October convergence?

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  1. Jason Fernando

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    and that interview was in the 1990s, when nobody expected a future war between two soviet-era allies, truly prophetic
     
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    I read last year a review in Portuguese of the book Windswept House (1996), and I was surprised that Father Malachi Martin cites a meeting where a feminist nun would have given the opening prayer (with several bishops present) with invocations to the matriarchal blessing of Mother Earth and of Sophia, the Goddess of Wisdom (pagan invocations commonly used by Goddess worshipers, an American neo-pagan sect). I think this is very reminiscent of the opening of the Amazon Synod with the cult of Pachamama (which is a pagan idol associated with nature). https://www.montfort.org.br/bra/cadernos/religiao/casa_varrida_ventos/
     
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    Andy,

    With the closure of so many parishes over the last few years, it might be worthwhile to check and see if those parishes are still open.:unsure::)
     
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    I have a question, and some thoughts. First of all, does anyone here remember a prophecy or apparition where it was said that Mary would no longer hold back the punishing arm of God when "they try to take my Son from my arms"? Or something like that? I think about this all the time but can't remember where I read it. If it is reputable, could it be referring to a coming time during which the Eucharist will be removed from the Church because of becoming invalid due to something heretical like interfaith Communion? So the Church would symbolize Mary having Jesus taken from her in this case?

    Second, I was thinking about the Synod coming up....and how it's some kind of attempt to democratize the Church, which up until now has basically been the last major monarchy on earth. Over the past few centuries, the monarchies of the world have been dismantled in favor of democracies giving supposed power to the people. And to my knowledge, it has pretty much always been a transition that occurs through bloody revolution. So many lives lost, so much suffering... And now we have the Church itself about to have this Synod on Synodality, by which it looks to be trying to change the hierarchical structure of the Church upside down by telling bishops and cardinals to listen to and follow the people instead. It feels like the last major attempt of toppling a monarchy...and the most important one, at that. It occurred to me that since no prior democracy has been achieved without violent upheaval, how can we expect anything less once this synod gets underway? But this will be so much more than a country-wide revolution... It will be worldwide, and spiritual. All that Mary has been warning about makes so much sense when you think about the implications of this synod, should they achieve the goals they seem set on...
     
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    http://motheofgod.com/threads/the-prophecies-of-blessed-elizabeth-canori-mora.11921/
     
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    From member Praetorian:

    As to the prophecies of Blessed Elizabeth Canori Mora in general, I have always thought the dates they were given to her on were very interesting. If we advance the dates they were given exactly 200 years then they fit with what is going on now.

    Her vision of the Crisis in the Church was given in 1813. 200 years before the current pontificate began in 2013.

    In 1816 her visions state that Our Lady ceased asking for Mercy for the world and asked for Justice instead as apostates try to rip her son from her. That could be taken as Brian mentioned above as the early implementation of Amoris Laetitia in 2016 allowing active adulterers to receive the Holy Eucharist.

    In 1820 she had a vision of St. Peter descending to protect "All good Christians" possibly meaning he will guide those who persevere in the true faith while the rest of the Church abandons it. Could this have something to do with what will happen in 2020?

    Some more of her visions:

    “On the Feast of St. Peter, 29th of June, 1820, whilst I was praying,” … Blessed Elizabeth says, “for the wants of the Church and the conversion of sinners, amongst whom I am the first, I was ravished in spirit, and drawn very near to God. Through an infinite light I was so intimately united to Him that I lost all sentiments of myself. The sweet impressions of the love of God replenished me with an inexpressible joy and satisfaction. My soul, however, remained calm in these tokens of Divine kindness.

    “Then it seemed to me to behold the heavens opening, and St. Peter, prince of the Apostles, coming down, surrounded with great glory and by a numerous escort of heavenly spirits, singing canticles. St. Peter was dressed in his pontifical robes and held in his right hand the pastoral staff, with which he used to draw upon the Earth an immense cross; at the same time the angels sang these words of the Psalmist, Constitues eos principes super omnem terram— you will constitute them princes over the whole Earth.

