Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

The point I was trying to make (badly) is that the existence of another planet is unlikely to matter to God's plan for the Church. We will survive if that's what God wants and all the bunkers in the world won't save the elite if God decides their time is up. They could well have bunkers to protect or preserve whatever or whomever they consider worth the effort should there be, for example, a nuclear war. That's what the elite or the establishment have always done. Then again, maybe Area 51 is just an old storage facility.

The Vatican having an observatory makes sense to me, particularly if we are headed for some kind of one world government some time in the future. Better for the Vatican to know what they know than to depend on them to tell the truth about planetary influences on our environment, weather or whatever.

 

The Vatican has had an observatory for over a thousand years. It was necessary to keep track of the movements in the sky in order to predict the date of Easter (First Sunday after the first full moon in Spring. Except, when is Spring?) Ergo the need for an observatory. It was the Vatican Observatory which kept the data that showed that the Julian calendar was off, leading to the creation of the Gregorian calendar we use today. It's been updated over the centuries with the latest and greatest scientific equipment of the day for this reason. It's now located outside of Rome due to light pollution.

(It's also important to remember that until the acceptance of the Copernican-Keplerian systems [placing the sun at the center of the solar system], planetary movements could not be anticipated. This meant that astrology was both an art and a science. Since the events on the earth were mirrored in the skies above, being able to properly interpret celestial events was essential to sound governance. A number of popes were considered experts in astrology. Once the heliocentric system was accepted and the movements of the planets could be accurately predicted, though, astrology moved from science to divination.)

 

When "aliens" are mentioned in connection to Nibiru it goes back to the Annunaki of Genesis (as well as the Sumarian tradition/history and creation of giants, etc.) which were the fallen angels who came to mate with the women of God's human creation.

 

More on the discussed email and other emails of or to Podesta re: Nibiru and its repercussions. Only a portion of the one:

All this may seem preposterous, but my extended research over the last dozen-plus years into pre-history, abandoned cities archeology, mythology, past geological catastrophes, such as many underwater civilization remnants, provide ample evidence for past pole shifts. Psychic messengers, Mother Mary apparition messages, UFO/alien communications, English crop circle designs, all are providing warnings specifically time-wise to a pole shift about this current period, based on a frequency pattern of every 3600+ years due to a periodic Nibiru flyby. No direct hit with Earth is anticipated.

http://bendedreality.com/nibiru-safe-zones-wikileaks-john-podesta-email-leaks-part-2/

 

Very interesting Muzhik. Doesn't the Vatican also have a an observatory or at least a partnership in an observatory in the US or some other country outside Italy? Clearly that isn't for reasons of divination, so they are keeping up to date and involved in the scientific aspects of studying the sky.

 

This is the Vatican's Observatory website...a whole lot more going on there than we are aware of.

http://www.vovatt.org/

 

I wouldn't be surprised. The Jesuits are in charge.

 

Vatican's man says Aliens exist & describes them.



and perhaps why the ongoing discussion of good aliens vs evil aliens!

Pope Pius XII US President Eisenhower Bishop McIntyre Alien Contact in 1954 Warning of upcoming arrival of a Planet

http://earthchanges.ning.com/profil...us-president-eisenhower-bishop-mcintyre-alien

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...et-an-ALIEN-Amazing-Confession-of-Ex-Military

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1106/jesuitfootage2.html

 

Do you mean astronomy?

 

No, no... I mean astrology. Astronomy as a separate discipline was subservient to astrology. Astronomers noted the movements of the stars and planets; astrologers interpreted those motions in light of events occurring on the earth. Again, at the time NOT divination. Once the heliocentric view took hold, then the whole astrology field moved from "events on Earth affect and are reflected in events in the sky" to "events in the sky control events on the Earth, down to the lives of individual people." Before, the sudden, unexpected, and unexplained retrograde motion of a planet meant something unexpected was happening to the nation/king (at the time, one and the same) associated with that planet. Now, it's just something that happens.

 

They have joint projects going on with Arizona State University, IIRC, at the telescopes located there. The current Director of the Vatican Observatory, Brother (Dr.) Guy J. Consolmagno, SJ, has an excellent book out, called "Brother Astronomer: Adventures of a Vatican Scientist." He also has authored or co-authored a number of other books, including one titled, "Would You Baptize an Extraterrestrial?: . . . and Other Questions from the Astronomers' In-box at the Vatican Observatory"

 

I'm not convinced by anything in those links, and I can't make head or tail of what the priest is saying. Without seeing the entire discussion, it's impossible to fully understand the context of the youtube clip because that priest was also an exorcist and was possibly also answering questions about demonic possession.

The Eisenhower woman seems to be into the New Age and possibly the occult.

The stuff about Pope Pius X11 having made a treaty with aliens is just ridiculous. It's more likely that the Vatican and the US were in discussions about Communism.

What I do find very interesting is the people (all Jesuits) who succeeded that priest as head of the Vatican Observatory.

Fr. George Coyne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Coyne is an American Jesuit very opposed to creationism and a theory called Intelligent Design which is promoted by some conservative multi-faith, but mostly Protestant, organisation in the US. Pope Benedict is said to have removed Fr. Coyne after he publicly criticised Cardinal Schonborn for apparently promoting Intelligent Design. (Both Fr. Coyne and his replacement denied that). Fr. Coyne maintained that the American organisation had pressured Cardinal Schonborn into making the statement. When Cardinal Schonborn later wrote some article clarifying what he had said earlier, Fr. Coyne was happy with the clarification and said that he wouldn't have criticised the Cardinal had his earlier statement been so clear. He was director from 1978 until 2006. Here's an interesting interview with Fr. Coyne where he discusses science and religion: http://www.meta-library.net/transcript/coyne-frame.html


Fr. José Gabriel Funes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Gabriel_Funes replaced Fr. Coyne. Fr. Funes is from Cordoba in Argentina (the place of Pope Francis's "exile" when he fell out of favour with his Jesuit superiors). Fr. Funes has said that ruling out extra-terrestrials would be to limit God's creative freedom, and believes that they could even be free from original sin. Pope Francis replaced him in 2015 with......

