The Pope is the Pope. God allowed this in the Church. LOTS of questionable and even evil popes throughout the last 2000 years. Less than a handful out of over 400 have been made Saints. No,... Pope Francis is NOT correct in allot of his sayings and opinions, but that never affects Church Dogma. No Pope can change that. I always use the High Priest at Christ's death as an example: He was evil but unknowingly did the work of God. If this Pope tests our faith, then we need to learn our faith better to stay faithful. I think Jesus is always cleaning out His Church. Separating the Sheep from the Goats. Don't be a Goat! LOL Learn your faith, accept that this Pope is not proclaiming the Gospel like we all know he should, and be faithful to the Church. If this pope says it's okay to sin, that's only his opinion, but YOU don't have to sin. You know the Commandments, the Dogmas, what the Eucharist is. Pray for the "goats" that listen to worldly garbage and take these comments as a license to sin. Honestly, those that agree with some of his nonsense are not interested in loving God, they only want to hear that sin is OK. They want their sin and heaven too. When we get another pope like Benedict back, they will all scream in rage and leave the Church. I hope the screen door smacks em hard too! PS...remember Judas really WAS an Apostle... Even our Lord had to deal with this nonsense..
I think it’s important to know that a person excommunicates themselves in this instance, if I am not mistaken. “Self inflicted by words and actions”
I think the protestants have really switched the mindset of people to think that a church is defined by the persons in it. That would mean in their minds Judas killed the Church right at the very beginning. No wonder so many protestants desperately try to make excuses for Judas and refuse to take him as an example of someone who the apostles believe clearly gave up his salvation and to be blunt...went to hell. They only really HAVE the pastor and his or her sermons to go by at their church. They have nothing written in stone like our Church's Dogma and Catechism. They rave on about having the spirit yet refuse to think the Spirit would be with the Church first and foremost to be unified and put the Truth out there for ALL people, not just themselves or their little community. But this judging a church through it's members has even spread into Catholics who just let themselves get jostled along with the opinions of others. They hear something by someone they think is holy and go "wow" and follow that person and don't bother to read the Bible or the Catechism or find out the Truth of their own Church. This is why so many wander off to protestant churches and even become mormons and join other cults.
Another great example of this "not my Pope" can be found again in Jesus day in the High Priest. The retired High Priest passed it on to his son in law, so that he still would have control over the office, as is plain in the Gospels during Jesus trial. I wonder what those Jews all thought about that? I'm sure it caused some problems with them... We simply must let God control His Church, and remember to obey the Church, and take the humans with a grain of salt. If they are acting as Church Authority, we must obey, and if they use that Authority to do evil or try to change Truth, the Church has a means to stop this.
These times are so difficult. It's true it can be a real martyrdom for Catholics who truly love Our Mother the Church. I love listening to Fr Mark Goring. Though I sense he is more than a little bit innocent about what is going down inside the Church. I listening to a recent video of his about the Holy Father's ongoing to Iraq/ Babylon. I disagreed with every single word he said. But I don't think any the less of him for being totally duped. He is a very,very holy and admirable young priest. It's possible to disagree with people and still respect and admire them. But there are limits/ Saying the Pope is not the Pope is crossing a total Red line. Have a look at the comments section below this video, they are instructive. Pinned by Fr. Mark Goring Vga Kga 2 hours ago You are correct Father, I am a middle eastern catholic and we are so inspired and happy that the Holy Father is here, and also he is giving hope to all the people of Iraq from all religions who are so joyful about his visit and they worked tirelessly to make this event so special, especially our christian iraqi brothers and sisters 89 Padraig Caughey 37 minutes ago An exercise in Narcisstic Exhibitionism? 'Look at me how special I am'. While at the same time forwarding his Globalist one World, Masonic, Agenda. Nauseating. 1 Paisley 2 hours ago I'm confused... Francis is so pastoral with Iraqui Christians yet at the same time tells Catholics in China to "obey the government!". What's up with that? 106 Cindy Hipple 1 hour ago Did the Pope happen to mention Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life? 40 Janka Mazúrová 2 hours ago (edited) No masks and travelling to another country...and here we are in Slovakia wearing masks even outside in fresh air, staying home and living without confession and Eucharist...hypocrisy. 