The Great Monarch and the Holy Pope

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Do you believe in the prophecy of the Great Monarch and the Holy Pope?

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  1. Byron

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    So beautiful Henri. Thank you
     
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    This just popped up on my Facebook memories today:
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    The friend in question is a professor of systematic theology at FUS and has been an outspoken critic of the current Vatican regime and a signatory of several of the open letters to or about this pope regarding heresies in his public statements and formal writings.
     
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  3. Mario

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    Great picture, Brian! Twas a privilege for the holy Shepherd to meet you!

    Lord have Mercy upon Your Church! Lord have Mercy upon me!
     
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    There is a beautiful quote by Emperor Charles V about languages. "I speak Spanish to God, French to Men, Italian to Women, and German to my Horse." At first it seems like an insult to the German people, but from one Polyglot to the other who knows horses it is actually a beautifully veiled compliment on the German Language. Horses are a pack animal, and the horse whisperers know that a Man can become a part of that pack, but Horses will follow their leader through instinct, not force. It is listening and leading. For example, if your horse refuses to move, it may be because it perceives danger, if you do not listen to the horse, it could get you killed, but it may be just because the horse is just being stubborn. If you try to beat it into submission it will no longer perceive you as the leader of the pack, but if you get off the horse and walk in front of it, he will follow you. So, back to the quote. Spanish is the language of Passion that comes from the soul, and therefore it is spoken to God, French was the heart of Christendom, and the restored Roman Empire and therefore the language of man. Italian is the language of love, and comes from the heart, which is why it is spoken to women. Now, I only know a few phrases and words in German, but my knowledge of horses leads me to believe that the German language is the gentlest command, or commanding gentleness. The quote is actually a compliment to the German Language, for God may seem absent, men will betray, women will break your heart, but a good horse is truly a man's best friend, even the natives of America called them big dogs in their mother tongue.
     
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    LOL! I feel like some strange Catholic version of Forrest Gump. There’s no way a redneck from backwoods Pennsylvania should get to meet such incredible holy churchmen.
     
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    You do keep some excellent company! :)
     
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    Hi Henri

    Your story has evoked a memory in me of an amusing account told to me by both my dad and my grandmother.

    During world war II, My dear grandmother who raised five sons and one daughter while my grandad severed in world war 2 (they had another 2 girls after the war ended ), had a very stubborn horse that Nan named "windbag"!

    Windbag was known for not compiling with commands. Windbag demonstrated this to its riders by refusing to move when commanded and if the rider or riders insisted on movement, than windbag would oblige by trotting or galloping on the spot!!

    Imagine a horse, refusing to move, when the rider mounted and instructed the horse to move but the horse did not do anything which the rider expressed! My dad and his brothers had to ride windbag to school each day, but it apparently became impossible as windbag would not move.

    So my dad, along with his four brothers devised a way to make windbag move, they would gather stinging nettles, mount windbag, and the person at the back of windbag nearest the flanks would hit windbag in the flanks with these nettles and windbag would of course move

    As a child (when told this) I believed that this was a cruel way to treat a horse by my father and my uncles.
    However one day my nanna told me of a terrible situation she had when she was all alone without grandad because he was away fighting in the war, and one of her children became very sick, so she had to get to the town and the only way possible was on horseback.

    She saddled windbag, and proceeded to ride her into town but she realised after a few moments that all the galloping of windbag got her nowhere, windbag was galloping on the spot!

    Nan then apparently rebuked windbag and was able to make it to town and receive the medication needed.

    Nan didn't say much at this time, only that windbag did do as required at this time.

    I also remember Nan being upset when I told her what my dad and his brothers did to get windbag to move on their way to school.

    I suppose I will never know the full truth of poor old windbag, the horse that could gallop on the spot!

    God bless us all Amen
     
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    Thank you for sharing. That is a beautiful story that brought a smile to my face. What a silly horse, but the ingenuity on behalf of the family in getting it to move is akin to Constantine and his horse.
     
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    What a profound treat & recollection!! Thank you for sharing.
     
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    Family lore! What would we do without it!:ROFLMAO:
     
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    According to Marie Julie Jahenny, the Great Monarch will be poorly dressed. It seems to be a rather small and insignificant detail. but I find it to be rather profound. Although Marie believed that the Count de Chambourd was the Great Monarch, and it has been theorized he will return to life, I find that although that detail may be literal, there is a symbolic and spiritual understanding to it as well.

    The first passage that comes to mind is from the Old Testament about Moses's War Chief Joshua.

    Now Joshua was dressed in filthy garments as he stood before the angel. 4So the angel said to those standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes!” Then he said to Joshua, “See, I have removed your iniquity, and I will clothe you with splendid robes.” 5Then I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.” So a clean turban was placed on his head, and they clothed him, as the angel of the LORD stood by.…

    The Second passage is from the Gospel.

    The Parable of the Banquet
    (Luke 14:15–24)

    1Once again, Jesus spoke to them in parables: 2“The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to call those he had invited to the banquet, but they refused to come.4Again, he sent other servants and said, ‘Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner. My oxen and fattened cattle have been killed, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.’5But they paid no attention and went away, one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them, and killed them.7The king was enraged, and he sent his troops to destroy those murderers and burn their city. 8Then he said to his servants, ‘The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited were not worthy. 9Go therefore to the crossroads and invite to the banquet as many as you can find.’10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered everyone they could find, both evil and good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.11But when the king came in to see the guests, he spotted a man who was not dressed in wedding clothes. 12‘Friend,’ he asked, ‘how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’

    But the man was speechless.13Then the king told the servants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’14For many are called, but few are chosen.”

    This parable is obstruse in this regard. I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter, because I don't really understand the hidden significance. A couple points.

    The Lord called many to his banquet who had a right to be there, but they did not come for various reasons, in fact they went as far as persecuting God's servants. So. God punished them with fire. Then he sent his servants to the Crossroads which is symbolic of those having a choice in life that will alter their destiny. So, both the evil and good were filled in the guest hall. meaning they accepted the invitation. and they were found worthy to attend. Then there is one man the King spots who is not dressed in Wedding garments. The obvious understanding is about him not being prepared, but there is more depth than that. He is out of place. The Lord refers to him as Friend, and he is questioned about his attire. The man is left speechless. The Lord binds him and throws him out, which makes one wonder is he the cause of the weeping and gnashing of teeth? The interesting thing is that nobody else in the parable is referred to as Friend of the Lord. Only the man that didn't know where he was going in life, and accepted the invitation, perhaps unaware of the nature of the occasion and what was required of him. He is bound, which is not necessary to escort him out of the Feast. So, in a sense he is being sent to a place where he doesn't want to go. It is almost as a man with a choice in his life encounters the Lord and is "forced" to walk a certain path back at the Crossroads of life, which causes much woe for humanity.
     
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    the Angelic Pope, the great monarch and the 2 witnesses. will they be alive at the same time? talk about a dream team (y)
     
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    I can honestly say it doesn’t matter to me…I’ve let go…what will be, will be, what was, was, and what is, is.
     
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    I forgot to ask: is the angelic pope the same as "peter the roman" of the prophecy of saint malachias? Is that prophecy of the popes held in high regard by serious theologians?
    if the "pope counter" is legitimate, we have not so much time!:eek:
     
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    If you read the Prophecies of Our Lady of Good Success, there is a quite a good description of him there.

    https://waragainstbeing.com/partxiii/

    PS There are a whole string of saints and mystics refer to him, I believe.
     
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