“The month of the rosary will see great things”. Prophecy fulfilled?

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  1. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    Just to add fuel to the fire how about this from CG. If we are in the bowels of the AC, where do you think that might be. The bowel is where you find the poop............. There is an old saying, "Up to your ankles in poop, head first."

    Enjoy or ignore, and maybe give Fr M a rest for a nano second.

    Message of Jesus to Christina, October 29, 2020;

    The world is sinking into the bowels of antichrist. The humanity of the world begins its Calvary, brought about by you - people who refuse to respond to Truth and to live the call of My Mother and Myself throughout the world. I have called and brought about signs which so many people wanted but to no avail. You people, many of you chose to take part in the flesh and the world's fruits. You refused to listen but you were able to mock and lead others to disbelief with you. Now you sink into the bowels of antichrist and you will be held bound in its clutches. You will have no control over your persons or possessions in the world and your suffering will be great.

    Woe unto the people of the Americas: there were none of you who desired to help in My Mother's Houses that were given for your protection. You were too busy living lives of the world and in sin. Many of those who did come, came only to partake of its goods, to steal - with no thought or interest to live My call and that of My Mother.

    (Jesus then referred in stark terms to the wrongdoing against His Mother's House in Ohio....) ...and there were only four people who worked in my Mother's Houses in the Americas who were genuine.

    The world will endure unbearable suffering because of its lack of response.

    People, if only you had listened and responded, it would be so very different.

    He who had an authority over this Mission used his voice and pen to bring its fruitfulness for souls to an end. Woe unto him who is united in the darkness of such evil.

    Those who received the gift of healing for all to see and hear about, gave back unto Me only insult rather than thanksgiving.

    The Houses of Prayer that were called for by My Mother and Myself were deserted by you, people. As you have failed to respond they have been left barren. The fruitfulness has been lost due to your lack of response but has been regained through My Mercy and through the endurance of sufferings you have imparted to My little one and My brother Gerard. You people have cast every kind of calumny unto them and especially unto My poor little one. You people who have done harm and have caused such pain unto her, need to ask for pardon and forgiveness from Me and from her. I am your Lord God.

    Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
     
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  2. WTW

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    Honestly this sounds more like Satan than Christ speaking to me.
     
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  3. Christy1983

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    It does not sound at all like the Jesus who spoke with St. Faustina. Compare His authentic voice speaking of love and mercy--to the last moment--in St. Faustina's diary, to the harsh words allegedly given to Christina Gallagher.

    “The Lord said to me, ‘The loss of each soul plunges Me into mortal sadness. You always console Me when you pray for sinners. The prayer most pleasing to Me is prayer for the conversion of sinners. Know, My daughter, that this prayer is always heard and answered.’” (No. 1397)

    “All grace flows from mercy, and the last hour abounds with mercy for us. Let no one doubt concerning the goodness of God; even if a person’s sins were as dark as night, God’s mercy is stronger than our misery. One thing alone is necessary; that the sinner set ajar the door of his heart, be it ever so little, to let in a ray of God’s merciful grace, and then God will do the rest.” (No. 1507)

    “When once I asked the Lord Jesus how He could tolerate so many sins and crimes and not punish them, the Lord answered me, ‘I have an eternity for punishing [these], and so I am prolonging the time of mercy for the sake of [sinners]. But woe to them if they do not recognize the time of My visitation.’” (No. 1160)

    “Jesus: ‘My child, life on earth is a struggle indeed; a great struggle for my kingdom. But fear not, because you are not alone. I am always supporting you, so lean on Me as you struggle, fearing nothing. Take the vessel of trust and draw from the fountain of life – for yourself, but also for other souls, especially such as are distrustful of My goodness.’” (No. 1488)
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    Our Lady's home of prayer on earth is with her son in the Blessed Eucharist, hidden in all the tabernacles of the world including America, in fact all of Heaven is adoring God there.

    The Holy sacrifice of the Mass is the greatest of all prayers and all those attending the Masses are giving the greatest Glory and Honour to God.

    So I have three questions:
    Is this house of prayer that the alleged Jesus is referring to, is it the Holy sacrifice of the Mass?
    If so is Jesus referring to the Covid lockdown of Churches, in the below quotes?

    And who is Jesus' brother Gerard?

    Woe unto the people of the Americas: there were none of you who desired to help in My Mother's Houses that were given for your protection. You were too busy living lives of the world and in sin. Many of those who did come, came only to partake of its goods, to steal - with no thought or interest to live My call and that of My Mother.

