Why the Miracle of Garabandal is not till Apr. 2024 at earliest...

Saint Hermenegild was a Visigoth Spanish King. Also, his name is not that hard to pronounce as, I believe, Conchita said it was.

 

does anyone remember hearing a quote from one of the garanbadal seers that the warning would take place three weeks or three months before the miracle? I remember hearing this but I don't remember the source, and who said that phrase.

 

Go over to Glenn’s thread and ask him. He would know.

 

A bit off topic for this thread I know but I read about monarchies and the houses of many of these families quite often and one thing that is abundant is that so many of them who professed to be followers of Christ killed their own family members for even very basic slights and suspicions. From Kings to sons to wives they all seem to have gotten into the action of defying the most basic of commandments almost as if they were members of another religion.

 

Here, hopefully, is some clarification on the date of the Warning/Miracle I have gathered over the years:

"Conchita searched personally to find a liturgical clue about the future day of the Miracle. She gave some significant hints to individuals and the following one should be revealed. After reading a liturgical calendar for 1963, she read the corresponding date of the day of the Miracle (except for the year which she already knew it would happen), the name and some concise note of a saint martyr of the Eucharist. She would eventually say that he was not Spanish, was 22 years old when martyred, and that his Feastday was not celebrated in 1963, because it then occurred during Holy Week."

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Mari Loli “Warning on EVEN year”

Warning in EVEN year – “Suddenly & Unexpectedly” by T. Michael Fahy in 2012 (ISBN-10 1479110175) (pg. 93).

“We know that the Warning must precede the Miracle. I happen to know, as per Maria, that Mari Loli had at one point been questioned by a priest who was trying to extract the year of the Warning from her. She would not tell him. Finally, he asked if she could at least tell him if it was an even or odd year. She relented and told him that it would be an even year.”

I (Glenn) researched this many years ago, and found out that the priest in question was Father Gustavo Morelos.

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TODAY ON GARABANDAL HISTORY July 27, 1975
MARY LOLI ON THE “WARNING “ IN SAME YEAR
Q. You have said that you know the year of the Warning. Can you tell us if it will occur in the next few years or is it still in the distant future?
A. No. I can’t say anything.
Q. Did the Blessed Mother tell you not to speak about the Warning?
A. No, she didn’t , but, because the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year, I feel it inside not to say anything.
Q. How do you know the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year”
A. During an apparition-I don’t remember just when- the Blessed Virgin told me.
Reprinted with kind permission from GARABANDAL International October-December 2004

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From the book "Garabandal: Finger of God"

Nobody is able to hinder the happening of this announcement or warning before the punishment. That it will happen is very sure, although I do not know the day nor the hour.

Conchita also remarked that the ‘separation of minds’ will happen. In addition she said in 1998, that she herself is afraid of the warning. At the same time she also said, that she will not live to see the punishment. However she cannot say for sure if her children will witness it.

At that time Conchita was 49 years old.

(Translated from German into English by a person who is fluent in German, June 17, 2018)

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Interview with Conchita. Bishop Garmendia (1981-08-27)

Bishop: So the Bishop will receive a sign and he will know that Garabandal is true. This is clear now. You know, Conchita, that we are attracted to Garabandal because we love the Virgin. We know she utilizes humble people and means like at Lourdes and Fatima and other apparitions. It has been said that the Virgin told you the Miracle will be on a Thursday. Is this true?
Conchita: Yes. The Virgin said it will be on a Thursday, and she also gave the day, month and year.

Bishop: Are you sure? Did you check it on the calendar?
Conchita: No, I didn't have to, because she told me the Thursday, the day, month and year.

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Conchita's mother died at the age of 81. I would suspect that Conchita passes on around that same age. 2030 is a reasonable guess.

With what has happened over the last year (covid, economic dislocation, riots, political chaos) I do believe that the Warnin/Miracle is before 2030.

