GARABANDAL INFO & ANSWERS

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  1. Glenn

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    I disagree. The description from Conchita and Mari Loli of the Chastisement are exact of other seers of the 3days of darkness. Tell why the are not the same event ?
     
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    because the three days of darkness is part of the tribulation period just after the warning and before the miracle and is certain to happen; it is a chastisement of sorts. The chastisement predicted in Garabandal is after the miracle and isnt guaranteed to happen and is much worse than the three days of darkness.
     
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    I don't know where your pulling this information from , but I 100% disagree. The 3 days of darkness is NOT happening before the Miracle,that Im 100 % sure of . ITS NOT even logical ! You get the Warning , then the earth is on fire for three days, then the Miracle ??? Sorry no one has ever pitched theat idea.
     
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    Its perfectly logical to have the 3 days of darkness after the warning and before the miracle, why would the 3 days happen after the miracle? it wouldnt say much for the miracles effectiveness then which is meant to convert the whole world and for Gods power. Marie julie jahenny speaks about the 3 days which is part of the tribulation period before the miracle. the 3 days of darkness are going to happen. the chastisement predicted in garabandal is conditional and is after the miracle.
     
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    WHY punish the world BEFORE the Miracle ? Thats not logical ! You cant even explain your logic. (go ahead we're all waiting) No Visionary has ever said that would happen either . WARNING, MIRACLE conditional CHASTISEMENT, thats the order ,always has been.
     
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    why punish the world before the miracle? what are you talking about? the tribulation is before the miracle and that will be a punishment, so is the warning so why not the three days of darkness, you need to do more research read marie jule jahennys prophecy which talks about france and the three days of darkness, our lady mentioned france to conchita too. garabandal is true but is only a bare outline of what will happen.
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    I need to do more research ? LOL I get my info from CONCHITA directly . The 3 days is NOT part of the Tribulation (which I know is before the warning) . Show me ONE quote from Garabandal saying there a punishment by fire BEFORE THE MIRACLE ! All your doing is confusing people with nonsense. Don't even respond. I not having anymore of this ridiculous conversation.
     
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    the three days of darkness is after the warning and before the miracle, you need to accept that.
     
  10. Glenn

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    MARY, MOTHER & TEACHER
    Modesty, Humility, Obedience, Piety, Charity, Penance, Purity of Soul & Patience.

    After re-reading this article today,it struck me, this is how Conchita lives her life, by these very virtues Mary taught her.

    SCROLL TO pg.120 Use “+” sign in bottom right to enlarge print size.

    https://ourlady.ca/.../uploads/2018/10/Garabandal_Book1.pdf
     
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    Actually, we don't have to accept that for it has no direct bearing on our eternal destiny.

    One thing to realize about this thread is that it does not exist to debate the series of events. Timing is secondary to living the Message and Glenn has done a wonderful job of keeping us all on this path of pursuing virtue and holiness. If we do this we can be prepared for anything, including the day each of us dies.

    Even if we were certain of the timetable for events, that would do absolutely nothing to prepare each of us for our personal judgment. Living the messages is the current aim of Conchita's life and should be ours as well!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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    SAINT (Pope) John Paul II - on Garabandal



    There is a book on Garabandal, written by Albrecht Weber in 1993, entitled Garabandal Der Zeigefmger Gottes (Garabandal: The Finger of God), of which a first edition copy was presented to Pope John Paul II. He later asked his secretary, Fr. (now Archbishop) Stanislaus Dziwisz, to write to the author. In the subsequent printing (2000) of the book, on page 19, a portion of the Pope's message is reprinted, as follows:"May God reward you for everything. Especially for the deep love with which you are making the events connected with Garabandal more widely known. May the Message of the Mother of God find an entrance into hearts before it is too late. As an expression of joy and gratitude, the Holy Father gives you his apostolic blessing."Weber writes, "From the attached greeting in the Pope's own handwriting, with his signature, it is clear how deep an interest he has in the events of Garabandal, and how anxious he is that they should be made known in a credible way."



    On July 23, 1988, during a special general audience with the Pope at the Vatican ... "special" because it was held on Saturday, rather than the usual Wednesday... Father Robert introduced Garabandal Visionary Mari-Loli and family to him. Father Robert who was holding 7 year old Maria Dolores, one of the three Lafleur children, said to the Pope: "Your Holiness, a special blessing for your littlest children who come on behalf of The Blessed Virgin from Garabandal." Our Holy Father exclaimed "Garabandal!"

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    Yes Mario you are right there. but I am sticking to my belief that the three days of darkness is between the warning and the miracle, the chastisement mentioned in Garabandal is about people being on fire and gasping for thirst and people running into the sea to put out flames, that is not part of the three days of darkness prophecy, Glenn just dismisses anyone who doesnt agree with him because he thinks he knows more than others.
     
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    Glenn does know more than others. He's an expert on Garabandal.

    You are in a minority of one with your opinion.
     
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    You are missing the point, and your statement makes no sense. Garabandal didnt reveal everything that would happen, it was just an outline, it didnt mention the three days of darkness which will happen. glenn knows a lot but he doesnt know everything that will happen.
     
