The Miracle of the Illumination of All Consciences

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  1. Fatima

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    The Catholic prophetic consensus makes clear that after the Warning comes the counterfeit lies from the Antichrist on what will have just took place. He will be able to convince most that it was not from God and he will have a 'rational' argument for what happened using science/physics etc... Everyone will have been given sufficient understanding of truth and lie. Because of this there will be no need for other denominations or religions, as all will know the truths found only in the Catholic faith Jesus founded upon Peter and the apostles.

    Far from putting and end to abortion and sin, it will compound evil with the deceit of the A.C. The illumination of conscience will simply be the separating of the sheep from the goats and it will be a final rejection of truth who is God. The Miracle of Garabandal will be reaffirmation to the faithful remnant that God and the Blessed Mother will be there through it all. The climax to the 3.5 year reign of the AC with be the three days of darkness followed by the era of peace where God's Will shall be done on earth as it is in heaven.
     
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  2. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Jesus I trust in you!"

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    When the illumination occurs will people who are persecuting and criticising the Church be shown that what they are doing is wrong? Because there are many who are persecuting us and the Church at the moment and think they are doing good...
     
  3. Carol55

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    I think that most of the members of MOG have kept to the facts in relation to the current papacy. That is what we need to do, if we don't speak the truth as best that we can we will loose credibility and possibly cause more harm then good.
    When I watch some of the videos I see posted here or on the internet, I wonder if the people in the videos would state the same things the exact same way if Jesus or the Blessed Mother was visibly present with them at the time. I honestly wish I went through my life thinking that all the while, would I do what I am doing if they were here? Would I say what I am saying? I have my own sins but I do want to speak up when I think people are doing more harm then good but I also want to discuss certain things that are going on with others and even question some of the things that the pope is doing but I try my best not to make assumptions.
     
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  4. Sanctus

    Sanctus "Jesus I trust in you!"

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    Hi Carol, I was referring more to the liberals, media etc. who are enemies of our Church rather than those who criticise Pope Francis. Secular enemies of the Church who think they are doing good by trying to undermine us. It will be interesting to know what will be revealed to them in the Illumination.
     
  5. SteveD

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    We may have had this conversation before but I would disagree that there is a consensus as you state. The finest work I have read on prophecy that relates to our age is called 'Trial, Triumph and Tribulation' a very well-researched and comprehensive work whose author concludes that we are not in the age of the Anti-Christ but are about to experience a European invasion by Russia in which they will be unexpectedly defeated by the direct intervention of God which will be recognised by all and will result in mass conversions and which will be followed by the promised 'era of peace'. The era of peace will end after a period of gradual loss of faith and the arrival of the Anti-Christ. The writer quotes literally hundreds of prophecies and ties them together to reach this conclusion which is consistent with Our Lady's warnings about Russia at Fatima and elsewhere. I recommend this book to anyone, it is a fascinating work whether you accept the writer's conclusions or not.
     
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    Trial, Tribulation and Triumph by Desmond Birch is a must have book for anyone serious about understanding what is going on right now. Indeed the prophetic consensus from approved apparitions and the writings of the Saints, etc. is that we are most likely headed into a period of Chastisement that will be followed by a period of peace and then comes the antichrist. There are a plethora of prophecies on this from many Saints.

    My understanding is that the only way this conditional Chastisement period before the antichrist could have been avoided entirely would have been if the world responded enough to the requests made by Our Lady at Fatima. These included the consecration of Russia, the faithful doing the First Five Saturdays, performing penances and mankind generally repenting and turning back to God. I think it is clear this did not happen.
     
