Pope Francis

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  1. maryrose

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    Wow, you are amazing. I struggle to write a coherent sentence and as far as I am aware it's down to borderline stupidity :confused:
     
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    Is he doubling down because he knows his time is short?

    If so, he is inflicting his human will on Christ's church.
     
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  3. AED

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    Its tragic. I pray for his salvation with every Rosary.:(
     
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  4. AED

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    Not true maryrose. You are very articulate. You speak from the heart.(y)
     
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    Agree!!!!
     
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    I pray, too, every day.
     
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    Some demons can only be driven out by prayer and fasting. With the smoke of satan being fanned into a fire, the Vatican will need to be exorcised when this nightmare is done. Meanwhile let us deny ourselves and offer up all our sufferings, however small, for the salvation of the current lot. I’ve been on my own this week as my husband goes skiing every year. It’s always a chance to make a retreat. Fasting on one meal a day has been good for my health and soul. A sort of mini Lent. The Remnant will have to get serious about this, especially those who like me are prone to indulging.
     
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  8. AED

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    Truth.
     
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  9. padraig

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    This explains much.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/e...ew-details-of-pope-francis-vatican-maneuvers/

    EXCLUSIVE: Insider reveals stunning new details of Pope Francis’ Vatican maneuvers
    In this week's first live episode of Faith & Reason, Father Charles Murr shared a story relating Msgr. Mario Marini’s views on then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

    In this week’s first live episode of Faith & Reason, featuring John-Henry Westen, Father Charles Murr, and Liz Yore, Murr shared a story relating how his longtime friend Msgr. Mario Marini viewed then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio’s Vatican maneuvers.

    While Fr. Murr knew about the revelation for some time, he did not wish to share it beforehand, as all he had to go by was his word and that of another priest privy to the matter. Having spoken with the priest about a week before this episode, he decided now was the time to say something.

    He begins with a biography of the life of Mario Marini for those unfamiliar with the man. Marini was born to a well-off Italian family. While Marini wanted to become a priest, he received a doctorate in civil engineering at the behest of his family, an anti-Catholic family who thought that it would dispel him of any vocation. It didn’t work, and Marini entered seminary after receiving his doctorate. He was financially cut off from his family and fell under the patronage of the then-Archbishop of Milan, Giovanni-Battista Montini, the future St. Paul VI.

    Marini had a hand in the Second Vatican Council as a seminarian, helping as an ecclesial “page boy,” and was ordained a priest toward its end. He served in the Vatican’s Secretariat of State beginning in 1974 after serving as a priest in Mexico, eventually working in the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments and the Congregation for the Clergy, never appearing in official Vatican ceremonies. It was Marini who helped Murr discern a vocation to the priesthood.

    The news Murr shares regarding Pope Francis was that he, Marini, and the other priest were having dinner shortly after the conclave of 2005 that resulted in the Ratzinger pontificate. According to Murr, Marini told him and the other priest that he was friends with the then-Cardinal Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Jorge Bergoglio, and that Bergoglio told him that he considered himself a traditionalist, with an ire toward the liberation theology that needed to be rooted out of the Jesuits. After the conclave, however, Marini told the other priests that he was wary of the Argentine cardinal.

    READ: Pope Francis: ‘I bless two people who love each other’ not homosexual ‘marriage’

    “From what Mario said, Bergoglio presented himself … as a very humble, pious, one of the last good Jesuits, who was suffering for how much he was defending the Society of Jesus and wanted to get things back on track,” Murr says. “Something happened in the 2005 election because after that Mario met with him but did not have the same confidence in him. He started taking a distance from him, and that was it.”

    “There’s something wrong here,” Murr says, explaining that the way Argentine dictator Juan Peron would win people’s support was tell them what they wanted to hear, and that what the Church is dealing with is something similar to Peron.

    Yore, commenting on Murr’s revelation, recalled that historian Henry Sire said that Cardinal Bergoglio “planted people in the Vatican.”

    “He wanted to know who were the power centers, who had information,” Yore explains. “And it sounds very much like he was pumping Marini for information,” Yore says, with Murr confirming her opinion. Yore also recalls that after the 2013 conclave, people were relieved to hear media reports that Bergoglio, now Pope Francis, was against liberation theology and a conservative.

    Murr also notes that Marini was a man who could easily spot a lie, and that one needed to be a “very good actor” to fool him. He also notes, following an observation by Westen, that Bergoglio would not have been elected in the 2013 conclave if the cardinals knew how liberal he was. Murr also states that most of the episcopate and the College of Cardinals are displeased with the current pontificate, most of the reaction to it done in silence.
     