 

April 13, 2023 is St Herminigild’s feast day. And it lands on a Thursday for the prophesy of the miracle. The Warning may arrive within the year of the miracle. So the year 2022, may just be time of the Warning. It’s a thought.

 

Within the year means "the current calendar year*. Within a year definitely means withinthe next 12 month period.

 

1984 interview with Mari Loli and it’s clear she said within the year, not within the same year.

 

Also in this video, in the first few minutes of the video

 

I truly appreciate all of the analysis everyone on this forum has devoted to the Warning. My thoughts have always been if Conchita is going to announce the Miracle 8 days before, don't you think the Warning would be within those 8 days? What would be the point of announcing the Miracle once we have the Warning, the cat's out of the bag and we know it's a matter of 12 month for the Miracle. It would make more sense to announce the Warning IMHO, that way we could get to confession within the week. But if she announces the Miracle and the warning has not occurred we would still have time to get to confession, because God is so good and merciful. Sorry if this post is confusing

God Bless!

 

GARABANDAL INFO & ANSWERS

Glenn, Dec 30, 2020

I am of the personal opinion that the Warning will be within the first three months of the year, knowing that the Miracle is in April, and as Mary Loli said they would happen in the "same year". I further felt convinced after speaking with the late noted Author Thomas Fahy. Here is our correspondence on the subject of " 3 weeks or 3 months".

Miracle after the Warning , 3 weeks or 3 months?

Dear Glenn,
In the late 1980´s or early 1990´s, two Priests, whom I knew personally at that time, visited Mari Loli in Massachusetts. On their return one of the Priests told me that Mari Loli disclosed to them, when they were leaving, that the Warning would be in an even-numbered year.
Several years later I asked the same Priest if Mari Loli said even numbered year. He said, "Yes". I have also read about or heard the same from other sources, which I do not recall now.
In another situation, I was told by a man in Massachussets, who knows the Pastor of the Church that Mari Loli attended, that Mari Loli was speaking to her Pastor in Massachusetts one day, after he came to know about her relation with Garabandal, and told him that she could not remember
whether the Blessed Virgin told her that it was 3 weeks or 3 months that the Warning would precede the Miracle. That would confirm that the Warning and Miracle are in the same year, as she said in her July 27, 1975 publicized interview. I take the same year to be the same calendar year.
Fiat,
Thomas Fahy

3-20-15

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With the above information of 3 weeks or 3 months between the Warning and the Miracle and the Miracle being in April, the same year means: In The Same Calendar Year.

 

From the Breton Stigmatist Marie-Julie Jehenney:

15 June 1882—Jesus: .I forewarn you that a day will be found and it is already appointed when there will be little sun, few stars, and no light to take a step outside of your homes, the refuges of My people.

The days will be beginning to increase. It will not be at the height of summer nor during the longer days of the year (summer time), but when the days are still short (winter time). It will not be at the end of the year, but during the first months (of the year) that I shall give My clear warnings.

That day of darkness and lightning will be the first that I shall send to convert the impious, and to see if a great number will return to Me, before the Great Storm (i.e. Chastisement) which will closely follow.

 

1984 is a lot closer than 1975. And actually watching a video in 1984, where Mari Loli actually says it’s within the year, and not the same year - it trumps hearing something else by two priests back in 1975.

 

Remember what Conchita said: When communism returns...the communists and socialists in Spain are beginning their attacks, again. Not since the Spanish Civil war, where the Marxists took over the Republic and declared Catholicism anathema, and among other things removed crucifixes from schools and public places, now it's happening again.

Spanish lawyers act to prevent removal of crosses by officials - UCA News

Spanish lawyers act to prevent removal of crosses by officials
Christian symbols are linked to the country's former dictatorship

A group of Spanish lawyers has launched petitions and lawsuits to prevent the removal of crosses by local officials after claims that Christian symbols are linked to the country's former dictatorship.

"Many towns are being pressured to get rid of public crosses, which local people have spent weeks and months defending," said Maria Riesco, spokeswoman for the Association of Christian Lawyers.

