Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

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  1. Dolours

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    Thanks Carol. I need to have a re-run through Fr. Martin's interviews because it all gets jumbled in my head.
     
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  2. Praetorian

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    Just my thoughts on the subject. I think Fr. Martin believed in Garabandal because, as he said on several occasions, the message of Garabandal is essentially the Third Secret of Fatima in brief form.

    What parts exactly were the same he didn't specify.

    Interestingly he did not say this about the messages to Sister Sasagawa in Akita Japan, which personally I would have guessed would have been closer to the Third Secret.
     
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    The best Fr. Martin interviews from a Catholic perspective, in my opinion, are with Canadian radio broadcaster, Bernard Janzen.

    • Janzen, Bernard, Catholicism Overturned: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1990
    • Janzen, Bernard, The External War: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1991
    • Janzen, Bernard, The Kingdom of Darkness: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1992
    • Janzen, Bernard, Peter in Chains: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1993
    • Janzen, Bernard, The Shoes of the Fishermen: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1994
    • Janzen, Bernard, The Deserted Vineyard: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1995
    • Janzen, Bernard, Crossing The Desert: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1996
    • Janzen, Bernard, The Tempter's Hour: Interview with Malachi Martin, Toronto, Triumph Communications, 1997

    He's done many more with other secular radio broadcasters, and a couple of TV shows with William F. Buckley on Firing Line.
     
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  4. Dolours

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    Plenty of material there. Thank you. I take it they're on YouTube. Will search them out over the weekend. Looks like a busy weekend between them, Clinton's emails and Wikileaks.
     
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    Yes, these are on YouTube. They're about an hour to 1.5 hours in length.
     
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  6. Certain Fr. Gobbi messages have been given to certain MMP cenacles to "read as if happening now". They didn't mean much at the time they were actually revealed and so people thought not to worry.....it will be sometime in the future since it wasn't the time then for such happenings revealed.

    Well, one of those messages of the very many messages given, asked to read as if happening now is #166, of Dec. 24, 1978 "The Holy Night".
    His Second Coming

    It is very revealing for the timing perhaps of this specified "second coming.....will be like the first. As was his birth on this night, so also will be the return of Jesus in glory, before his final coming for the last judgment, the hour of which, however, is still hidden in the secrets of the Father.

    "The world will be completely covered in the darkness of the denial of God, of its obstinate rejection of Him and of rebellion against his Law of love. The coldness of hatred will still cause the roadways of this world to be deserted. Almost no one will be ready to receive Him.

    "The great ones will not even remember Him, the rich will close their doors on Him, while his own will be too busy with seeking and affirming themselves....

    ....."He will come suddenly, and the world will not be ready for his coming. He will come for a judgment for which man will find himself unprepared.

    "Even in this second coming, the Son will come to you through his Mother. As the Word of the Father made use of mil virginal womb to come to you, so also will Jesus make use of my Immaculate Heart to come and reign in your midst.

    ....."This holy night is a sign and a grace for you. I am gathering you together close to his poor manger to fill the vast emptiness which humanity has made for Him..."

    This certainly, as far as the awareness of the public goes, seems more meaningful for these current times than in the '70s and therefore why we are asked to read them now "as if they are now happening". Some of those discerning this time for the interim coming or "second coming BEFORE the final coming" assess it to be when Christ comes in His greatest act of Mercy since the Crucifixion, and fulfilling the Father's Will from the beginning, held within Christ's "death on the cross", so that His wounds will give off the light of His Mercy now accomplished, (vision of St. Faustina) and that same Light is contained in the Immaculate Heart of Mary (Flame of Love devotion also for these times) for such fulfills her own Fiat to the Father. And since this coming New Era is coming through those consecrated to her Immaculate Heart in order to enter into this Era of the Divine Will which can only come to pass AFTER THE WARNING, the Warning is the necessary Coming for the rest to take place and evil to be fully conquered. And this greatest act will be when He comes as such Light (within that same darkness of the world as mentioned in this above Gobbi message as He came the first time)..... at the time of the Warning. Therefore these discerners believe that the Warning will indeed then come as He came before, both through the Mother's preparation for the Coming then and Her preparation for this "Second Coming" in the Warning! So therefore this Interim Coming, "coming as before", on Christmas Eve, is looked to for the Warning to come on another Christmas Eve! An interesting discernment for fitting into our current time and what is being revealed by many these days. If so then Mr. Yague's date for the Miracle would come just barely 3 months after the Warning.....equating as well to Mari Loli's mention of "3 weeks or 3 months" afterwards!

    Just another speculation from another angle based on some of the most important messages given to us for our help in these frightening times for the Faith. The Luz messages are certainly now ratcheting up the most necessary preparation of her children....preparation of the senses and readying ourselves for the purity necessary in order to enter into the Divine Will era!
     