112 guscaldas3 1 hour ago Still waiting for the Pope to condemn abortion in his homeland Argentina, as well as the rise of Communism in the Americas. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us. 50 jp byrne 2 hours ago Will he tell them there is but one way to heaven and that is through our Lord and savior jesus Christ.. No he won't he will call it bringing faiths together.. 68 Chris Stoble 2 hours ago (edited) I’m not 100% sure this is a good thing aren’t they meeting at a ziggurat (ancient pagan place of worship) or maybe I’m misinformed. I’m not sure what to think. The Church is in shambles, Intereligious dialogue should be way down on the list of priorities but it seems to be priority #1 these days. 77 All for the glory of the Lord 50 minutes ago Why is it that my Parish won't let me enter the building without a mask, and Pope Francis can travel to Iraq without one? It's time for the Church to put an end to this mask sham for us little people also. 10 channel surfer 13 minutes ago no, no, no..."inter-religious harmony" is blasphemy. Pope Francis is a sick joke. 2 Zenia Zenia 1 hour ago There were twelve men who refused to bring bricks to the Tower of Babel... Abraham was one. 10 Caprice123 2 hours ago I can’t warm to Pope Francis’s current visit Fr Mark. Yes, Jesus said not to alienate those of other beliefs but He never encouraged us to be accepting of other faiths. I don’t trust those who would want Islam to dominate the world. There is something inside of me that says to be very wary of such a visit. Such an innocent approach on the part of the Catholic Church could be seen as a sign of weakness and a willingness to unite under one belief in that all religions lead to God. What of our Saviour, Jesus Christ? Is He to be forgotten and not revered for His ultimate sacrifice to mankind? 57 Narrow Path Man with Luke McCann 1 hour ago Lads and ladettes, no matter how whacked out of his mind Pope Francis seems at times, we need to keep praying for him. Pray, pray, pray. Then stealth-sneak pray some more. Thanks for this positive message today Fr Goring 13 Patricia Cox 40 minutes ago He is indicating he is for a one world religion. He States that Muslims, Catholics and Jews have the same god. It cannot be. This may look loving in the press but It is a dangerous position to take. It is Jesus alone who is the Savior. Jews and Muslims do not believe in Him 5 10
Wow. The comments are so astute. I too keep thinking of our Chinese brothers and sisters who have been betrayed. We are in a terrible terrible time.
Agreed, AED. I've seen some of my good Catholic friends, especially online, become "Bene-Vacantists" as they call it, people who believe Pope Benedict XVI is still the Pope. I try to explain to them that according to Theologians, as per Siscoes article mentioned earlier, if a Pope is Universally Accepted, he is certainly validly elected. Some are convinced, others are doubtful. Confusing times for all of us. May we all grow in Faith and Charity every day and live and die as Catholic Christians. No one has the right to ask us to change our Faith, which is the only true Faith, and is immutable Truth.
The only we’ll know for certain if Francis does something to the belief in the real presence. He allegedly told a Protestant that the important thing in communion is not the bread but the brother. It’s always a zig-zag and one moment he’s promoting errors like ecumenism of blood and the next condemning euthanasia. Is he a heretic? Can’t tell. Are people who see evidence for it delusional or rad trads? Nope. Gaslighting people would be against charity. No true pope can be a heretic. Universal acceptance can’t be the deciding factor because in history there were antipopes who were peacefully accepted. First of all the long form of the St. Michael prayer tells us what the popes genuinely feared and considered possible. Second, if he is genuinely spreading apostasy, you have to deal with the absurd proposition that you have to be in communion with and reverent to a man who is destroying the Church or God will send you to hell. Does that even make sense? Am I saying he’s a heretic? Nope. But I can genuinely see how the evidence can be interpreted that way. I don’t think God desires you to close your eyes and look away from such a crucial matter. Are you to judge him? I wouldn’t. But plenty of people with real authority have written dubias and asked the hierarchy to clarify matters—to no avail? Are we to believe they are all schismatic to think he might be a heretic? You say that you’ve already decided she’s false and deplored that people keep bringing her up because of fulfilled prophecies. That is something someone who is rational is expected to do, revise prior judgements based on evidence. Intellectual humility demands that you accept that maybe your judgements are wrong. Unless it is dogma that she is a false prophet you must be open to the idea that maybe you’re wrong in your judgement in the past.