    “After this, the holy Apostle touched with his staff the four extremities of the cross, from which sprung up four beautiful trees loaded with blossoms and fruits. These mysterious trees had the form of a cross, and were surrounded by a splendid light. Then I comprehended in the depth of my soul that St. Peter had produced these four symbolic trees to the end that they may serve as a place of refuge to the little flocks of the faithful friends of Jesus Christ, and in order to preserve them from the fearful punishment which shall convulse the whole Earth. All good Christians shall then be protected under these trees, together with all those religious persons who shall have faithfully preserved in their hearts the spirit of their order.

    “I say the same thing in relation to the secular clergy and to all other persons of every class who shall have kept in their heart the Catholic faith— they shall all be protected. But woe to those religious who do not observe their rule! Thrice unhappy they, for they shall all be struck by that terrible punishment. I say the same to all secular clergy, and to all classes of people in the world who give themselves to a life of pleasure, and who follow the false maxims of modern ideas, which are opposed to the holy precepts of the Gospel. These wretched people, who through their scandalous conduct deny the faith of Jesus Christ, shall perish under the weight of the indignant arm of God’s justice. Not one of them shall be able to escape the punishment.

    “I beheld those good Christians, who had sought a refuge under those mysterious trees, in the form of beautiful lambs confided to the care and vigilance of St. Peter, their good shepherd, testifying to him the most humble and most respectful obedience. As soon as St. Peter, the prince of the Apostles, had gathered the flock of Jesus in a place of safety, he re-ascended into Heaven, accompanied by legions of angels. Scarcely had they disappeared, when the sky was covered with clouds so dense and dismal that it was impossible to look at them without dismay. On a sudden there burst out such a terrible and violent wind, that its noise seemed like the roars of furious lions. The sound of the dreadful hurricane was heard over the whole Earth. Fear and terror struck not only men, but the very beasts.

    “All men shall rise one against the other, and they shall kill one another without pity. During this sanguinary [bloody] conflict, the avenging arm of God will strike the wicked, and in His mighty power He will punish their pride and presumption. God will employ the powers of Hell for the extermination of these impious and heretical persons who desire to overthrow the Church and destroy it to its very foundation. These presumptuous men in their mad impiety believe they can overthrow God from His throne; but the Lord will despise their artifices, and through an effect of His almighty hand He will punish these impious blasphemers by giving permission to the infernal spirits to come out from Hell. Innumerable legions of demons shall overrun the Earth, and shall execute the orders of Divine Justice, by causing terrible calamities and disasters; they shall attack everything; they shall injure individual persons and entire families; they shall devastate property and alimentary (food) productions, cities and villages. Nothing on Earth shall be spared. God will allow the demons to strike with death those impious men, because they gave themselves up to the infernal powers, and had formed with them a compact against the Catholic Church.

    “Being desirous of more fully penetrating my spirit with a deeper sentiment of His divine justice, God showed to me the awful abyss; I saw in the bowels of the Earth a dark and frightful cavern, whence an infinite number of demons were issuing forth, who under the form of men and beasts came to ravage the world, leaving everywhere ruins and blood. Happy will be all true and good Catholics! They shall experience the powerful protection of the holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, who will watch over them lest they may be injured either in their persons or their property. Those evil spirits shall plunder every place where God has been outraged, despised, and blasphemed; the edifices they profaned will be pulled down and destroyed, and nothing but ruins shall remain of them.

    “After this frightful punishment, I saw the heavens opening, and St. Peter coming down again, upon Earth; he was vested in his pontifical robes, and surrounded by a great number of angels, who were chanting hymns in his honor, and they proclaimed him as sovereign of the Earth. I saw also St. Paul descending upon the Earth. By God’s command, he traversed the Earth and unchained the demons, whom he brought before St. Peter, who commanded them to return into Hell, whence they had come.

