I just heard this news from Taylor Marshall. He is incredulous. Horrified.. He is asking everyone to pray a Rosary for Fr Pavone.
I watched Dr Marshall. He posted on the hoof in an airport lounge and was in a total rage. I think posting on the spur of the moment in such a mood was a bad idea. I think also he was not aware of all the facts. Fr Solanus Casey used to warn folks of the need to be loyal to Rome . He was Prophetic in this. Priests need to be loyal and obedient to their Bishops. This is a must. Padre Pio was a huge teacher in this.
Agree completely. Disobedience to the bishop is a bad sign in the general course of things. I always remember Jesus telling Sr Josefa Menendez that obedience to her superior was her protection against the devil's wiles. That she was always to obey her superior even if it contradicted what He Himself was telling her.
Yes obedience is a big, big, big red line that must not be crossed. It was the same deal with Fr Altman, if you recall.
God has and is raising up others. I was listening to these two last night. Quite extraordinary, a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. A female Mystic and an Archbishop speaking as one. Very,very rare in the history of the Church. Quite stunning in fact.
I will watch this soon. Archbishop Cordileone is the prelate who banned Nancy Pelosi from receiving Holy Communion.
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone is such a composed, peaceful, and grounded prelate, in the above video he gives measured Catholic responses which not only touch the heart but pierce the soul with truth. God Bless and protect him now and always. Amen
The joy of the Lord is my strength (When times get tough) O blood and water which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of mercy for us, we trust in You.
Well I earnestly wouldn’t want to bring harm to anybody’s soul, not my intention. However I grow weary of the back and forth that is taking place. For me the Church is like a pendulum that has begun swinging violently out of control. The reason a pendulum is balanced is not its lack of motion or oscillation, but its ability to keep perfect time. now is it that time has sped up, or is it the mechanisms are malfunctioning. Either way being able to adjust and adapt is primitive logic. I believe in the sacraments, and I believe through confirmation that people are anointed in the Holy Spirit. I believe in the real presence. However I a simple man, and I personally am u able to deal and cope with all the drama in the Church. I visit the Lord, not as often as I used to, but it is how I live the messages of Garabandal. If I am on the wrong path, it is my hope the Lord will set me straight, or right a straight line with my crooked being. The problem I think is I feel like I have to defend myself all the time, or justify to others who I am. People assume things without ever investigating. I spent so many years worried about the “end times” or apocalypse that after some reflection my life had not improved. Not that I wasn’t close to God, but too much self inflicted suffering. They say grace builds upon nature, so at this point in my life, I want to build a good natural life for myself so that God can build gracefully with me. I shouldn’t have to feel like I am trying to build a house in the middle of the ocean from driftwood. So I have swam to shore to look for verdant pastures. That’s just me though.
Agree. It describes your feelings and situation perfectly. I agree with your assessment, as well. I, too, feel as though I have to defend myself all the time. I recently made the decision to stop doing it. It feels right. When Our Lord Jesus walked the earth, he faced similar situations. “The battle belongs to the Lord.”
You express very well what many of us feel Carol. These are unprecedented times. The ship of Peter is being tossed about so violently that most of us are sea sick to one degree or another. This is where staying very little helps. Marino Restrepo has spoken of this. While the storms and tides shreik and roll it is all the more necessary to hold the hand of Our Lady and pray the Rosary and trust that God will bring His Son's bride to safe harbor. As Our Lady told Fr Gobbi "the only safe place will be in my Immaculate Heart where I will keep you as in an enclosed garden." She is the Ark for these times.
Very inspiring post. And Sr. Lucia said that the rosary will solve all problems. Our Lady told her that.
This Father Pavone might have been disobedient; however, had he been a disobedient homosexualist or modernist theologian, would he have been dealt with in such a rigid, inflexible way? How many clerics were shown understanding, even provided free 'treatment' for routinely buggering boys, surely acts of the most complete moral disobedience?
Yes. However Fr James Martin (or others) being very, very wrong and getting away with it, does not mean that Fr Frank Pavone (or others) , should get away with things as well. Clearly it it is very , very unjust that people like Fr James Martin and the German Bishops should get away with what they are getting away with. But because they are getting away with things does not mean that everyone else should get away with things. That is the road to chaos and madness. But I do take the point that if Fr Pavone had been an active homosexual promoting 'Gay' Rights he would very probably have been made a Cardinal rather than being dismissed from the priesthood. But this still doesn't make Fr Pavone right; anymore than it makes all the homosexuals that Pope Francis has made Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops , right . In fact, as far as I can see, being a sexual pervert at this stage seems to be a prerequisite for promotion from Rome. None of this, however, makes Fr Frank Pavone right.
You are correct about Father Pavone. There is no excuse for his, presumably recalcitrant, disobedience. However, justice is mocked when it is so selective. Such severe actions against orthodox clerics are becoming routine. Is it intended as a tactic to subdue and suppress orthodoxy, while simultaneously rubbing the noses of the faithful in it by celebrating the crimes and misdemeanours of the dishonest, heretical and perverted?
Things these days a bit like riding a bike in a gale force wind. We, can, all of us only pedal on as best we can. I would be uncomfortable, though of regarding Mr Pavone as some kind of victim/hero and joining in a general chorus of praise. I really don't think he is. Of course it's true there is a bias in all this. I mentioned this in a previous post. Of course there is a general bias , that much is evident. But two wrongs don't make a right. A lot of the difficulties folks get into with stuff like this as regarding Religious/ Spiritual/Moral issues as Political and to take Left/ Right Wing stands.