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    I read an older post of yours (I believe it was yours, http://motheofgod.com/threads/trial-tribulation-and-triumph.3142/) about Birch's book, it appears that he along with many other people are looking for a physical invasion by Russia. I am not saying that I know what is going to happen but other people believe that it won't be physical since in Fatima the BVM warned us of Russia spreading it's errors throughout the world. I found this article, which is somewhat interesting, discussing the current papacy and how the errors of Russia may have already infected Rome. http://www.onepeterfive.com/errors-russia-now-infected-rome/ .
    They discuss the regime mentality in which you are not allowed to voice your own opinion when it is not inline with theirs. We all have seen similar stories emerge quite a bit over the past 6 months or so, especially on college campuses. Is it possible that this is what the BVM warned us about? Maybe. I can't figure out how the vision of physical armies fit in with this idea other then maybe those visions were symbolic? Or visions of a Pontiff and cardinals fleeing Rome only to be murdered later? Could it be that they were fleeing the ideas of "Rome" and attempted to oppose them but weren't successful in the end? Of course, I don't have the answers but it is something to think about.
    If we knew when the IofC was going to happen in these sequence of events then maybe it would be easier to determine what Pope Francis' role truly is, in other words, I still wonder if he will be the fleeing pontiff or not. I do realize that there is a prophecy about a pope with the name Joseph who will be murdered but like I stated it is still difficult to say what role Pope Francis has.
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    Here is what the BVM stated in Fatima,
    "Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer and various nations will be annihilated."
     
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  8. Pray4peace

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    Here is a message from John Mariani about the Warning....


    John Lawrence Mariani
    Please Pray for America

    My brothers and sisters in Christ, many of you have probably heard of a supernatural event called illumination of conscience. I myself, have received private revelations on the illumination of conscience and the events leading up to this. God has told me that this event will be supernatural; everyone will be summoned to the judgement seat of God and will see the state of their souls at that moment. The most important thing to do is to repent before the warning. My brothers and sisters, if you feel guilt or shame of something you have done it is the Holy Spirit convicting you to come to God's Mercy. No sin is too great for God to forgive! Prior to the illumination of conscience, the world will enter into a tribulation. The tribulation has already begun to unfold.
    In 2010, the Lord told me, that before the illumination comes, the Government would negotiate with Muslim Extremists, so that the Doctrine can be spread throughout the world. There will be escalation of Christian persecution, the United States would turn away from Israel, and that the President would make a deal with Iran {October 2, 2009}. As a result, Russia would gain great power. In addition to this, Communism will return, economically both the United States and Europe will collapse. Religious freedom will be persecuted, there will be many Martyrs. The Lord also warned me about the rise of North Korea in the year of 2009. He specified His concern about Nuclear War. To prevent this, we must pray the chaplet of Divine Mercy and the Holy Rosary.
    In 2010, the Blessed Mother spoke to me and said there would be confusion in the church before the warning, and that Bishops and Priests would try to change the Church Doctrine. My brothers and sisters, as you can see these events are starting to unfold and days will get darker, but God's light will come to us in the midst of the chaos. So lift your heads up high, because the splendor of God is about to be shown to the world. The Blessed Mother is the mother of us all! She wishes to bring us closer to HerSon. The Father and the Son listen to Her. Jesus said, "Woman behold Your son". "John behold your Mother", the Gospel of John. She will be with us in the time of chaos. My brothers and sisters, whenever you hold the Rosary and recite it, we are protected under Her mantel. I can testify to this because when I recite it, I feel the warmth and love from our Mother in Heaven.
     
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  9. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    Pray4peace, when was the message given to John Mariani about the Warning. I can't see a date other than references to earlier messages.
    I don't remember hearing about this person before. Thank you in advance. :)
     
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  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

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    Sanctus, I honestly believe many people who are living sinful lives will be in deep denial and turn to the so called scientific belief that is was all a mass hallucination. I am concerned all hell will break loose from those firmly in the grip of evil influence. That is why we need to pray for conversion of sinners while we have time.

    Someone stated that the promised Miracle will be to encourage believers. I understand the Miracle will be one last chance for doubters and deniers to convert, before the Chastisement. I hope and pray I am wrong.
     
