The Great Monarch and the Holy Pope

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Do you believe in the prophecy of the Great Monarch and the Holy Pope?

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  1. Frankly

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    BINGO!

    This has been my firm conviction for decades.
    More simply stated: When God the Father deems its the time to do this - He'll finally speak His Word Jesus to Return.
    For only Divinity has the wherewithal to overcome what ails Creation.
     
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  2. Byron

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    Agree with what you have analyzed except the subject about the antipope. A perfectly elected Pope can be a false Catholic. Even Fulton Sheen mentioned that the Antichrist would secretly not believe in God. But good job on how you’ve put it all together.
     
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    Maria Valtorta is not recognized on
    this forum as being a valid source.
     
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  4. Frankly

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    Hmmmm.. The AntiChrist will proclaim himself to be God !

    From God in 2 Thess 2

    Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
    not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
    Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

    He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

    I'm always keeping an eye out on The Planned Third Temple in Jerusalem.

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  5. Byron

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    I still don’t believe in that third temple in Jerusalem. At least not for these end times.
     
  6. Frankly

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    That the Third Temple is a very big deal for Jews in Israel is not a matter of belief or not - for it's a very well known reality.
     
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    HH, on what criteria do you base your comment? Church approval?

    Cardinal Ratzinger in a letter to Bishop Boland of Birmingham, Alabama from 1993 accepts Maria Valtorta as "a valid source." That was the latest Vatican statement on the matter. I direct you to the following for confirmation:

    http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/Chrchval.html#Appendix II
     
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    Thank you for telling us of this Brian. I feel in my heart he is right. A great deal of prayer and sacrifice all around....a long hard pilgrimage ahead for all of us.
     
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    The well-known and respected Fr. Mitch Pacwa on EWTN - agrees.. And he really tears her main work apart.


    IS "THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD" SIMPLY A BAD NOVEL? {Brief Excerpt}

    Maria Valtorta's multi-volume life of Jesus flirts with heresy and exhibits bad taste. Its claim to authenticity have been rejected by Rome.

    by Father Mitch Pacwa, S.J.

    "The Poem of the Man-God" is a five-volume "narrative" of the life of Jesus written in the 1940s by a sickly Italian woman named Maria Valtorta. "Poem" purports to fill in the details of Jesus' life left blank by the four Gospels. Such narratives have been produced since the second century A.D. Some were written by gnostic heretics. Some by New Agers and occultists. And some were produced by pious Christians who made up stories about Jesus to edify their readers and listeners.

    Full and Interesting Read: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/is-the-poem-of-the-mangod-simply-a-bad-novel-12470

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    I love Fr Pacwa. He’s a wonderful priest. But at one time he supported Charlie Johnson. Nobody is perfect.
     
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    It’s a reality. It has been planned for years. In fact, I knew of an evangelical Protestant who sent money to Israel to help finance the rebuilding of the Third Temple. This was around 1994 or 5.
     
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    Psalm 34:19
    Many are the trials of the just man, but out of them all, the Lord will deliver him.

     
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    yes the holy scripture says that he will succeed in ruling the whole world without exception:
    Revelation 13:1-8

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    Then I saw a beast come out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads; on its horns were ten diadems, and on its heads blasphemous name (s).


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    The beast I saw was like a leopard, but it had feet like a bear's, and its mouth was like the mouth of a lion. To it the dragon gave its own power and throne, along with great authority.

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    I saw that one of its heads seemed to have been mortally wounded, but this mortal wound was healed. Fascinated, the whole world followed after the beast.

    4 They worshiped the dragon because it gave its authority to the beast; they also worshiped the beast and said, "Who can compare with the beast or who can fight against it?"


    5 The beast was given a mouth uttering proud boasts and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for forty-two months.


    6 It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling and those who dwell in heaven.

    7 It was also allowed to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them, and it was granted authority over every tribe, people, tongue, and nation.

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    All the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, all whose names were not written from the foundation of the world in the book of life, which belongs to the Lamb who was slain"


    this includes every nation without exception; a picture of today's world in which all nations need conversion; and as conchita said the warning and the miracle will come to convert the world; Our Lady will crush the head of the infernal serpent.
     
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    I love this post. Thank you Luan. Just like Our Lady gave birth to Jesus, She will again bring salvation to the world. His coming in the end times is through her again. And what is her most powerful weapon? The Rosary. I truly believe we are not at the end of the world. This is not His final judgment coming. I guess we will have to wait and see if the third temple will be built. But I still doubt it. I don’t see it as God’s plan. Protestants will open their eyes once the Warning comes. Conversions will happen through the sacraments and Rosary. They will finally understand that the body is the temple of God, and the Eucharist is the living God. And through the Holy Spirit the Antichrist will be killed. It’s a spiritual Coming.
     
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    That the Third Temple is a very big deal for Jews in Israel is not a matter of belief or not - for it's a very well known reality.

    Exactly.. I've been closely following the events connected with the Third Temple - including its quest to locate a perfect Red Heifer for the required purification
    The very purpose of past Temples in Jerusalem - destroyed b/c of Disobedience in the part of (some significant) Israelites / Jews - is oft-unknown to many..
    Evangelicals / Christian Zionists - have been and continue to be Lured into accepting this temple as the place where the "real" messiah shall come.
    All the gold and otherwise accourtrements to be used in the temple (including the Ark of The COVENANT) - are ready..
    The Sanhedrin has been reborn.. As well as their meeting place has been built.
    Because of what we're talking about, resistance to these truths has always been v.strong.......
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    I agree with you.
     
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    I believe in what you are explaining, but after the Warning and Miracle all this may very well turn to rubbish.
    The focus will be about the Catholic Church. Franciscans in Jerusalem will be busier than ever.
     
  18. Frankly

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    One event which can not "turn to rubbish" is - for starters - the coming of the AntiChrist.
     
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    Prophecies: The Coming Great, Catholic Monarch
     
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    Jesus is the King of Kings and The Lord of Lords..

    Nothing in Sacred Scriptures and the Magisterium very clearly attests to the varying stories of 'the Great Monarch'

    A false prophet is a person who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration, or to speak for Go..

    JESUS' warnings of False Prophets are being played out before our very eyes

    “Be careful of false prophets. They come to you and look gentle like sheep. But they are really dangerous like wolves."

    Since therefore from JESUS's Prophetic words - they have and still must arrive - ask oneself.. "So, who have I deemed yet to be false ?"

    CCC 67 - 67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church.
    They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith.

    Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment,
    ... as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such "revelations".


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