Brother Guy J. Consolmagno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Consolmagno an American who, according to one source, is a friend of Fr. Coyne. Br. Consolmagno has plenty of scientific experience and qualifications but doesn't seem to have any particular religious qualification other than his two years formation to become a Jesuit Brother. I'm not sure whether he is also studying to be a priest. This year, he was selected by his community to represent them at the election of the new leader of the Jesuit order which forbids any kind of canvassing. The Vatican Observatory Foundation's blog has a post from him about the selection procedure. You could probably subscribe to that blog and ask them about Planet X, the Brown Dwarf Star and Niburu. http://www.vofoundation.org/blog/habemus-papam-neram/

According to Wikipedia Br. Consolmagno believes in the need for science and religion to work alongside one another rather than as competing ideologies. In 2006, he said, "Religion needs science to keep it away from superstition and keep it close to reality, to protect it from creationism, which at the end of the day is a kind of paganism – it's turning God into a nature god."

I found this interview he did with the Guardian where he talks about the job: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2006/may/09/highereducationprofile.academicexperts

 

Sorry to burst the bubble in this thread but this is supposed to be what the 'thing' is meant to look like in the sky from Friday past. Not a word, squeak or sign of any sighting from anyone or anywhere. An object that big in the sky is going to be seen over a vast area of earth and people are going to post about it.

Unless of course the 'thing' is invisible.

Looks like Antonio Yague's hypothesis is incorrect.

 

Once again, thank you.

 

OK THIS EMAIL IS from a conspiracy theory person TO Padesta. NOT Padesta.. the guy who runs this channel is way off on so many things. All he does is run crazy ideas to get views to make money on adds. He called for earth to be hit by many asteroids on Sept 23-28th. He is nothing but a click bait guy.

He also says things like the sun we see is not real, the government has placed a false sun in the sky that we see now because they are trying to hide this.

 

The fact is though that contained within a noted investigation of people in the news and power in order to attempt to place a very unsavory person in control of things of the country just happens itself to mention that actual "forbidden" name, Nibiru, to the world and all that goes along with the various knowledgeables' secrets kept from the public. And this man, Podesta, who is calling the shots for Hillary is knowledgable of and interested in what otherwise the responsible agencies in charge are attempting to keep from the public.

 

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Hi Garabandal,

I do not know if the above links have any truth in them but perhaps there is something really happening. I am not supporting or denouncing them, simply putting them up here for our folks to look at for themselves.

Peace,
Ed

 

Ed, The second video that you posted is the most interesting video I have seen so far. Thank you.

 

This is a comment reply Antonio posted yesterday -October 29:

Antonio Yague PRO1 day ago

He analizado todo ese website desde agosto. cosmicartifactresearch.com/ Se trata de un fotógrafo del firmamento con un buen equipo que no sabe de posiciones astronómicas, ni de astros. Su equipo ha ido mejorando en estos dos meses y es más de lo que un aficionado medio puede tener. En este tiempo encuentra astros sorprendentes en dos lugares diferentes del cielo casi opuestos. Ultimamente sus actualizaciones se centran en uno de ellos que está cerca del lugar donde se pone el Sol. Tengo que decir que ese astro se ajusta casi exactamente a lo que esperaba en cuanto a trayectoria y posición del astro del Aviso. Ahora está entre Venus y el Sol. Eso es lo que he dicho en mis últimos artículos y ultimo video de este canal. Por tanto es un serio candidato a una observación definitiva. Para confirmarlo, debemos hacer observaciones nosotros y comprobar que también lo vemos. Por tanto, a trabajar en los atardeceres / anocheceres de los próximos días y quizás deberíamos poner un lugar donde cualquiera pueda poner alli sus fotos. También hay que seguir en los canales de Youtube habituales si hay otras referencias que vean el astro al atardecer en los últimos días.​

Translation:
I've been analyzing the whole of this website since August http://www.cosmicartifactresearch.com/
This is made by a sky photographer with good equipment who does not know about astronomical positions nor celestial bodies. His equipment has been enhanced over the last two months and is better than what an average amateur would have. He has tapped now into surprising celestial bodies in two separate places of the sky -almost opposite places. Recently his updates are focused on one of them located near the sunset spot.
I have to say (this is Antonio speaking of himself) that this body fits almost exactly what I was expecting with regard to trajectory and location of the aster of the Warning. It is now between Venus and the Sun. This is what I said in my recent articles and the last video of this channel. Thus it is a serious candidate for definitive observation (mean it's worth to follow up on it as precisely as possible).
To confirm this (that this is the expected Warning planet) we must be able to observe it ourselves and prove that we too can see it. Thus we must work at sunset/night fall time in the coming days, and maybe we should set a place where everyone could upload their pictures (findings). We must also follow up on habitual YouTube channels and watch out for other viewings at sunset in recent days.

This is the specific article that Antonio believes is a possible candidate:
http://www.cosmicartifactresearch.com/red-sunset-star-vs-venus/ There is video footage, pictures, and this "map"

 

You are beyond awesome! Thank you!