Life on Other Worlds?

I have no issue with the idea that God created life on other planets and that man's story is tied to all of this, but it's rare for me to think about this when I look out into space - at least on the very rare occasions where I actually see space from my light-infested rural area ;-) And since men's creations on earth prevent me from seeing what's out there, I tend to contemplate God and the things of Heaven first, then pray for the very lost souls here below, the ones who don't want me to see God's creation! I often wonder how to read the stars and then I tell God that I can only see a small part anyway, the very brightest stars but mostly it's the many projects of men that interfere with what I want to look at (eg an outrageous number of satellites, chemtrails especially at night, military activity when all goes dark & quiet... and other things too strange to mention). If it weren't for the few shooting stars He sends my way occasionally, I would think that the skies belong to men!

If there is life out there close by, my advice to them would be: Hide and don't let men find you!

 

if you refer to the possibility of NASA forging that there is some form of life on Mars; this in no way affects the possibility of there being (non-intelligent) life forms in inaccessible galaxies of the universe; whatever man does on earth; it in no way affects what God may have done in the vastness of the universe

 

The chances of life having developed elsewhere than on Earth is, due to its mind-boggling complexity, extremely unlikely. Indeed, the chances of life having randomly developed here on Earth are of such long odds that it would be, to all intents and purposes, impossible. The existence of life, in truth, presupposes its having been created. God created life on Earth. We don't know but He created it elsewhere, also. However, my hunch now is that all these UFO's are encounters with demons, which would explain their elusiveness.

Musings about the size and of the universe in this context make little sense in the context of Eternity and Infinity. Just because the Universe is very big has no implication whether or not we're alone. God has the luxury of making the Universe as big as He likes. In fact, the Universe just happens to be the exact right size to develop all the constituents required for the development of life on Earth. Or so the cosmologists tell us.

 

And it would explain why the people of the world seem hell-bent on knowing more about them.

 

I added another bit while you were quoting me! Agreed, the demonic always incites curiosity.

 

on this point I mainly agree about regard to the" more spiritually evolved brothers" and the" astronaut gods" theory; although there may be prototypes of secret weapons from Usa, Russian and other countries, as far as non-intelligent life in other galaxies is concerned, I do not discard the thesis and consider something analogous to the existence of dinosaurs on earth; it does not interfere at all in the concept of Christian redemption, since they would be beings who do not know good and evil.

 

C.S. Lewis covered the subject in his Perelandra trilogy. He wrote of actually intelligent alien beings who were unfallen.

 

And it is my belief that so called "greys" are demons. Their appearance is not so different from reported encounters with incubi and succibi in medieval times. And....they don't stick around when the Name above all other Names is invoked.

 

I think the universe is teeming with life.
Does it matter or affect the belief in our God?
No.

 

Many of the atheists think life is very prolific within the universe, all having evolved by chance, 'just like that' as comedian Tommy Cooper used to say. The Universe might well be teeming with life, but it would only be possible, if created by God. I think it's no harm to contradict the atheists in order to underline the mathematical impossibility of their opinions, by pointing out to them the incredible unlikelihood of life even on one planet in the Universe. Let them explain how we came about first before they populate the rest of the cosmos.

The Universe seems to be built specifically to produce carbon-based life. There are many cosmological constants, fixed numbers that govern physical and chemical interactions which, if quantitatively different from what they are by even the infinitesimally smallest amount, would ensure the conditions for life could not even begin to develop within the Universe. Such realities are beginning to tell with the atheists. In an effort to explain away these 'problems', they come up with ideas like the multiverse, an uber-universe containing an infinite number of varying universes which would imply that our universe would necessarily have to exist. Of course there is not the slightest evidence for such a multiverse, far less than there is for the existence of God, and it also presents a difficult philosophical conundrum because, as Father Stanley Jaki pointed out, the discovery of another universe outside our own would imply that it therefore would become part of our universe, thus negating the multiverse concept itself. There would also be the philosophical question of whether the existence of such an uber-universe would itself be a necessary or contingent one. It's encouraging to see reality drive atheist scientists to such increasingly absurd lengths in order to avoid admitting the only practical answer. What is happening with cosmology is also the case with the sciences of evolution and quantum physics, as new discoveries undermine the atheistic certainties and pose questions unamenable to science. Top all this off with Goedal's Uncertainty Theorem and atheistic certainty is in a right fever of complete uncertainty. The problem is to get this information out to the public, as the scientific establishment is in complete public denial and continues on as if nothing has changed in the last century or so. Unfortunately, there is no great scientist, such as Albert Einstein, with the fame and authority, not to mention the will, to stand up and call out the scientific establishment for its untenable positions.

