There is no blow to the hope of the faithful w/Joseph Lomangino's death.

Oddly, "Daughter of Lourdes," also uses the abbreviation, "RCC," in her posts, about the Catholic Church. She, also, has similar "unconventional" views on faith...

 

Well I am not her but thanks for not, I guess calling me names . I use the abbreviation because it is faster than always typing out Roman Catholic Church. I am not asking any Catholic to leave their denomination. And I choose traditional Catholic mass to commune and also celebrate the receiving of the Eucharist in my own home .

I will be forth coming. I am testing some theories . I am in a process of writing a book and it is just about complete. See, my book is for all denominations , I am making all one through the grace of God. That is the Rite of the Shulammite you would not understand but is is revealed in the Song of Solomon. I am bringing others on the fringes into the house. I have actually brought many Protestants into their fullness. However ,uncoventional it all may seem I am a fool for the faith and souls.

I was simply showing that words like Prima Scriptura can be upheld in essence in the foundation. And even Sola Scriptura can be upheld by the foundation. But I notice when you approach theses sects with their very own words, and uphold a truth from the Catholic church or Orthodox , they are shown to not actually believe their own anthems. For clearly ,the scriptures first and foremost are well.....are the first doctrine for us to develop other doctrines or to test if a person is actually receiving revelations from God. nothing can contradict , God is one so is His written word and the Holy Spirit . The holy spirit does not contradict the gospels when giving personal revelations. God is not the author of chaos .

See if you can get where I am coming from. I am only testing as I said. If I show , with those very anthems truths that they have rejected for centuries, are to be embraced , they must, or simply be done. As the scriptures say, Matthew 15:7Tradition and Worship
…7You hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you: 8‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”…
So if they insist on sola scriptura but then, reject a truth proven with the scriptures alone, their heart is revealed. If they say Prima Scriptura and a truth is found to stand according to the first doctrine given to us by the Jew , then if they reject it, they are shown to be hypocrites according to their own battle cries.

Protestants demand all be supported by the written word. My point is, all true doctrines can be. My point with Catholics is, they get hung up on how Protestants interpret well, definitions that if you actually think about it, is upheld by the Roman Catholic church in different words ,but all mean the same thing. I do not believe any historical "doctrinal father " of the faith could argue , NO scripture is not first before all other doctrines. Of course they wouldn't . Is there something else before it which teaches about the one true God? Nor would they say -NO the written word of God does not need to be upheld and can be contradicted.

My point is, there are many ways to say the same thing. It is the doctrines that Protestants protest against that I show to be true with their own anthems. Did that make sense to you? Well I won't burden you all any further. No hard feeling on my part and I hope none for you as well.
Shalom, Shulam!

 

I’m sure you mean well, and in the past I myself have engaged in quite lengthy and at times contentious dialog defending the Catholic Faith, but this is not the forum to engage in this kind and level of apologetics.

I’d suggest Catholic Answers or other large Catholic apologetics sites to continue your debate.

This just isn’t the place to engage with the subjects you want to discuss.

It’s a Catholic forum for Catholic discussions of the faith, prayer, and prophecy as it relates to the Catholic Faith and the times in which we live.

We’re not here for you to “educate” or “evangelize” or “save” us, or, most likely and despite your protestations to the contrary, considering your posting history, belittle us.

Take it elsewhere. It’s too late in the game to waste our time and bandwidth on your pet peeves and book theories.

 

As I’ve said elsewhere recently on this forum, beware and avoid those actively engaging in diabolical disorientation and selective denial. It’s too late in the game to engage this elementary level of Catholic apologetics.

Don’t feed the trolls. If you see that kind of post, PM myself or one of the other moderators or file a Report on that post(s).

This particular post of mine was in regards to some far worse posts and is not directed at the non Catholic posts here, but the same principles apply:

Diabolical disorientation.

Selective denial.

The enemy makes ridiculous unsubstantiated statements that take up many valuable hours for you to unpack and refute. As soon as you’ve done so, these demonic puppets just fling more diabolical disorientation at you.

The devils know exactly what they’re doing in driving lost souls into such inane efforts at selective denial.

It completely wastes your valuable time when it would be better spent doing God’s Will elsewhere.

Please don’t feed these pour souls. It just multiplies the effectiveness of their diabolical disorientation and selective denial - it denies God of His proper time and place in your life.​

 

Thank you Brian I was just getting ready to post the St. Michael prayer and warn members to not engage. While catching up on this site every hair rose in warning not to feed the troll.

 

Perhaps...Don't feed the troll.

But when new members post things that are contrary to Catholic teaching and some members are not well versed in identifying the error...It is important that the errors be pointed out or others may be led into error.

That is why I didn't address all her questions but rather pointed out one that contradicts the faith and then ask if she accepted the authority of the church


The first 3 spiritual acts of mercy:

• To instruct the ignorant. This work of mercy means all of us are called to share and teach the faith passed on to us. ...
• To counsel the doubtful. ...
• To admonish the sinner. ...

 

I did online Catholic apologetics pretty intensely for about ten years. I had my fair share of converts at it too - converts from anti-Catholic to simply non- Catholic, and from non-Catholic to Catholic.

I learned to identify fairly quickly if a poster was really seeking the Truth, or simply wanted to fight or “convert” or “save” you.

One of the biggest signs was a lack of humility in an adversary’s posting habits, something we may just be able to discern with this current poster.

I’m just going to remove all their posts from this point forward from public view until @padraig decides whether to show them the door.

 

Your claim that Scripture is first, Shulammite, is contrived, I believe. Acts 15 is a perfect example of this. The Council of Jerusalem took place about the year 49 AD. The Church in the midst of a lively debate had to make a choice. But the decision was also of God. Notice what is claimed in verse 28:

28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things...

Luke wrote his Gospel about 15 years after the Church made the mind-boggling decision, in union with the Holy Spirit, to officially settle a point that threatened to split the assembly. This is a clear example of Sacred Tradition preceding the Scripture that speaks of it. Yes, James, the brother of the Lord, brought up verses from Amos, Jeremiah, and Isaiah to support his opinion, but Peter exhorted the Council to remember God's sovereign choice to pour out upon the members of the house of Cornelius the Holy Spirit prior to baptism. It was a little messy, but in the end it was the Jerusalem Council which made an irrevocable decision.

The sad reality is that subsequently the Church for the main part, became Gentile.

Also, your above claim is confusing at best:

Prima scriptura is the Christian doctrine that (canonized scripture) is "first" or "above all" other sources of divine revelation.

Why? Because the canon wasn't finalized until the 4th century. Decisions such as the Divinity of Jesus were hammered out in other councils prior to the closing of the Canon of Scripture which itself was discerned by the Church.

Your need to claim the primacy of Scripture is weak, diversionary, confusing, and unnecessary.

Safe in the Barque of Peter!

 

Thank you, Brian.

Safe in the Barque of Peter!

 

You show all the hallmarks of a person who is not taking in a nutritious diet. I would suspect if you add a dessertspoon of cod liver oil to your daily diet, you will feel enormous benefits to your whole life. In your thinking process as well. God bless and take care of you. Jesus died for you too.

 

LOL

 

A touch of humorous, loving concern in the midst of debate!

O Mary conceived without sin, pray for Shulammite who has recourse to thee!

 

Sounds like you are a syncretist.

 

Me too MC. Immediately.