  16. Glenn

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    I made my point with FACTS & QUOTES ! (something you failed to do). The Chastisement happens after the Miracle, its idiodic to think the world is enveloped in fire ,and a large portion DESTROYED , BEFORE the Miracle ! You offered NOTHING but a ridiculous opinion (which no one believes) and there isn't ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE to offer to back up your opinion. Any reasonalbly intelligent person reading my research can plainly see the two events are the same. So if you cant offer some factual eveidence DONT post your misleading opinion anymore, we've heard it too many times already. Im tired of seeing this nonfactual nonsense. HERE THE FACTS :

    The “Chastisement “& 3 Days of Darkness


    Many people as me to compare the prophecy of the "Three Days of Darkness"attributed to the late mystic, Blessed Anna Maria Taigi, (and some other seers) and the “CHASTISEMENT” mentioned at Garabandal. (The term "3 days" was NEVER used in Garabandal.)
    We have only one descriptive statement from Conchita as to one aspect of the event, and one from Mai Loli, whereas Blessed Anna's is more detailed and descriptive. They do same one common theme of “ FIRE”. Here is Conchita's statement on what the Blessed Mother allowed her to say about the "Chastisement" :

    In his book THE APPARITIONS OF GARABANDAL, Francisco Sanchez-Venture y Pascual includes the following note written by Conchita about the Chastisement:
    “The Chastisement is conditional and depends on whether or not mankind heeds the messages of the Blessed Virgin and the Miracle. If it should take place, I know what it will consist of because the Blessed Virgin told me about it, but I am not permitted to say what it is. Moreover, I have seen the Chastisement. I can assure you that if it comes, it will be worse than being enveloped in fire, worse than having fire above and beneath you. I do not know how much time will elapse between the Miracle and the Chastisement.”
    On the feast of the Holy Rosary, October 7, 1962, Maria Herrero de Gallardo was in Garabandal and took the occasion to question Mari Loli about the visions of June 19-20, 1962 (the Nights of the Screams), and what she and the other visionaries could possibly have seen to cause them to cry out in such a terrifying manner. Sefiora Herrero reported:
    "Oh!" exclaimed the girl. "That was horrible to see. We were really frightened, and I know no words that could explain it. We saw rivers change into blood.... Fire fell from the sky.... And something much worse still, which I'm not able to reveal now."
    From : (SHE WENT IN HASTE TO THE MOUNTAIN)

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    The Chastisement from other Seers:
    Prophecy of Blessed Anna Maria Taigi
    "The wind will howl and roar. Lightning and thunderbolts of an unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth. The whole earth will shake, heavenly bodies will be disturbed (this will be the beginning of the Three Days). Every Demon, every evil spirit will be released from hell and allowed to roam the earth. Terrifying apparitions will take place. Many will die from sheer fright. Fire will rain forth from the sky, all large cities will be destroyed, poisonous gases will fill the air, cries and lamentations everywhere. The unbelievers will burn in the open like withered grass. The entire earth will be afflicted; it will look like a huge graveyard.
    "After the three days of darkness, St. Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity, then, will spread throughout the world. He is the Holy Pontiff, chosen by God to withstand the storm. At the end, he will have the gift of miracles, and his name shall be praised over the whole earth. Whole nations will come back to the Church and the face of the earth will be renewed. Russia, England, and China will come into the Church." (Prophecy of Blessed Anna Maria Taigi [1769-1837 A.D.] who was Beatified by Bendedict XV in 1920.)
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    Message from Akita: October 13, 1973
    "My dear daughter, listen well to what I have to say to you. You will inform your superior."After a short silence:
    "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests."
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    BLESSED SR. ELENA AIELLO “Once there was the chastisement by water, but if there is not a returning to God, there will come the chastisement by fire, which will cover the streets of the world with blood.”The 3 days of darkness scriptural details in different places throughout the bible.
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    Conchita & Humility

    For a time, when she was younger, while she was living in Fatima many years ago, she went daily to an older priest’s residence to volunteer as a cleaning lady. As on other occasions, she went there using the name of Maria, in order not to be recognized. However, one day someone recognized her and immediately all the resident priests knew that the woman who swept the floors of their residence was Conchita of Garabandal. From then on, nothing was the same. Conchita told me that when the priests discovered who she was, they changed the way they treated her. She said she was sorry that they had found out who she was because she felt better serving those elderly priests anonymously.

    Reminds me very much of Saint Bernadette.

    "The Blessed Virgin used me like a broom. What do you do with a broom when you have finished sweeping? You put it back in its place, behind the door!"
     
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    Humility
    "What God loves above all is humility. What displeases Him above all is pride."


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    [From a letter to Fr. Luis Retenaga, dated 13 October 1963. Reprinted in She Went in Haste to the Mountain, p. 479 (Eusebio Pesquera, trans. by B. Miller; pub. by Our Lady of Mount Carmel de Garabandal, Inc., 2000)]
     
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    Love this! Yes, just like Bernadette. Thank you for sharing this, Glenn. :)
     
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