabbath. In Matthew 21:12 Jesus is rightfully angry with those who are using the house of God per profiteering. Of course, we can find other examples, But it should be obvious that we are to follow righteousness and be angry at the promotion of evil. Therefore, righteous anger is that godly attitude of condemnation and judgment of that which contradicts the character and will of God.
That said, the only time I even think about these issues now is when I occasionally pop into MOG. I’m too busy wrenching on Harleys, and thoroughly enjoying it, to get up much of a dander any more about this heretic pope and his minions. God is in control and will intervene in His good time.
perhaps we will have a relief of conscience from this dilemma when the structure of the monarchical papacy is replaced by consensus governance between bishops and laity after the next synod.
Today's reading at mass (Old Mass) on anger from St Paul certainly gives pause for thought. I had never noticed this before today: EPISTLE Ephesians 4: 23-28 Brethren, Be ye renewed in the spirit of your mind, and put on the new man, who according ito God, is created in justice and holiness of truth. Wherefore, putting away lying, speak ye the truth every man with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. Be angry, and sin not. Let not the sun go down upon your anger. Give not place to the devil. He that stole, let him now steal no more; but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have something to give to him Fratres, Renovámini spíritu mentis vestræ, et indúite novum hóminem, qui secúndum Deum creátus est in justítia, et sanctitáte veritátis. Propter quod deponéntes mendácium, loquímini veritátem unusquísque cum próximo suo: quóniam sumus ínvicem membra. Irascímini, et nolíte peccáre: sol non óccidat super iracúndiam vestram. Nolíte locum dare diábolo: qui furabátur, jam non furétur: magis autem labóret, operándo mánibus suis, quod bonum est, ut hábeat unde tríbuat necessitátem patiénti
I am puzzled, Padraig. When the covid restrictions were put in place in Northern Ireland by the Church (a position the Pope agreed with), didn't your parish celebrate the TLM in defiance. I think once you even mentioned that some men in the parish functioned as lookouts. Now my memory could be faulty and correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps you didn't attend these Holy Masses, but the circumstances back then would be similar to the shutdown you posted above. I must be missing something?
Right. As I said before on another thread, Our Savior knows quite well how to drive the money-changers out of the temple. It is not time yet to act. Wait on the Lord, be stouthearted. Pray many rosaries.