 

There is good and bad in all things. Even the angels have warred. So there is good and bad in aliens I'm sure. Personally I think Nancy Pelosi is pretty demonic. Perhaps she is an evil face changing alien.

I think one of man's great misfortunes is that of possessing such a great ego combined with a lack of consciousness. Consciousness is knowing, and knowing is a desire of truths. It's because of this ego that we once thought the sun circled the earth. Man sees himself as the center of all things and judges nearly everything from a selfish perspective.

But aliens. I have seen them repeatedly in my youth before I knew what they were. The first I remember was around Kindergarten/First Grade. It seemed like dreams and not dreams and it used to scare the crap out of me. I dreaded going to sleep. Eventually we moved to another part of town and where we moved to they showed up again. Even one day, in the middle of the day, a very large triangle (no wings) hovered above me without making a sound. It was directly above me, centered.

But mans ego. What if the Universe teemed with life? What if we were not God's greatest creation. The sacrilege of me saying that! The ego dies a hard death.

God loves humility. God controls all things. I tend to think that if God saw a space faring civilization that could travel in between the stars be cruel he would perhaps visit destruction upon them. But if he saw a person take in an unwanted pet and feed it and show it love then God would be very happy. That makes me very happy.

Been a while but if they come back around my way I'll let you guys know pretty quick.

 

Ariel Phenomenon





There used to be footage out there of the children's interviews but I cannot find it now. The aliens were communicating to them without talking. What were they communicating? That a great worldwide disaster was coming.

 

A movie was made about Travis Walton called "Fire in the Sky". Of course it was "dramatized" by Hollywood. In reality the aliens were not threatening. He was though. Nonetheless they healed him up and took him back and dropped him off.

 

I loved the Perelandra Trilogy. But it was only a Science Fiction novel, not an exposition of his belief in Alien Life, anymore than his Narnia Novels was an exposition of his belief in the Little People. If he had believed in Alien life forms he would have stated so in a formal context. I don't believe he ever did.. Just as JR Tolkein , when he wrote his , 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy was not postulating his belief in elves.

 

It may well be that the Universe is teaming with life, who knows? But unless I meet one outside a Bar and drinking time and really check it out, I will still be a Doubting Thomas.

I am afraid there is as much proof of Aliens as there is of the Little People. So until there is more.

Actually I love Science Fiction so hope there is.

The difficulty for Catholics is that too much speculation on the subject will lead to Theological conundrums too difficult for us to handle.

We can hardly even handle the things we do know for a fact.

 

I know that as Hamlet says " there are more things between heaven and earth...than are dreamt of in your philosophy" but I am keeping it simple. We have been warned in scripture and in approved apparitions of a great deception. I think we are being groomed for it quite honestly. And I think it will involve so called aliens who are really crafty intelligent fallen angels. And sadly much of humanity may fall for it unless special graces are given. I believe that is why Our Lady continually urges us to be consecrated to her and to hide in her Immaculate Heart.

 

I would guess that at the point were Governments start slapping Taxes on poor incoming Alien Spaceships we can be pretty certain.

..till then...

Be careful we don't go running round and round in circles without end on this stuff. Like a dog biting its own tail.

I don't see the point. None of this speculation brings us any closer to God.