The Holy Souls

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  1. Jason Fernando

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    I can understand the possibility of Purgatory once we reach the age of reason but the children I saw were very, very young ones...
     
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    Yes, let's pray for Amelia...
     
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    Perhaps the babies died at the same time as the mothers and the mothers were allowed to keep their babies with them.
     
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    I think these visions were not of Holy Souls but a seeing of the Irish Famine. A look into the past.

     
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    It is possible to be shown events in the past. The film, 'The Passion of the Christ' ,was based on such showings to the mystic, Blessed Catherine Emmerich.
     
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    That is so touching, HH.
     
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    I think one would need to really pray into this to receive proper discernment. In my own experience, these "visions" always have a deeper meaning.
    Our tendency, especially where suffering children are involved, may be to have an emotional reaction and come to a quick conclusion based on those reactions on what it may mean.
     
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    There was a very unusual story in the New York Times about an American service man who returned from action in Syria only to encounter the ghost of a little girl in his appartment:

    https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/the-ghosts-of-a-battle-past


    'When Javier Ortiz came home from a secret mission in Syria, the ghost of a dead girl appeared to him in his kitchen. She was pale and covered in chalky dust, as if hit by an explosion, and her eyes stared at him with a glare as dark and heavy as oil.

    The 21-year-old Marine was part of an artillery gun crew that fought against the Islamic State, and he knew that his unit’s huge cannons had killed hundreds of enemy fighters. The ghost, he was sure, was their revenge. A shiver went through him. He backed into another room in his apartment near Camp Pendleton in California and flicked on the lights, certain that he was imagining things. She was still there. ..'


    Usually when we Catholics hear of such ghostly going on we at once think of the souls from purgatory or demons, one or the other. Many Catholics would say that is always,always one or the other.

    But I think there is a third kind of ghost. That of an Earthbound spirit who refuses to move on to the other side because they have such a strong attachment to things here, down below. In the case of this little girl ghost it was anger at being blown up.

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2023/11/a-secret-war-strange-new-wounds-and-silence-from-the-pentagon/

    A Secret War, Strange New Wounds, and Silence From the Pentagon

    From The New York Times: “When Javier Ortiz came home from a secret mission in Syria, the ghost of a dead girl appeared to him in his kitchen. She was pale and covered in chalky dust, as if hit by an explosion, and her eyes stared at him with a glare as dark and heavy as oil.

    The 21-year-old Marine was part of an artillery gun crew that fought against the Islamic State, and he knew that his unit’s huge cannons had killed hundreds of enemy fighters. The ghost, he was sure, was their revenge.

    A shiver went through him. He backed into another room in his apartment near Camp Pendleton in California and flicked on the lights, certain that he was imagining things. She was still there.

    A few days later, in the barracks not far away, a 22-year-old Marine named Austin Powell pounded on his neighbor’s door in tears and stammered: ‘There’s something in my room! I’m hearing something in my room!’

    His neighbor, Brady Zipoy, 20, searched the room but found nothing.

    ‘It’s all right — I’ve been having problems, too,’ Lance Corporal Zipoy said, tapping his head. The day before, he bent down to tie his boots and was floored by a sudden avalanche of emotion so overwhelming and bizarre that he had no words for it. ‘We’ll go see the doc,’ he told his friend. ‘We’ll get help.’

    . . . An investigation by The New York Times found that many of the troops sent to bombard the Islamic State in 2016 and 2017 returned to the United States plagued by nightmares, panic attacks, depression and, in a few cases, hallucinations. Once-reliable Marines turned unpredictable and strange. Some are now homeless. A striking number eventually died by suicide, or tried to.

    . . . A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy. The only thing remarkable about their deployments was the sheer number of artillery rounds they had fired.

    . . . Military guidelines say that firing all those rounds is safe. What happened to the crews suggests that those guidelines were wrong.

    The cannon blasts were strong enough to hurl a 100-pound round 15 miles, and each unleashed a shock wave that shot through the crew members’ bodies, vibrating bone, punching lungs and hearts, and whipping at cruise-missile speeds through the most delicate organ of all, the brain.

    More than a year after Marines started experiencing problems, the Marine Corps leadership [ordered] a study of one of the hardest-hit units, Fox Battery, 2nd Battalion, 10th Marines . . . the report, published in 2019, made a startling finding: The gun crews were being hurt by their own weapons.

    . . . The military did not seem to be taking the threat seriously, the briefing cautioned: Safety training — both for gun crews and medical personnel — was so deficient, it said, that the risks of repeated blast exposure ‘are seemingly ignored.’

    Despite the concerns raised in the report, no one appears to have warned the commanders responsible for the gun crews. And no one told the hundreds of troops who had fired the rounds.

    Instead, in case after case, the military treated the crews’ combat injuries as routine psychiatric disorders, if they treated them at all. Troops were told they had attention deficit disorder or depression. Many were given potent psychotropic drugs that made it hard to function and failed to provide much relief.

    Others who started acting strangely after the deployments were simply dismissed as problems, punished for misconduct and forced out of the military in punitive ways that cut them off from the veterans’ health care benefits that they now desperately need.

    The Marine Corps has never commented publicly on the findings of the study. It declined to say who ordered it or why, and would not make the staff members who conducted it available for interviews. Officers who were in charge of the artillery batteries declined to comment for this article, or did not respond to interview requests.

    The silence has left the affected veterans to try to figure out for themselves what is happening.

    Many never have.”

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    Mystery Of Wizard Clip

    America's most documented haunting. It's considered the most documented haunting in America — a terrifying 18th-century poltergeist that was cured only by a Catholic priest.
     
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    Everything that happens, happens with the Will of God active or passive , nothing escapes it. For Him to permit a soul from purgatory to return so very forcibly as in this case was a great act of mercy and kindness.

    It must be very . very hard for people like Protestants who do not believe in Purgatory to come to terms with something like this. How do we explain it otherwise?



    We read time and again of Protestant Ministers coming to Catholic priests to do exorcisms ,again I am not quite sure how they can figure this into the scheme of thing..
     
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    Years ago on utube I came across a video from a young Protestant denying Purgatory and asking people to give Scriptural citations to prove it's existence. I don't usually comment on utube but took it as a challenge and posted about twenty or thirty and waited with interest to see what he would make of it.

    I had thought he would dispute the relevance of the quotes but to my surprise he came back too or three days later and admitted there was Scriptural foundation for Purgatory. Then he went on to say he still did not believe even though Sola Scriptura was the whole basis of his previous argument.

    He simply did not want to believe. I gave up.

    It seems to me that belief in Purgatory is a great grace which we should always be grateful for.
     
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