  7. Praetorian

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    Just a note the Fr. Malachi Martin interviews are available from:
    http://www.triumphcommunications.net/booksmmartin.html
    http://www.triumphcommunications.net/mmartin.html

    They are available in book form too, some with additional interview material not available on the audio.
     
  8. Woman Clothed WithThe Sun

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    Ok, yes, I'm aware of this possibility of not having access to Garabandal from the north. I just thought that it was more of Conchita's own comment out of whatever she received than a specific word from Heaven.

    Who knows, it might be from the Pole shift as Antonio thinks, or it might be from a devastating earthquake ...

    In any case I hope and pray that I will be able to be in Garabandal for the Miracle and try to keep myself in "walking" shape just in case I will need to go there even by foot from the south through the mountains.
     
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    I wonder if this is what you have been discussing?

     
  10. NOW NIBIRU CONTAINED IN WIKILEAKS.....FROM JOHN PODESTA?

    This mentions some people who have been "watching" things for quite some. Podesta alludes to this system being the real cause of "climate change" and says to "tell Hillary she's wrong about climate change"!!



    And....like that message from back in 2008 from OLOE...."the Vatican and your govts know about this alignment of the planets"!
     
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  11. RE: my comment above..... speaks to even Reagan knowing about this system. I've read elsewhere that that could be the reason for his "star wars program" in order to develop ways to attack such incoming space junk from this system.
     
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    We suspected this, correct? I saw this show on how there have been alien ship sightings all along the 37th parallel in the US for years and I believe several around Area 51, I also believe that DC is at around 38th parallel. I wonder if they have been working on a bunker there for years and people see the late night flights of personnel bringing supplies and such. If they know they must have a plan for themselves.

    I found a related article: http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-37th-parallel-ufo-highway.html
     
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    You mean from 12/24/16 to 4/13/17? Around 3.5 months? I just want to see if I am following you?
     
  14. Dolours

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    I saw nothing in the Podesta emails to show that Governments were discussing the likelihood of another planet that would be a threat to earth. Podesta had a long standing interest in UFO's and received emails from others who share his interest. The emails were mostly from people trying to use his influence but there was nothing to show that he actually did a whole lot to help them. One of them was a retired astronaut who I think has since died. He had connections with a Catholic woman. From what I could see, that lady was either a sandwich short of a picnic or had turned her interest in extra terrestrial intelligence (or something along those lines) into a business, perhaps a mix of both. Anyway, there's really nothing startling about the Podesta emails on that topic. Podesta himself said that his one regret was his failure to get the Obama administration to reveal whatever he thought was being hidden in Area 51 (not sure of the correct name). It's just as likely that there was nothing to be revealed and the admission of failure was a better face saver for Podesta than an admission that he had been wrong all along.

    What I don't get with this linking of a mystery planet with a chastisement from God is the notion that God couldn't just zap us all without the need to resort to using some new planet that has been out there all along but we didn't know about it.
     
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  15. Re: bunkers
    There was a government bunker built under the Greenbrier Hotel in White Sulphur Springs, WV in 1958 and it was kept hidden for about 30 years. I guess it was mainly during the Cold War. Now it is open to guests for a tour.....There was a huge flood there just recently, plus I think it might be in an earthquake zone.
    As far as possible locations for bunkers....hmmm, there is always Camp David near Thurmont, MD in the Catoctin Mountains. ("Say to the mountains:fall on us")
    It is near Fort Detrick. Fort Detrick has labs that house disease specimens. It is a biological defense facility. ????? so they say
    Plus West Virginia and Western Maryland are possible locations, plus even southern Pennsylvania. If there is enough warning, helicopters could be used to get to the bunkers.

    There is also a huge radio telescope facility in the West Virginia hills, no cell phone usage for miles. My understanding is that it is trying to track signals from outer space. I have been near there. It is in Green Bank, WV, near Cass. There is a quiet zone there. The Greenbrier is located slightly south of there.
    Green Bank telescope
    A lot of this info that is appearing about this issue is very New Age, and not biblical at all. However, if something does appear, then it is Biblical. For sure
     
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    I look at this way, whatever we know they know and then some, it doesn't mean that there is in fact a Nibiru but they know that people are talking about it. And I absolutely understand why bunkers have been built. But I do wonder about Area 51 and these supposed alien ship sightings and feel that they could quite possibly be related to some emergency plan.

    Unfortunately, we have no idea what the details of God's plans are.
     
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  17. We have no need to know the details of His plans, for He is God, and we are the sheep of His pasture.
    :D
    Plus He has assured us that we will know what to do, and we have the Blessed Mother. In Matthew 25 the Lord gives us an overview. Plus our lamps are lit.
     
  18. I meant to say Matthew 24, and that is where Jesus tells us about these times, but Matthew 25 is good, also.
     
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    When I wrote "Unfortunately", I thought that is not quite what I mean but then again, I would obviously be lying if I said that I wasn't trying to figure out what is going to happen at least with some things.
     
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  20. Yes
     
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