"We are checking the documentation and investigating each case, as well as maintaining a dialogue with regional governments in hopes of having them restored."

Riesco, a Catholic, spoke as the Valladolid-based association announced legal proceedings against the mayor of Aguilar de la Frontera, near Cordoba, for ordering the demolition of a cross outside the town's Carmelite convent.

In a Feb. 12 interview with Catholic News Service, she said the 20-foot concrete cross had been taken down illegally amid Catholic protests, in violation of religious freedom.

The press office of the Spanish bishops' conference told CNS Feb. 12 the Association of Christian Lawyers was acting independently of the church. It said the conference would not comment on the removal of public crosses.

Meanwhile, Polonia Castellanos, lawyers association president, said action was also underway to protect crosses in Spain's western Extremadura region, after at least 34 municipalities were ordered to remove them from streets and parks.

"The decision to demolish these monuments is purely ideological; if carried out, it would cause irreparable damage," Castellanos said in a website statement, which noted at least 25,000 Spaniards had signed a protest petition. "Every time a cross is knocked down, we will bring the person responsible to justice."

The cross in Aguilar de la Frontera, installed in 1938, was trucked to a landfill Jan. 19, after the mayor, Carmen Flores, argued it violated Spain's 2007 Law on Historical Memory, which prohibits symbols deemed to praise the 1939-75 rule of General Francisco Franco.

Catholic protesters, who chanted "Viva Cristo Rey" ("Long live Christ the King") during the action, placed flowers and wooden crosses at the site outside the convent's main door. City council contractors later removed the flowers and crosses.

In a Jan. 17 homily, Bishop Demetrio Fernández González of Cordoba warned officials Christians would take note of their actions at election time.

Meanwhile, the town's parish priest, Father Pablo Lora Blasco, told parishioners in a Jan. 20 Facebook message the cross had been stripped of any political connotations in the 1980s, adding that he had tried unsuccessfully to explain its importance.

"A whole generation has grown up around the cross as a sign of love and commitment, forgiveness and mercy -- I deeply regret the next generations will be deprived of this," the priest said.

"I also express the pain of the Carmelite sisters and our parish community, who could have found another private site for the cross, so as to extol its deep meaning for Christians."

Spain's Law on Historical Memory is expected to be replaced this year by a 16-article Law on Democratic Memory, which will promote awareness of the country's democratic history and push forward the exhumation of mass graves from the 1936-1939 Spanish Civil War.

The law also will facilitate sentence annulments and reparations for victims of repression, as well as for members of ethnic minorities and LGBT groups who suffered under Franco's dictatorship.

Riesco told CNS that the Association of Christian Lawyers was particularly concerned about regulations at local and regional levels, which often were "much harsher" toward Christian symbols than national laws.

"Some state that any cross in a public place, whatever its inscription, exalts Franco's regime and must be taken down," she said.

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There it is, Spain was a Catholic country for many centuries before the Spanish Civil war, but these people are erasing history, this is how they do it.

 

Where did this quote come from ? "Conchita searched personally to find a liturgical clue about the future day of the Miracle. She gave some significant hints to individuals and the following one should be revealed. After reading a liturgical calendar for 1963, she read the corresponding date of the day of the Miracle (except for the year which she already knew it would happen), the name and some concise note of a saint martyr of the Eucharist. She would eventually say that he was not Spanish, was 22 years old when martyred, and that his Feastday was not celebrated in 1963, because it then occurred during Holy Week."

Sounds more like a blog comment than what Conchita actually said.

 

Would you call William the Conquerer English? No, he was Norman, and Norman generations after William were still not considered English. The same in Spain with the Visigoths. They were not considered Spaniards.