  11. Fatima

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    Yes, those who are persecuting the Church today, by going against the 10 commandments and Church teaching, will be shown their grave error in thinking doctrine could change. Everyone will know absolute truth and then there will be only one Church and one faith. Those who reject this miniature judgement (which will be most) will follow the Antichrist and persecute the faithful. This will include the lukewarm Catholics and Protestants, while many in the other religions who were not Christian will become Christian.
     
  12. Pray4peace

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    http://johnmariani.homestead.com/homepage.html

    The message that I posted above, which seems more like a summary than an actual message, is from October 27, 2016.

    I'm not necessarily promoting this man or his messages, I just found his information on the Warning interesting. I haven't read his past messages recently, but don't remember finding anything that conflicts with our beliefs. I personally tend to take most prophetic messages with a grain of salt, and just read them out of curiosity...unless they're approved by the church, of course. :D This guy could be the real deal though. I guess time will tell.

    I think that John has his own thread on MOG if you're interested.
     
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    Genesis 6:11 "Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence.

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    It will take something extraordinary to shake the consciences of this generation.
     
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    Read that piece earlier - powerful stuff.

    God has no memory of forgiven sin -- ask the Good Thief!
     
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    When we die, we will be judged by God. The created one will argue for our soul...and God will be the Divine Judge perfect in all ways. Before judgement, we will see all our sins, including the confessed ones. We will see how those sins affected others and finally all the sins of the world. This prejudgment will totally destroy us spiritually and leave us a clean slate for Gods Judgement. Some say God won't see confessed sins. But God will see all sins...to be able dispense perfect judgement. Not that God is not able...but Our Heavenly Father needs us to see how judgement is dispensed perfectly. Once all the cards our on the table, God will proclaim judgement. To have perfect judgement...there must be a heaven and hell. So, even though I am a great believer in Gods mercy, perfect judgement also entails hell.

    Many saints have lived through this experience. Many deathbed experiences have stated "my life flashed before my eyes". Illumination is not new. Even non-believers have experienced it. If some of you don't believe in illumination, read about death bed experiences. Life flashing before your eyes is quite a normal experience.

    Now...will this great miracle take place in the next 50 or 100 years. Possibly. But it will take place. I have a feeling things will need to get much more evil before God comes back in the clouds. But we should prepare. Like a thief in the night...all things will come to pass. Illumination is real and we should all prepare. Let's not be caught flat footed.

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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    That is why there is a purgatory too so that all imperfections will be purged in the furnace of Divine Love.

    If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Cor 3:10-15).
     
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    Purgatory goes hand in hand with Divine Judgement. Gods would have to send many of us to hell, if there was no purgatory. It has to be Perfect Judgement. Therefore, purgatory allows for more souls to enter heaven. It is a place to suffer...to clean the slate. God, through His great Mercy, created one last layer in judgement to allow souls to enter heaven. The pains of purgatory must be great. But God created purgatory to allow more of us to heaven. God seems to try to open as many doors as possible.

    But He must follow Perfect and Divine Judgement. There are divine rules to everything.

    Thank you st. Garabandal...it's always a good morning...when God gives you time to reflect on the mystical.

    Brother al


     
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    We are invited through cooperation with Divine Love to 'cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit' (2 Cor 7:1; cf. 1 Jn 3:3), because the encounter with God requires absolute purity.

    Every trace of attachment to evil must be eliminated, every imperfection of the soul corrected. Purification must be complete, and indeed this is precisely what is meant by the Church's teaching on purgatory. The term does not indicate a place, but a condition of existence. Those who, after death, exist in a state of purification, are already in the love of Christ who removes from them the remnants of imperfection (cf. Ecumenical Council of Florence, Decretum pro Graecis: DS 1304; Ecumenical Council of Trent, Decretum de iustificatione: DS 1580; Decretum de purgatorio: DS 1820).
     
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