    The Houses of Prayer that were called for by My Mother and Myself were deserted by you, people. As you have failed to respond they have been left barren. The fruitfulness has been lost due to your lack of response but has been regained through My Mercy and through the endurance of sufferings you have imparted to My little one and My brother Gerard.

    You people have cast every kind of calumny unto them and especially unto My poor little one. You people who have done harm and have caused such pain unto her, need to ask for pardon and forgiveness from Me and from her. I am your Lord God.
     
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  5. maryn

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    How can anyone possibly believe that Christina's messages have a supernatural origin? I stopped reading those years ago when the supposed words of Our Lady seemed soooo shrill in defence of Christina herself. Contrast this message to the one above in the writings of St Faustina.
    Enough said
     
  6. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    In response to your questions; I will try to answer as best I can.

    I understand there are houses of prayer in a few places/countries, where people can come together for devotions and talks. I am not an expert but would say these houses of prayer are like retreat centres.
    The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass can be celebrated at one of these centres the same as it can be celebrated at a retreat centre.
    I do not believe this alleged message refers to Covid lockdown of Churches.

    Jesus' brother Gerard is referring to Father Gerard McGinnity, a Priest in good standing as far as I know who is the Spiritual director of CG. This Priest has a long history. He was originally in Maynooth Seminary, County Meath, Ireland until the gay mafia took over. I only heard years later why he left, and it appears Fr. Gerard McGinnity was not prepared to accept homosexual seminarians; but those in charge wanted them and Fr. McGinnity resigned.

    The quoted paragraphs you ask about seem to refer to a couple of houses of prayer that they tried to establish in USA. I believe there was one in New York, I can't remember where else. It seems from the published alleged message they could not get enough people interested to get the centre up and running. I think there is a house of prayer in Texas, but not certain. I have not made any donations for these projects.

    I don't of course know if these alleged messages are the real deal. But I have been amazed over the years how often things unfold that were spoken of in alleged messages from CG.

    I don't spend my time closely following CG, nor would I cast aspersions on the alleged messages, or the messenger or her Spiritual Director. But I do acknowledge to having received a grace to find Holy Rosary easy to meditate, and desire to honour Blessed Mother from there.

    Hope this helps. God bless !
     
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  7. josephite

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    I can see that you have a special place in your heart for these messages and if they have lead you to a fuller knowledge of truth that is commendable.

    However, I take exception with the words

    Woe unto the people of the Americas: there were none of you who desired to help in My Mother's Houses!

    But how many good American Catholics have been at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, daily! over many months since this word was given!

    Does this count for naught?
     
  8. Christy1983

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    There is a whole, long thread on Christine Gallagher. Perhaps the discussion should move there. First, however, Gallagher's "House of Prayer" is like a chain or franchise. They are in Ireland and the US. I don't know if Mass is ever celebrated at the US "houses." Gallagher's bishop does not support her. She's also been criticized for alleged misuse of funds raised for her "ministry."

    Statement Regarding the Work of Mrs. Christina Gallagher at the House of Prayer at Achill
    Most Rev. Michael Neary
    Archbishop of Tuam

    Statement of Archbishop Neary, February 29th, 2008

    The Tuam Diocesan Office has recently received a considerable number of media enquiries regarding this matter. In 1996 I established a diocesan commission of enquiry to investigate certain claims regarding and emanating from this work. In 1997, acting on foot of a report from the commission, I issued a lengthy public statement to the effect, in essence, that no evidence of supernatural phenomena had been observed but that the persons involved gave every evidence of good faith. Arising from that, I proposed a basic canonical structure that would gradually integrate the work of the House into the life of Achill Parish and the Archdiocese. While this was then attempted by the Archdiocese, I became increasingly perturbed by an apparent absence of enthusiasm on the parts of Mrs Gallagher and her associates. The relationship deteriorated to the extent that Mrs. Gallagher, in July, 1998, closed the ‘House of Prayer’ at Achill, expressing to the media at the time a sense of having been harshly treated by the Archdiocese. In order to clarify the issue for the faithful I issued another statement, regretting the development and expressing grave misgivings as to the wisdom with which Mrs Gallagher had been advised and had acted in the matter.

    Diocesan efforts to integrate this work ended in July, 1998 when it was closed by Mrs. Gallagher. Celebration of the sacraments and reservation of the Blessed Sacrament at the ‘House of Prayer’ are not permitted. Any work carried on since then has been entirely of a private nature and has no Church approval whatever. Neither, for reasons given above, does such work enjoy the confidence of the Diocesan authorities. Nothing has been brought to my attention to indicate that I should change from this position in the future. Over the years since then, the Tuam Diocesan Office has clearly and consistently replied to enquiries in respect of this work, which Mrs. Gallagher recommenced.