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    This implies that Cardinal Bergoglio was a total fraud, who presented himself as his own opposite, in order to win support from the other cardinals.
     
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    Yes it Peronism. Presenting yourself to others in a way that will gain their approval. So to a Communist as a Communist , to a Fascist as a Fascist, to a Freemason as a Freemason.

    There is a story one time about Papa Frankie when he was Archbishop In Argentina. His nephew was allowed to stay with Frankie for the day in his office to see a , 'Day in the Life of', his famous uncle. During that time he met Top Trade Unionists and Top Industrialists.
    At the end of the meetings his nephew complained that to the Trade Unionists he presented himself as a Socialist/ Communist whilst to the Industrialists as a Free Marketeer Capitalist and that these things were at odds with each each other. To which his uncle Frankie simply shrugged and smiled in reply.

    “There is nothing more important than appearing to be religious.”
    ― Niccolò Machiavelli
     
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    Yes but the cardinals simply didn’t do their homework.

    Among liberation theology supporters everyone knew who he was.


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    Liberation Theologian Boff: “Francis is One of Us”
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    On 25 December 2016 the Brazilian Leonardo Boff, one of the most prominent theorists and operatives of Latin American Liberation Theology, gave a candidly revealing and manifoldly informative interview to the German regional newspaper Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger. Due to his confident, if not presumptuous, openness, the 78-year-old Boff (b. 14 December 1938) speaks about several matters of moment which we otherwise would not so easily hear about.

    For example, he reveals the following:

    • How and why Pope Francis did not meet Boff in Rome, as planned, on the day before the second Synod on the Family in 2015 – because the pope was angry at the Thirteen Cardinals’ Letter and was trying to quiet the situation (and himself?) ahead of the Synod;
    • How Cardinal Walter Kasper recently told Boff that Pope Francis has some “big surprises” planned;
    • How Pope Francis intends to allow the Catholic Church in Brazil to permit married priests, as his friend Cardinal Claudio Hummes has been requesting now for some time;
    • How Pope Francis had requested from Boff material for the writing of his own encyclical Laudato Si and how the pope thanked him afterwards;
    • How Boff considers Pope Francis to be “one of us,” meaning one of the supportive sympathizers with liberation theology.

    • https://onepeterfive.com/liberation-theologian-boff-francis-is-one-of-us/
     
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    If his own nephew can tell such a telling tale against PF, it brings to mind the question of why we know so little of his background and why he became one so hostile to the Church which he came to lead.
     
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    I hate to sound negative all the time about the man, but I don't even think Papa Frankie is a Liberation Theology supporter, or a Communist, or a Free Mason, or a Modernist, or a Progressive or a Liberal or an anything really. I think these are all simply means to destroy the Church. So he uses them. If he thought dressing up as Kermit the Frog and dancing the Charleston would destroy the Church he's be giving Miss Piggy a call in no time flat and getting measured up for his green jump suit.

    I think we are simply dealing with unfathomable evil here. Human Labels simply don't apply . No more than they apply to Lucifer himself. We are dealing with a Mystery of Darkness here, that of unfathomable evil ; as with Judas. Evil for its own sake.

    It is perfectly possible for a person to be perfectly evil. Mao Tse Tung, for instance, was never Communist, nor was Joe Stalin. The only thing these people ever believed in was themselves and the main chance. They used Communism to advance themselves.

    Its the same with Papa Frankie. The only sense he has ever been Catholic was in the Rituals. I doubt if he ever bought into any of it ,ever. Papa Frankie believes in Papa Frankie. I doubt if he believes in anything else very much.

    His intention was and is the total destruction of the Catholic Church. If that appears to be Satanic, that is because it actually is Satanic.

    2 Thessalonians 2:7

    For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
     
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    :(
     
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    We have to patiently endure the reports of Pope Francis' bad leadership. The holy Family had to patiently wait in Egypt until the death of Herod to return to Nazareth.
     
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    I don't have a good excuse. I'm either careless, or sabotaged by auto correct :sneaky:. There are times when I can't believe what I wrote, the nuns who taught me would be horrified. :LOL:
     
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    I know exactly what you mean.
    Autocorrect is EVIL.
     
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    There seems often to be a tendency to insert a 'woke' replacement for the word one intends.
     
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    Absolutely. :mad:
     
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