Why the Miracle of Garabandal is not till Apr. 2024 at earliest...

Yes, I can confirm picture of 13 April with name of S. Hermenegildo was taken from Spanish calendar from April 1961. You can find more complete picture of that calendar in pdf file enclosed.

In addition, I own a small Spanish calendar from year 1960, where again there is S. Hermenegildo mentioned with 13 April (I put SanDisk next to it just to see proportions).

Of course, we do not know at what specific calendar was Conchita looking in her house, but if anobody finds another name of a martyr from the calendar below that might suit better the expected miracle in Garabandal, please let us know.

 

Sorry to inform you that the "Calendar" story took place in Sept. of 1963, not 1961.
We have no idea how old he was, though he was a grown, married man leading a revolt, so it would not have been clear to her that this was "a young martyr of the Eucharist" and also he does not fit the description Conchita gave after she consulted the calendar in her home.

 

Very interesting. Thank you.

S. Hermenegild was also a "young martyr" as he was about 21 when he died.

Besides, Hermenegildo would definitely be "un nombre raro" (a rare/unusual name) especially to a little girl completely unexposed to life outside her little village in the mountains.

But is he the martyr?

Ah that remains to be seen. God could surprise us in so many ways!

 

We do know how old he was.

Born ca. 564 in Tarragona, died April 13, 585.

So he was about 21.

Saint Hermenegild or Ermengild, was the son of king Liuvigild of the Visigothic Kingdom in the Iberian Peninsula and southern France. He fell out with his father in 579, then revolted the following year. During his rebellion, he converted from Arianism to Chalcedonian Christianity. Wikipedia
Born: 564 AD, Toledo, Spain
Died: April 13, 585 AD, Seville, Spain
Nationality: Spanish
Spouse: Ingund (m. 579 AD)
Parents: Liuvigild, Theodosia
Siblings: Reccared I

 

the warning is in 2038; at least that is the date when the entire world will go "woe" according to st. bridget; I don't know what else would make the whole world go "awe" other than to see the cross in the sky with the only light shown onto the earth coming from the 5 wounds of Jesus; that would certainly make most people go "woe"; please search the prophecies of St. Bridget; elsewhere on the website; the full prophecy and determination of the
earliest date being in 2038 was spelled out in great detail in at least 3 different postings;

 

And what if that were to be the Chastisement or 3 Days of Darkness?

 

You are assuming that prophecy is an exact science. It is not.

 

I would advise everyone to hop over to Glenn's thread on Garabandal. It is the best on the internet regarding Garabandal and has verifiable info.

 

I guess no one is reading my post above.#1, he is most likely Spanish so he be disqualified for that #2. He was married,( it doesnt imply "young". #3 NO ONE here is remembering what Conchita said ,which COMPLETELY disqaulifies him:

On a day in September of 1963, some French people were invited to eat dinner with Conchita in a house near the girl's home. She was devouring pastries with the healthy appetite of girls of her age. Someone jokingly asked her about the sacrifices and penance mentioned in the message. Conchita accepted the joke in good humor and laughed. But suddenly she became quiet and seemed to concentrate; her face lit up; and with her hands joined on her chest, she began to speak:
“The Miracle will be on the feastday of a young martyr of the Eucharist, a boy who carried Communion to persecuted Christians. “His companions, on seeing him pass by, wanted to force him to stay and take part in their games. Infuriated by his resistance, they ended up hurling stones at him until he was left almost dead. Later a Christian soldier came, who recognized him and carried him in his arms.
One of those present exclaimed: Oh, that's St. Tarcisius!»
Conchita, without saying a word, as if she hadn't heard, turned back to her pastries.
After dinner ended and Conchita had left, those at the table exchanged their impressions. The oldest in the group concluded: It seems that Conchita saw this scene in an ecstasy, but without understanding what martyr it was. I don't think she even knows his name.

“ She Went in Haste to the Mountain Book 3,Chapter 7

 

Has Conchita herself ever confirmed all of these details that people are using as clues to the date? There are only so many young male martyrs of the Eucharist and the feast days shouldn’t be that different from year to year. Some of the information that is out there seems contradictory and I would be interested to know what details/clues are from Conchita herself and what came from others.

 

Did I not provide her exact quote and book source ?

 

The only problem with Saint Tarcisius is his feast day. Which seems to be either the 14th or 15th of August. How can we move his feast day from August to either March, April or May?

 

Good point.

And as a matter of fact his feast day would have to be moved specifically to April.

Garabandal scholars have narrowed the month of the miracle down to April (long story but Glenn can confirm this).

 

We are in luck! This April 15th is a Thursday!

Otherwise, we might have to wait till April 15th 2027

 

I thought of a possibility that seems absurd but some pope could introduce a feast in the Church to celebrate martyrs specifically (emphasis on the Eucharist), so Saint Tarcisius and other martyrs could be celebrated specifically on the same day
Perhaps that would be on the exact date of the martyrdom of Saint Tarcisius which is unknown, and it would be a symbolism of the persecution that was predicted for the priests

 

Actually his feast day has been moved once already, it was April 26, now its August 15th.

 

Not in 2027, W & M in an even year.

 

I was speaking generally. I see different parameters posted occasionally and I’ve seen people say one thing and you correct or clarify. I’ve also read things along the lines of “Conchita told this reputable person this” but there is no way to confirm Conchita actually said that or that it was passed on correctly. Did Conchita herself verify the information about her in “She Went in Haste to the Mountain”?

There’s a lot of misinformation or misunderstanding online and I’m just trying to separate right info from wrong.

 

I fully agree with you! I was never certain of where the even year comes from. I know that Mari loli said it to a priest, but I don't know who the priest was if there were any witnesses, or even if it was recorded or documented properly.

So Glenn, do you think they will move St Tarcisius's feast day again?

 

was Pope Paul VI the last to change the date of celebration of some saints?