 

...I find it all confusing. We're not supposed to speculate, and yet so much info comes to us in the form of clues. All I know is, apparently, since this is not an even year, nothing will happen this April. I'm sure there are others here and elsewhere who, for our own reasons, feel a sense of desperation for the Lord to come. And so this not being an even year adds to the gloomy outlook.
I'm reading the book The Warning, and though I never put myself in the category of horrible person, I often feel, based on what I read in the book and have seen others write, that I'm basically doomed. It seems, at least to me, that unless you are 98% perfect in thought and deed for 98% of your life, you're on the road to hell. At least that's my take on the message of the book, and it's quite frightening.
Back to the subject at hand, I hope the warning comes sooner, rather than later.

 

Doomed are those who follow Satan. Don’t worry so much, embrace God’s grace by praying the Rosary. It will bring you peace. Honor her and call her Blessed.

 

Jesus did not suffer his Passion to lose souls.

“**Conversations with the Merciful God: Conversation with a Despairing Soul**” from St. Faustina’s Diary:

**Jesus: O soul steeped in darkness, do not despair. All is not yet lost. Come and confide in your God, who is love and mercy.

-But the soul, deaf even to this appeal, wraps itself in darkness.

Jesus calls out again: My child, listen to the voice of your merciful Father.

– In the soul arises this reply: “For me there is no mercy,” and it falls into greater darkness, a despair which is a foretaste of hell and makes it unable to draw near to God.

Jesus calls to the soul a third time, but the soul remains deaf and blind, hardened and despairing. Then the mercy of God begins to exert itself, and, without any co-operation from the soul, God grants it final grace. If this too is spurned, God will leave the soul in this self-imposed disposition for eternity. This grace emerges from the merciful Heart of Jesus and gives the soul a special light by means of which the soul begins to understand God’s effort; but conversion depends on its own will. The soul knows that this, for her, is final grace and, should it show even a flicker of good will, the mercy of God will accomplish the rest.

Jesus: My omnipotent mercy is active here. Happy the soul that takes advantage of this grace.

Jesus: What joy fills My Heart when you return to Me. Because you are weak, I take you in My arms and carry you to the home of My Father.

Soul (as if awaking, asks fearfully): Is it possible that there yet is mercy for me?

Jesus: There is, My child. You have a special claim on My mercy. Let it act in your poor soul; let the rays of grace enter your soul; they bring with them light, warmth, and life.

Soul: But fear fills me at the thought of my sins, and this terrible fear moves me to doubt Your goodness.

Jesus: My child, all your sins have not wounded My Heart as painfully as your present lack of trust does – that after so many efforts of My love and mercy, you should still doubt My goodness.

Soul: O Lord, save me yourself, for I perish. Be my Saviour. O Lord, I am unable to say anything more; my pitiful heart is torn asunder; but You, O Lord… Jesus does not let the soul finish but, raising it from the ground, from the depths of its misery, he leads it into the recesses of His Heart where all its sins disappear instantly, consumed by the flames of love.

Jesus: Here, soul, are all the treasures of My Heart. Take everything you need from it.

Soul: O Lord, I am inundated with Your grace. I sense that a new life has entered into me and, above all, I feel Your love in my heart. That is enough for me. O Lord, I will glorify the omnipotence of Your mercy for all eternity. Encouraged by Your goodness, I will confide to You all the sorrows of my heart.

Jesus: Tell me all, My child, hide nothing from Me, because My loving Heart, the Heart of your Best Friend, is listening to you.

Soul: O Lord, now I see all my ingratitude and Your goodness. You were pursuing me with Your grace, while I was frustrating Your benevolence. I see that I deserve the depths of hell for spurning Your graces.

Jesus (interrupting): Do not be absorbed in your misery-you are still too weak to speak of it-but, rather, gaze on My Heart filled with goodness, and be imbued with My sentiments. Strive for meekness and humility; be merciful to others, as I am to you; and, when you feel your strength failing, if you come to the fountain of mercy to fortify your soul, you will not grow weary on your journey.**

“As long as a soul has confidence, her return is easy; but if the demon succeeds in closing the heart with distrust, O how I have to struggle to reconquer it!” – Jesus to Sr. Benigna Consolata Ferrero (Let God’s mercy conquer your heart! Don’t live by feelings! Trust is an act of the will!)