    I respect the faith and devotion of many people who have been impressed by this work in the past, some of whom have expressed their sadness at my stance. Finally, I wish tor emind all Church members that they should not hesitate to enquire, as a matter of course, at local diocesan offices regarding the standing of any work describing itself as Catholic, should they be in doubt.

    In summary the ‘House of Prayer’ has no Church approval and the work does not enjoy the confidence of the diocesan authorities.

    Copies of my public statements are available on www.tuamarchdiocese.org/news.

    Signed _______________

    + Michael Neary
    Archbishop of Tuam
    29th of February, 2008
     
  9. MMM

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    I don't even think Fr. Michel's messages are necessarily from God, or if they are they, are intermixed with much of his own thoughts which he confuses as from God. But, as we all know time will prove them true or false. The beauty of specific prophecies is they set themselves up perfectly for all to see if they transpire. Luz De Maria messages don't speak to me at all and I never read any of them anymore. (I guess I could spend time reading and trying to prove them false but I'm certain God isn't calling me to waste precious time on such things)

    Yes, MM and Daniel are dragging thousands of people into a hole by telling them to pray the rosary, go to confession, prepare your soul for hard times......people love to latch onto one line or one thought process (or even one messenger) since they are only looking for negative in everything MM and Daniel (or others in general) say and do. They read and watch with cold hearts looking for the worse they can find. These same people never seem to mention all the good, correct and holy advise that is tied into every single blog or video they post. Why is that? Well, people love to be right and love to say "told ya!!" when they are proven right. Everyone has some of this in them, some seemingly so much so they loose the big picture. Some don't even think MM and Daniel are good Catholics or that we are all fighting a common enemy. They are the enemy in some warped way.

    They have wrote and stated so many times that they are discerning these messages in real time as they happen. This means that some 100% will be false. Giving messages the benefit of the doubt is not the same as approving them. They are doing what the bible says to do about prophecy.

    WTW, please back this line up with specific proof......Numerous times on this forum I have basically been told that since I don’t believe in Father Michel’s messages I will be left outside of the ark to suffer and I will deserve it.

    God Bless.
     
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  10. WTW

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    If you go through the countdown thread you can see what I have said and what’s been said to me. The thread also has my opinions on the other points you’ve brought up here. No need to rehash it all.

    “Wait and see” is over. No extraordinary event in October and his more specific prophecy about an October virus that Christy posted did not come true either. At what point should the call be made here?
     
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  11. Christy1983

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    Mark Mallett and Daniel O'Connor are doing more than telling people to say the rosary, etc. They are telling people Fr. Rodrigue's bishops public statements can be ignored as "just their opinion," when in fact these formal proclamations are to be accorded respect and obedience by Catholics. Two Catholic writers, Jimmy Akin and Kevin Symonds, posted detailed critiques of this particular claim, citing canon law and the Vatican's own guidelines on private revelation to support the legality of the bishops' negative judgments. Neither Mallett nor O'Connor has addressed these specific and detailed critiques.

    Mallett and O'Connor, in their recent video, said will no longer answer critics. It has been months since they posted counter-arguments to public letters published by Prof. Mark Miravalle and Fr. Joseph Iannuzzi, two theologians and scholars of far greater learning and experience. To my mind and others, the Mallett-O'Connor counterarguments were not convincing or detailed. Since then, they refuse to engage in any exchanges with educated critics/peers, or, indeed, with ordinary laypeople. They are far from transparent.

    All the good, correct and holy advice... All the Countdown authors offer their advice freely, publicly, and receive benefits in return (attention, book sales, website clicks). Mark Mallett, in particular, links his "good, correct and holy advice" directly with sales of unproven natural remedies to prevent and treat disease. What's more, he directly ties his family's business to his alleged prophetic ministry, promoting various "seers" who make claims for essential oil treatments. The company from which the Malletts obtain and sell their products has been widely criticized for unethical business practices and--worse--New Age and occult ties. This has been documented.

    So there are many reasons for good Catholics to question Mark Mallett's and Daniel O'Connor's discernment. Assuming everyone who does is motivated by malice is highly uncharitable.
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    Edited to add: Just one of Fr. Rodrigue's videos garnered more than one million views since April. So the idea the Countdown authors were "dragging thousands of people into a hole" perhaps understates the impact they had on fellow Catholics. They caused anguish and panic among many, according to Bishop Lemay.
     
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