    “Then a great light appeared upon the Earth, which was the sign of the reconciliation of God with man. The angels conducted before the throne of the prince of the Apostles the small flock that had remained faithful to Jesus Christ. These good and zealous Christians testified to him the most profound respect, praising God and thanking the Apostles for having delivered them from the common destruction, and for having protected the Church of Jesus Christ by not permitting her to be infected with the false maxims of the world. St. Peter then chose the new pope. The Church was again organized; religious orders were re-established; the private families of ordinary Christians, through their great fervor and seal for the glory of God, became like the most exemplary religious communities. Such is the glorious triumph reserved for the Catholic Church; she shall be praised, honored, and esteemed by all men. All men shall become Catholics, and shall acknowledge the Pope as Vicar of Jesus Christ. Amen.”
     
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    I was just coming here to post this, after reading it just now on that other thread.... Wow! This is pretty much confirming what I was thinking! Although I was imagining a scenario in which the Eucharist is offered to everyone, even non-Catholics. It seems to me that Pope Francis and others have a very strong emphasis on ALL being welcome---that EVERYONE be allowed to receive Jesus, repentant or not. "ALL are welcome" is repeated ad nauseum.

    And wow, about this prophecy... I can't help think of the FSSP, the society of ST. PETER, where many good Catholics seem to be flocking to these days...and how they were spared by Our Lady on her Feast day from being suppressed while many traditional Masses were and still are being suppressed. Idk, it makes me wonder. Lots to ponder.
     
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    I believe there is a fearful day of reckoning on the horizon which also brings into question my personal areas of lukewarmness. :sick:

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
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    This prophecy would imply that there will be an attack on the Church from within and from the top, or why would Peter appoint a new pope? I had not seen these prophetic words before. They give me hope.
     
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    I often wonder what we are to do if/when they do make dramatic changes to dogma. Would the consecration in our parishes even be valid anymore? What is a good Catholic to do to receive our Lord?
     
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    The church allows you to receive the Holy Eucharist in an Orthodox church in the face of the absolute impossibility of receiving Eucharistic Jesus in a Catholic church.
     
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    Can We Receive Communion in Non-Catholic Churches?

    Q. Are Catholics allowed to receive Communion in non-Catholic churches?


    A. No, they are not. Receiving Communion in a non-Catholic church would proclaim that a person is in “communion” with that denomination and its teachings, and therefore not in “communion” with the Catholic Church.


    Moreover, Communion for Protestant Christians is not what it is for Catholics. We believe that the most Holy Eucharist is truly the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, and this is true because bishops who enjoy an unbroken continuity with the original apostles ordained by Christ have validly ordained our priests. Protestants, on the other hand, do not have this “Real Presence,” as we say, in their Communion; nor do most of them even believe in such a Real Presence in Communion.


    The only time that a Catholic may licitly receive the Eucharist in a non-Catholic Church is spelled out clearly in Canon 844.2: “Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage commends it, and provided the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, Christ’s faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister, may lawfully receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid” (emphasis added).


    It is commonly understood that the churches in which these sacraments are valid are the Eastern Orthodox churches (Greek Orthodox, Byzantine Orthodox, etc.), the Assyrian Church of the East, and the Polish National Catholic Church. But the Catholic Church does not consider Communion in the Protestant denominations to be valid (that is, the true Body and Blood of Christ), however meaningful the ceremony may be to those who take part in it.

    https://www.stcatherinercc.org/single-post/2019/10/23/can-we-receive-communion-in-other-churches
     
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    Find the underground Church. Its out there.
     
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    God will guide us in His Providence when the time comes.
     
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    https://wordsfromjesus.com/
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    Due to copyright restrictions, I cannot copy and paste the message from Jesus that concerns the United States.
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    It’s eye opening.
     
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